The China Syndrome
 

It will be a long time, if ever, that our Congress doe anything useful to punish China for unleashing this Virus on us and the world. What Congress should to do, along with the Food & Drug Administration is mandate that ALL products (ie:clothing, food, prescriptions, et all) are labeled with a large easy to find word or symbol that gives us the ability to choose what we purchase intelligently and immediately. Most often when products are ordered online there is no way to determine where the product is made and in many cases that it will ship from "the slow boat from China". My wife and I have been attempting to find the origin of products, not often easy or even possible, when purchasing in store or online. It is time for a serious American grass roots effort to put Communist China on the back burner. I know it is far cheaper to purchase most comparable Chinese to American made products, so for those who cannot afford to buy American made that is understandable and should be their choice. For myself I am on a new mission to buy NON CHINEESE PRODUCTS and I hope that our regulators will make our freedom to choose, by easier and mandated "where products are manufactured" identification. That also includes products assembled here, but consist of Chinese components. "We the People can get this done!!"

If that would help I would be all for it. But first someone has to prove to me that it was a deliberate act rather than a natural occurrence.

Yes, but, have you noticed some people thought they had this virus in various areas of the US in October? That has to be looked at carefully once this virus is under control. Easy enough, I would think, to figure out if these people actually had Covid with antibodies test.

Put a super large tariff on every item imported to the US from China. This way we punish China by putting a severe hurt on their economy. The second benefit is China via the tariff money windfall they give us will pay back the trillions our government had to invest in stimulus to keep our economy from collapse. The third benefit will be a huge step gained for us towards self sufficiency. That is how it works I've been told.

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This makes it appear that only China and U.S. have been affected by this virus. The only area I see NOT affected by death and devastation due to Covid-19 are in the lower hemisphere and I keep wondering why? Plus again. No one has any proof that Chinese people had anything to do with starting this virus in labs. They didn't report it at first, I believe. Sometimes countries have sort of a poofed up idea of their need to keep things looking good. Cultural. For instance, North Korea seems to be denying that Yung is not terribly sick. I suspect he is.

If you would like a legal standard of "proof," maybe you should sue the Chinese Communist Party in a court of law and find out if they really did it?

No. My common sense is making me think that it is preposterous to think a country would launch a pandemic that harmed it's own people.

I have never sued anyone in my life, nor been sued.

Agree with the gist of your post and thank you for it. "We the people" indeed, and now more than ever.

We are also taking a closer look at the products we buy and attempting to do likewise. As you note, it’s very difficult to do for a number of reasons.

In the meantime, you may find this interview helpful in terms of better understanding the core nature of the CCP. The guy being interviewed is a Chinese billionaire who now has political asylum in the US, and a self-avowed enemy of the CCP. Most Americans have no idea because it's never been a focus before and thus most have never studied this much. Thankfully, that's now changing.

Keep in mind this was taped before the Wuhan virus pandemic. The guy’s real name is Guo Wengui, but he has also used the alias Miles Kwok. (that gets a bit confusing which is why I clarify it here.)

See what you think …

🔴 Exiled Chinese Billionaire's Accusations of China (w/ Guo Wengui & Kyle Bass) | RV Classics - YouTube

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The first death in the United States from the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) was a Washington state man in his 50s who had underlying health conditions, state health officials announced on Feb 29.
So with that said, you mean to say that only one (1) person died from the Coronavirus in 4 months here in the United States?

Gracie, respectfully, you are uninformed. As has been reported in US media, US intelligence agencies are 100% CERTAIN this virus originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. What has not been publicly disclosed (yet) is if it has been definitively determined that its release was accidental or intentional.

This video concisely lays out the case for the lab-manipulated aspect to the virus. It is approximately 1 hr long. Watch just 10 minutes and you'll begin to understand. "Covid-19" is the WHO assigned "politically correct" name for this virus, which originated in Wuhan, China.




The first documentary movie on CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus - YouTube

Respectfully, your “common sense” is more accurately described as ethnocentrism.

All of us, having been lucky enough to be born and raised in the American Judeo-Christian culture, tend to believe in the Golden Rule, or at least we lean in that direction.

Thus, when something horrific like this occurs, it’s understandable the tendency is to say “we would never do something like that, therefore neither would the CCP.”

As I've said in other posts, the notion of a deliberate release has not yet been proven, but neither should it be ruled out at this early point. But, I think you can safely assume the CCP as a matter of course will lie as needed to cover their you know what.

People understand that it's not very smart to have most of our supply chain, especially for key items such as medical supplies, located in a foreign country run by a communist dictatorship.

The key point to grasp is no one is talking about the Chinese people .... but rather the CCP.

If you've EVER purchased ANYTHING made in a foreign country because it was less expensive, to find the culprit of the situation you describe you only need to do one thing...go look in the mirror. :oops:

POTUS has told us that China has been very transparent. Don’t blame them for an act of God!

I agree with your post. But, you can buy almost everything on Amazon.com. And, you can search their website by typing in "made in USA". However, I don't think that you will be able to live a very good life by buying only the products that appear on that search. Almost everything has components made in China or some other foreign country. I think the U.S. consumers have been conditioned to always seek out the least expensive products. That seems to be the message contained in most advertising. Asking consumers to pay more for a product because it is made in the USA would be a culture change of monumental proportions. Just my opinion.

