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Pest62 04-24-2020 07:51 AM

New Square
 
Is it true that a new square is in the planning? Does anyone know the location.

champion6 04-24-2020 07:54 AM

Yes, it is being planned. At this time, only the planners know the location.

ficoguy 04-24-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1752357)
Yes, it is being planned. At this time, only the planners know the location.

Not till Brownwood stores are 99% occupied

VApeople 04-24-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pest62 (Post 1752354)
Does anyone know the location.

A very wise person told me the new town center will be just south of CR470.

karostay 04-24-2020 10:52 AM

Disney Springs

ficoguy 04-24-2020 11:13 AM

In 5 years yes

dewilson58 04-24-2020 11:14 AM

I heard the new Square will be round.

ficoguy 04-24-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1752577)
I heard the new Square will be round.

Look at current situation: Store and restaurant rents are based on hefty % of sales, so I bet those who are paying rent in Brownwood and other Squares and plazas like Colony ain't paying much. The Hotel is 10% occupied. The Emergency Care Center did not open. The Lofts are on ice. So I would say there's a lot of economic activity that has to come back before Morse ponies up any more investment...

Jayhawk 04-24-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1752362)
Not till Brownwood stores are 99% occupied

And you know this how?

ficoguy 04-24-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pest62 (Post 1752354)
Is it true that a new square is in the planning? Does anyone know the location.

With the current economic state, I don't think new retail and dining is coming any time soon. With social distancing here to stay, City Fire will only be able to accomodate half its former capacity. So you're going to have to build a place twice as big to hold the same amount of patrons you had before. That doesn't make economic sense.

Villagerjjm 04-24-2020 11:48 AM

It is all going to be "virtual reality". Just put on your glasses, and there you are!!! You don't even have to go to be there! Now that is what I call epidemic planning!!!

charmed59 04-24-2020 11:49 AM

Did they really stop moving forward with the Lofts at Brownwood? I can’t find the link on the villages.com anymore.

ficoguy 04-24-2020 11:54 AM

As a CPA, I have many business clients in the area. Need I say more?

vintageogauge 04-24-2020 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1752599)
Here is a Third thing.

They have homes for Sale. Actually quite a few. :)

"Your Welcome " in advance of your " Thank You " :shocked:

Correct. Some of the original buyers in Fenney that got tremendous deals 3 years ago are now selling, taking a 6 figure profit and building again in Southern Oaks. Not a bad investment at all.

vintageogauge 04-24-2020 11:58 AM

There is a lot of work going on south of 470 and west of 501 towards Sumterville. Have no idea what it is but trucks are running in and out of there all day long 5 and 6 days per week.

HiHoSteveO 04-24-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1752616)
Did they really stop moving forward with the Lofts at Brownwood? I can’t find the link on the villages.com anymore.

I walked around the outer perimeter of it yesterday (Thursday) and there was plenty of activity within.

tophcfa 04-24-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1752600)
:ohdear: Sorry but I think you are wrong. I think you are thinking of one of the Villages south of CR 44 called Fenney. I could name a lot of Villages that don't have Championship Golf. and Fenney would be one of them. I live in Santiago we don't have an 18 hole course either. :popcorn:

True, but you are a very short golf cart ride from Tierra Del Sol, Hacienda Hills, Glenview, and Lopez. You are also not far from Palmer, Mallroy, Cane, and Orange Blossom. All via golf cart.

vilger 04-24-2020 12:06 PM

I think you will see a new square about the same time that all of the new restaurants and big box stores including Costco open on Rt 44.

vintageogauge 04-24-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1752608)
With the current economic state, I don't think new retail and dining is coming any time soon. With social distancing here to stay, City Fire will only be able to accomodate half its former capacity. So you're going to have to build a place twice as big to hold the same amount of patrons you had before. That doesn't make economic sense.

There will eventually be a vaccine and they'll all get back to full capacity. This year and next will probably be a little lean but should be okay after that.

ureout 04-24-2020 12:16 PM

it's going to be located down the street from Trader Joe's and Costco

champion6 04-24-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1752616)
Did they really stop moving forward with the Lofts at Brownwood? I can’t find the link on the villages.com anymore.

The Lofts at Brownwood

vintageogauge 04-24-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1752672)
They have one restaurant no golf after 4

How many restaurants are in the villages of Caroline, Sunset Point, Mallory Square, Liberty Park, Buttonwood, etc., etc, etc.? There are only 12 villages that have golf after 4:00 so why are you singling out The Village of Fenney when there are so many villages that have one or no restaurants and no golf after 4???? Some villages have no golf and no restaurants.

Travelhunter 04-24-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1752587)
Look at current situation: Store and restaurant rents are based on hefty % of sales, so I bet those who are paying rent in Brownwood and other Squares and plazas like Colony ain't paying much. The Hotel is 10% occupied. The Emergency Care Center did not open. The Lofts are on ice. So I would say there's a lot of economic activity that has to come back before Morse ponies up any more investment...

