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La lamy 04-29-2020 01:49 PM

COVID Vaccine could be available this September?!
 
This is a rather lengthy article, but interesting to note some scientists' work on developing a COVID-19 vaccine. Would you choose to be vaccinated this September if this 'quicker than normal' fix arrives in September?

In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead - The New York Times

BS Beef 04-29-2020 01:59 PM

I am not typically paranoid, but if it has anything to do with Bill Gates I'll take a pass. Too Orwellian for me.

Bjeanj 04-29-2020 02:20 PM

I wouldn’t want to be one of the first to get one.

La lamy 04-29-2020 03:28 PM

I agree! But it sure would be nice to feel immune to this terrible virus.

thelegges 04-29-2020 05:01 PM

Soon as it’s been on the market for 3 years It will be right behind the flu shot that I don’t get

Velvet 04-29-2020 06:34 PM

The vaccine will not be tested on us ... it will have been tested already... but they will have hurried it. If we had a treatment that worked when we got ill from Covid, then it would be easier to refuse the vaccine.

MandoMan 04-30-2020 05:22 AM

Sign me up! I believe in vaccinations. I noticed from the article that the biggest producer of vaccines in the world, in India, is hard at work preparing their factories to make this vaccine. Perhaps my one hesitation is whether quality might suffer with a brand new vaccine. Some of you might recall that when the first polio vaccine came out (Jonas Salk, about 1952?), a number of people got polio and died from it. It had to be withdrawn and reformulated. Salk finally got it right, though, and millions were saved from lives as polio survivors or from death by polio.

Joanne19335 04-30-2020 05:51 AM

Remdesivir is NOT a Vaccine
 
Remdesivir is an investigational drug that is being used on emergency patients only and is still in the trial stage. If approved, it will treat those who already have the coronavirus. A vaccine prevents people from getting the virus.

Remdesivir, if approved, will be used if you already have the virus. Think of it as a Tamiflu that is prescribed for people who get the flu. It shortens the length and intensity of the disease by approximately 4 days. My hope is that this antiviral will develop into a yearly treatment similar to the flu shot. We are a long way from a vaccine.

fastboat 04-30-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1755780)
This is a rather lengthy article, but interesting to note some scientists' work on developing a COVID-19 vaccine. Would you choose to be vaccinated this September if this 'quicker than normal' fix arrives in September?

In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead - The New York Times

Quick answer, YES!

toeser 04-30-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1756026)
Remdesivir is an investigational drug that is being used on emergency patients only and is still in the trial stage. If approved, it will treat those who already have the coronavirus. A vaccine prevents people from getting the virus.

Remdesivir, if approved, will be used if you already have the virus. Think of it as a Tamiflu that is prescribed for people who get the flu. It shortens the length and intensity of the disease by approximately 4 days. My hope is that this antiviral will develop into a yearly treatment similar to the flu shot. We are a long way from a vaccine.

You missed the headline. The FDA has already approved it.

toeser 04-30-2020 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1755780)
This is a rather lengthy article, but interesting to note some scientists' work on developing a COVID-19 vaccine. Would you choose to be vaccinated this September if this 'quicker than normal' fix arrives in September?

In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead - The New York Times

I predicted weeks ago that the first vaccine would not come from the U.S. The FDA along with the CDC completely blew it on testing. Both agencies are overrated.

Joanne19335 04-30-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1756063)
You missed the headline. The FDA has already approved it.

The FDA has approved it as an investigational drug in the hope that it will be approved for the general public by September. Possible side effects still need to be studied.

NotGolfer 04-30-2020 07:42 AM

I will NOT be standing in line for that drug! A couple of months ago "they" were saying it would be awhile---maybe 1 1/2 to 2 yrs before one would be available. "They'd" have to do testing etc. Why all of a sudden will one be ready this Fall? Seems suspect to me and I'm with another poster here...Bill Gates involved (?) then it's not for me. You can google videos he's done and what he promotes isn't for this person. He's not being truly benevolent, IMHO.

The remsdivir drug....one of the side effects is possible stomach/intestine perforation. I had diverticulitis a couple of years ago and was told by one of my drs. they'd never put me on a biologic. I think that's what this one is as it's used for RA and other diseases.

La lamy 04-30-2020 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1756026)
Remdesivir is an investigational drug that is being used on emergency patients only and is still in the trial stage. If approved, it will treat those who already have the coronavirus. A vaccine prevents people from getting the virus.

Remdesivir, if approved, will be used if you already have the virus. Think of it as a Tamiflu that is prescribed for people who get the flu. It shortens the length and intensity of the disease by approximately 4 days. My hope is that this antiviral will develop into a yearly treatment similar to the flu shot. We are a long way from a vaccine.

And vaccines for viruses are so tough to get right because of the constant mutation that happens as it propagates. Similarly to the flu shot, it's based on the previous year and very rarely fully effective for the new strain. That's why the fastest version may be better for the present virus.

PugMom 04-30-2020 10:24 AM

no, i would not. i typically stay as far away from vax as possible, due to concerns of the quality.

Velvet 04-30-2020 10:31 AM

I wonder if they are going to issue vaccination/antibodies passport, like they did in Europe at one time, if you want to go to where there are other people? Proof of vaccination if you want your child to attend school?

ffresh 04-30-2020 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1755877)
Soon as it’s been on the market for 3 years It will be right behind the flu shot that I don’t get

I'll be the guy behind you with the grey hair and goatee, LOL

Fred

ffresh 04-30-2020 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1756009)
Sign me up! I believe in vaccinations. I noticed from the article that the biggest producer of vaccines in the world, in India, is hard at work preparing their factories to make this vaccine. Perhaps my one hesitation is whether quality might suffer with a brand new vaccine. Some of you might recall that when the first polio vaccine came out (Jonas Salk, about 1952?), a number of people got polio and died from it. It had to be withdrawn and reformulated. Salk finally got it right, though, and millions were saved from lives as polio survivors or from death by polio.

Nah, what could go wrong, after all, it's made in India; who wouldn't want their vaccine formulated there?

I'm sure the people who got polio & died before Salk "got it right" (before thorough testing) probably would feel differently, just sayin' :icon_wink:

Fred

Barborv 04-30-2020 03:17 PM

It scares me. I typically do not get the flu shot. But Covid 19 is a different story. You don't know how it will effect you if you do get it. I know the flu has killed a lot of people also, but in generally healthy people, not such a risk. My grandfather was a pharmacist and believe it or not he wasn't a big believer in a lot of medications. More harm than good. We were brought up on that mentality . The one thing I remember as a kid was when Polio came about and they started vaccinated before sufficient tests were done to check its safely, but fortunately worked out for the best and we were all inoculated .
So the answer to the question is .....???? I don't know! I guess wait and see?

Villages Kahuna 05-01-2020 02:07 AM

Assuming they can get all the testing done and get FDA approval, all the drug companies will have to do is produce, package and distribute about 8 BILLION doses of the vaccine — the 2020 world population.

What do you figure your chances might be of finding someone who has vaccine available? Maybe consider the problems people are having just getting tested to see if they have the virus.

Nucky 05-01-2020 03:01 AM

Put me in Coach! I'll go first. Why not? What a way to pay back for the life I've had. Even if the worst happened at least it would be towards helping others. Not just words. I mean it with all my heart.

I don't particularly care for doing all the safety stuff even though I've complied 100%. I have no fingerprints left from washing my hands so much and the masks? Well I'd rather take the first shot.

Velvet 05-01-2020 12:39 PM

Dear Nucky, you’ve always been a beam of shining light at this forum. I always look forwards to your humor and kindness.


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