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Love2Swim 05-01-2020 03:32 PM

Camper/Van parking regulations
 
We are considering purchasing a van/camper, and are wondering what the regulations are regarding parking in one's driveway. It looks like a regular van, but its a couple inches too long to fit in our garage. thanks...

billethkid 05-01-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1756999)
We are considering purchasing a van/camper, and are wondering what the regulations are regarding parking in one's driveway. It looks like a regular van, but its a couple inches too long to fit in our garage. thanks...

No different than parking a "van" of any other flavor.

karostay 05-01-2020 04:25 PM

and it's registered just like a car no special plates
any one ask its your passenger van

wisbad1 05-01-2020 04:56 PM

Neighbour will love you!

red tail 05-01-2020 05:12 PM

hope you bought way south

Marathon Man 05-01-2020 05:18 PM

Community Standards. But only if you want an accurate answer.

Marvic 1 05-01-2020 05:24 PM

Sorry but camping vans are not allowed here.. We have friends the have one and need to keep moving it every 3 days from one drive way to another...

vintageogauge 05-01-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1757007)
No different than parking a "van" of any other flavor.

The difference is they are not allowed.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-01-2020 06:23 PM

The rules that specify no campers - do they define "camper?" Because a VW bus is a van - but it is also a camper. It doesn't have a kitchen or toilet, but you can put a twin mattress in the back, and there are drawers underneath the back seat for storage/clothing. I lived in mine for a summer. But it is absolutely positively considered a passenger vehicle.

vintageogauge 05-01-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1757073)
The rules that specify no campers - do they define "camper?" Because a VW bus is a van - but it is also a camper. It doesn't have a kitchen or toilet, but you can put a twin mattress in the back, and there are drawers underneath the back seat for storage/clothing. I lived in mine for a summer. But it is absolutely positively considered a passenger vehicle.

The regulation applies to RV's not passenger vans unless they are over 3/4 ton capacity. I had a Ford Transit Van when I moved here it was a large van but it did fit in the garage. It was a 8 passenger van but was easily used as a camper with the rear and center seats removed.

BobnBev 05-01-2020 08:34 PM

Don't register it as a camper-----problem solved.

CWGUY 05-01-2020 08:41 PM

:ohdear: Read the rules before you buy and follow them-----problem solved. :icon_wink:

vintageogauge 05-01-2020 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1757107)
Don't register it as a camper-----problem solved.

The tanks are obvious on these, it doesn't matter how you register it if it was built as an RV that's what it is. I had several of these Class B van motorhomes and even at the toll booths they just look down at the tanks and charge you the RV toll rate, not in Florida but in states like W. Va that have different rates.

Down Sized 05-02-2020 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1757007)
No different than parking a "van" of any other flavor.

Not true!
The title designates the vehicle as a recreational vehicle (plumbing and electrical hookup). Most everyone knows what a B size recreational vehicle is. No one will be fooled thinking it’s a just a van or we would all be doing this instead of storing them in outlying areas. There are several threads on this subject so beware.
Mine cost $180 a month just to store off of Highway 44.
There was even a news story about a villager moving his van around different areas of The Villages to skirt the 72 hour rule. The Villages took care of that also.

davem4616 05-02-2020 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1757038)
Neighbour will love you!



what's with the "U" in the word neighbor.... aye?

Greg L 05-02-2020 06:25 AM

Glad I am not your neighbor

rmagee 05-02-2020 07:01 AM

Class C Storage FYI
 
Our 2020 Tiffin Wayfarer Class C is stored off Route 301 for $112/month under cover with 30 amp hookup included. Also has dump station and wash area included.

Syd2008 05-02-2020 07:02 AM

I would ask the dealer what the MSO/Title states. Van? RV? Camper? That would definitely let you know the category it falls within.

Jtcoggin@bellsouth.net 05-02-2020 07:11 AM

Be courteous to your neighbors. Don't park it in your driveway.

Henryfrakl 05-02-2020 07:11 AM

Be considerate to your neighbors and find a storage facility. Drive around you will not even find many cars parked in driveways. Try and be a good neighbor it will come back 10 fold

RayAmb 05-02-2020 07:30 AM

Don’t assume you can get away with anything. Go look around at better areas. No vehicles are left in the driveway. Besides, your neighbors will call in a complaint. Save yourself a problem.

photo1902 05-02-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RayAmb (Post 1757255)
Don’t assume you can get away with anything. Go look around at better areas. No vehicles are left in the driveway. Besides, your neighbors will call in a complaint. Save yourself a problem.

No vehicles are left in the driveway?

So untrue.

JCMSr 05-02-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1756999)
We are considering purchasing a van/camper, and are wondering what the regulations are regarding parking in one's driveway. It looks like a regular van, but its a couple inches too long to fit in our garage. thanks...

Each District has it own set of Restrictive Covenants which sets the guidelines for many things including recreational vehicles. If you have not yet reviewed this document I suggest you do so as soon as possible. In my District the rules state as follows:

"No Owner of Homesite shall park, store or keep any vehicle except wholly within his driveway, garage or other non-visitor parking spaces. No truck in excess of 3/4 ton, camper, boat trailer or aircraft, or any vehicle other than a private, non-commercial vehicle may be parked in a parking space excepot a boat may be kept in the garage with the garage door closed. No Owner of a Homesite shall repair or restore any motor vehicle, boat trailer, aircraft, or other vehicle on any portion of any Homesite, or on dedicated or reserved areas, except for emergency repairs, and then only to the extent necessary to enable movement thereof to a proper repair facility."