I’m not sure they can stop the train

Travelhunter 04-24-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1752642)
True, but you are a very short golf cart ride from Tierra Del Sol, Hacienda Hills, Glenview, and Lopez. You are also not far from Palmer, Mallroy, Cane, and Orange Blossom. All via golf cart.

Fenney has a lot to offer
If your criteria is championship golf then Fenney loses for today. For tomorrow a championship golf course is planned

CWGUY 04-24-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter (Post 1752800)
Fenney has a lot to offer
If your criteria is championship golf then Fenney loses for today. For tomorrow a championship golf course is planned

:ohdear: NOT in Fenney or Fenny..... south of 44 yes. :boom:

CFrance 04-24-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1752670)

I was on that site just a few days ago. Also was in Brownwood twice yesterday (Woof Gang groomers), and there are construction workers all over the Lofts area.

JoMar 04-24-2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1752816)
:ohdear: NOT in Fenney or Fenny..... south of 44 yes. :boom:

The Championship Course will be in Bradford.

EdFNJ 04-24-2020 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1752890)
I was on that site just a few days ago. Also was in Brownwood twice yesterday (Woof Gang groomers), and there are construction workers all over the Lofts area.

Dammm dogs can get a haircut but I can't! Woof!

Goldwingnut 04-25-2020 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1752637)
There is a lot of work going on south of 470 and west of 501 towards Sumterville. Have no idea what it is but trucks are running in and out of there all day long 5 and 6 days per week.

They're moving dirt to the new haul yard, they do this all the time. Eventually the dirt will be moved back or to a new location. There was one at the corner of 468 and the turnpike, across from Everglades, 2 years ago and now it's gone and they are building in Meggison Rd. There is one now at 301 and Turnpike, the dirt has been there about 9 months. There is another scheduled at the north end of the West Lakes development area.

The only real construction work scheduled for south of 470 is the construction management building near the haul road.

Travelhunter 04-25-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1752816)
:ohdear: NOT in Fenney or Fenny..... south of 44 yes. :boom:

You are correct

billethkid 04-25-2020 08:45 AM

The new square will be built one year ahead of the builed out (date)!

:duck:

fjbruning@hotmail.com 04-25-2020 05:29 PM

We bought in Marsh Bend because the salesman assured us the Magnolia Plaza would be up and running "Spring 2020." He also assured us the golf cart bridge from Marsh Bend/DeLuna to Brownwood would be finished "Spring/Summer 2020." A great price on the house is not so great now - and the Virus had nothing to do with it.

rustyp 04-25-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fjbruning@hotmail.com (Post 1753428)
We bought in Marsh Bend because the salesman assured us the Magnolia Plaza would be up and running "Spring 2020." He also assured us the golf cart bridge from Marsh Bend/DeLuna to Brownwood would be finished "Spring/Summer 2020." A great price on the house is not so great now - and the Virus had nothing to do with it.

Please elaborate on why a great price is not so great now.

Altavia 04-25-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1752950)
They're moving dirt to the new haul yard, they do this all the time. Eventually the dirt will be moved back or to a new location. There was one at the corner of 468 and the turnpike, across from Everglades, 2 years ago and now it's gone and they are building in Meggison Rd. There is one now at 301 and Turnpike, the dirt has been there about 9 months. There is another scheduled at the north end of the West Lakes development area.

The only real construction work scheduled for south of 470 is the construction management building near the haul road.

Amazing how much earth they move around, roughly 10 dump trucks a minute, 7 hrs a day, 6 days a week since January.

champion6 04-25-2020 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1753443)
Amazing how much earth they move around, roughly 10 dump trucks a minute, 7 hrs a day, 6 days a week since January.

After living here a while, I began to realize that Dirt is an inventory item for the developer. In other words, I believe someone keeps track of how cubic yards of dirt are here, how many over there, etc. Then when it's needed somewhere else, they know where to send the trucks.

MSchad 04-26-2020 05:07 AM

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Nell57 04-26-2020 07:59 AM

I live in Sunset Pointe....where you’ll find Cane Garden and it’s restaurant. The other direction down Bailey/Odell is Mallory. Ten minutes by golf cart to Palmer and Havana. I can be at 15 executive courses within 15 minutes. At night I can take a 10 minute ride to Sumter Landing on my golf cart. At least 15 restaurants to choose from.
Harold Schwartz and Gary Morse planned amenities first and home sales quickly followed.
I’m not sure that’s the current building plan

cb1972 04-26-2020 08:04 AM

six figure profit ? really

vintageogauge 04-26-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cb1972 (Post 1753639)
six figure profit ? really

Yes, lots of them, and documented via Sumter County Property Records as well as personal knowledge of friends who have sold and purchased even larger homes.

Bogie Shooter 04-26-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fjbruning@hotmail.com (Post 1753428)
We bought in Marsh Bend because the salesman assured us the Magnolia Plaza would be up and running "Spring 2020." He also assured us the golf cart bridge from Marsh Bend/DeLuna to Brownwood would be finished "Spring/Summer 2020." A great price on the house is not so great now - and the Virus had nothing to do with it.

I have some land in south FL, you could build a little get away there. Great cash price.......any interest?:ho:


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