IMO What it does is somewhat even the playing field for other sources that don’t have near slave labor and NO worries of government environmental protection. IMO China has the most polluted cities in the world.

And you know this for sure? Right——- I see you point of view.

Yeah, yeah, but you're either missing the point or simply failing to address what the poster was getting at :ohdear:

I wouldn't be surprised if a repressive totalitarian regime such as the CCP found it acceptable to "sacrifice" a few thousand of their citizens in order to achieve a bigger goal.

Not convinced though that this is biological warfare.

Let's try to leave politics out of it for a change ... I know it's tempting.

Just put Hugh important tax on companies/ CEOs that sold out to China for near slave labor. Add Mexico to list also.

I'll bite. Can you please supply me with a link to a statement that supports your "100% certain" claim. I think you are confusing your certainty with the US intelligence agencies. Those same agencies that of course had uniform conclusions about recent events and were derided with the term "deep state" to imply they had a political agenda rather than fact seeking. So, please, those links to support your statement.

us intelligence agencies origin of covid wuhan lab - Google Search

Wow, the pro-administration OAN network has told its viewers that the virus was made in North Carolina with the help of Dr. Fauci and exported to China to hurt the administration. I do wish all the conspiracy theorists would come to some agreement.

It's easy to understand. The costs are always passed on to the consumer. But that's the real goal. To make Chinese products more expensive for the consumer so they'll try to source their products elsewhere.

To say China pays nothing is not really true. They will pay in lost sales if people can find their products from someone else cheaper. Whether we can actually find our products elsewhere is the catch right now. But even if the manufacturing doesn't come back to the U.S., Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, et al, are more than happy to step into the marketplace. If we add enough cost to Chinese manufactured goods to make the other countries competitive production will shift.

Why did China refuse help of CDC and WHO?

Why did they kick out journalists?

Why did they silence or disappear several Doctors in Wuhan?

It's a mystery!

It's a typical cover up of something bad. Happens all the time. Not just in China.

Agreed, all governments do it. All people do it in some form or another.

Reported on Fox News TV newscast... prior to issuing a written report, sources will often speak anonymously about its contents which is what Fox News reported as a "Breaking Story."

THAT is your valid link?

I hope that we will live to see this clearly settled.

The sad thing is there are some people who honestly think that's how tariffs work.

[spoiler alert]
Tariffs on items imported from China is paid for by the people BUYING the products, not selling them. That means the USA pays the tariffs. Not China.

By that logic, when China charges a U.S. importer a tariff, then China is paying the tariff. So, why do we care if China charges a tariff?

I guarantee that given the choice the vast majority of people will go for the cheapest item.
Wherever it is made!

PS. Tariffs work both ways.
Ask US farmers how well they work!

There are basically three scenarios

1. Chinese biolab engineered the virus, released it
2. Chinese biolab was studying the virus, accidently escaped
3. Virus developed naturally in wet market conditions

I don't believe #1 and scientists have studied genome, doubt it is engineered.

#2 We know for a fact that they were studying the bat virus in Wuhan, no proof that it accidently escaped but a paper by Chinese scientists studied this and said it it did, then paper was removed by CCP.

#3 If this one is true, and we know it has happened before so its plausible guess what?

Whichever one it is, CCP is trying to hide it by denying access to western scientists, journalists, disappearing/censoring Doctors.

Even if it is the most innocent one, are you not ****ed off? That's okay China, enjoy your bat soup from meat at your filthy wet markets that cause pandemics. I'll sit quietly in my home, wear masks when out shopping, be afraid for anyone to breath on me, and watch my economy crater.

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Yes, I think everyone gets the obvious about tariffs.

Question: are you ok with essentially 100% of our antibiotics being made in China and thus, in effect, controlled by the CCP?

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply


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OAN as any type of legitimate "source?" :22yikes:


What's next...World Net Daily? :1rotfl:

OMG ... that's so clever and spot on!! :bigbow:

That's almost as bad as citing MSNBC for that matter!

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It may be true that this virus was an act of God (yet to be proven) but the Chinese Gov't. failed to listen to their own Dr's and allowed 3 million people to travel all over the world during the Chinese New Year (including 450,000 to the US) without a warning.

Boycotting Chinese goods won't work since many components are produced all over the world. And Tariffs are ultimately paid by the consumer. But here is an idea. Since most of our national debt is owed to China President Trump could simply declare that $6 trillion (our virus cost) is now null & void.

Why is it so important to blame and point fingers right now? There will be time to investigate the origin after we learn to fight this virus.

Really!!
 

Amazingly enough, that doesn't work! Gee, guess what. Seems any imposed increases just get added to the price of the goods. That way you can pay more for those goods. It does, however, add tariff income to the US treasury coffers. Hey wow,kinda like you just added a new way to TAX us. But that's OK; we'll just dole out a GIANT tax give away to our NEEDY GREEDY.
"THAT is how it works I've been told."

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