In addition to the above stated rule, this subject if further clarified by each District under the External Deed Restriction Standards for your District. Within this document conversion vans with hook-ups for electric and water on rear or side are consideredc recreational vehicles. Furthermore, this same document clarifies the term Parking to state that Campers, Winnebago's and other RV's are allowed on the driveway for not to exceed 72 hours (3 days) provided they are not plugged in or inhabited thus accommodating the packing and unpacking process. Fines for violating this rule are set at $150 plus $50 per day of continued violation.

Although the above information specifically addresses my specific District, I think you will find that many of the Districts have very similar restrictions. FYI The Villages operates and maintains at least two designated areas where you can rent a space to store RV's and other motor vehicles plus there are several non-Villages businesses that offer the same service. You might want to check these out.

vintageogauge 05-02-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JCMSr (Post 1757332)
Each District has it own set of Restrictive Covenants which sets the guidelines for many things including recreational vehicles. If you have not yet reviewed this document I suggest you do so as soon as possible. In my District the rules state as follows:

"No Owner of Homesite shall park, store or keep any vehicle except wholly within his driveway, garage or other non-visitor parking spaces. No truck in excess of 3/4 ton, camper, boat trailer or aircraft, or any vehicle other than a private, non-commercial vehicle may be parked in a parking space excepot a boat may be kept in the garage with the garage door closed. No Owner of a Homesite shall repair or restore any motor vehicle, boat trailer, aircraft, or other vehicle on any portion of any Homesite, or on dedicated or reserved areas, except for emergency repairs, and then only to the extent necessary to enable movement thereof to a proper repair facility."

In addition to the above stated rule, this subject if further clarified by each District under the External Deed Restriction Standards for your District. Within this document conversion vans with hook-ups for electric and water on rear or side are consideredc recreational vehicles. Furthermore, this same document clarifies the term Parking to state that Campers, Winnebago's and other RV's are allowed on the driveway for not to exceed 72 hours (3 days) provided they are not plugged in or inhabited thus accommodating the packing and unpacking process. Fines for violating this rule are set at $150 plus $50 per day of continued violation.

Although the above information specifically addresses my specific District, I think you will find that many of the Districts have very similar restrictions. FYI The Villages operates and maintains at least two designated areas where you can rent a space to store RV's and other motor vehicles plus there are several non-Villages businesses that offer the same service. You might want to check these out.

That pretty much says it all, thanks for the information. These Class B's are not cheap, they start around $80,000 and go up to $200,000 so you don't want to be shelling out that kind of money and then find out you can't use it as a daily driver or park it at home.

Magajane 05-02-2020 10:25 AM

We had a 23 foot motor home and 3 days is the rule in the Villages.
I would see. Bigger ones parked for longer but we lived on Chula Vista and got told to move it.

Dennys37Packard 05-02-2020 10:43 AM

I would not do that to my neighbors. Many of us moved here because of the rules and enjoy clean beautiful neighborhoods without the clutter of work truck and vans parked all over. If I was into camping or boating, I would have moved somewhere else with less rules rather than try to finagle or bend the rules for my purpose. But that’s just me. Best of luck.

gerridon71 05-02-2020 12:22 PM

van....
 
we had a class b rv.. we were told it could not stay permanently in the drive-way..
the villages does have a place that you can store the van..
however the place on cr 301 has great storage and also covered storage...

Bogie Shooter 05-02-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1756999)
We are considering purchasing a van/camper, and are wondering what the regulations are regarding parking in one's driveway. It looks like a regular van, but its a couple inches too long to fit in our garage. thanks...

Here is a recent thread with 69 posts...……...your answer must be there.
Or just maybe you could call.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...hlight=parking

vermonster 05-02-2020 12:48 PM

In Florida, tags for any r/v are same as for passenger vehicle. Therefore, you will not be able to park it in your driveway if it has the features of an r/v, e.g., a visible roof a/c unit, water and sewer tanks/connections, etc. You might be able to get away with it, but if a complaint is made to community standards, you will have to move it and pay to park it off site.

LSTOWELL 05-02-2020 06:22 PM

No vehicle that you use to sleep and camp etc can be kept at your house..rent an RV spot..you can have at your house to load and unload 72 hours..don't take the chance of trying to park at your house..it's not your everyday vehicle

TimeForChange 05-03-2020 06:09 AM

Be prepared to pay a monthly fee to park it off the reservation. If it is registered as an RV you cannot park it on your property. All you will need to one complaint.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LSTOWELL (Post 1757720)
No vehicle that you use to sleep and camp etc can be kept at your house..rent an RV spot..you can have at your house to load and unload 72 hours..don't take the chance of trying to park at your house..it's not your everyday vehicle

This is where semantics can mean the difference between having to move your vehicle and not having to move it.

Anyone can sleep in any covered vehicle. There are students who can't afford room and board at their universities, who have been sleeping in their cars. There are homeless people who live out of their cars. Not vans, not trucks, not RVs. Cars. Just normal cars. Maybe hatch-backs. And as I said previously - I lived in my VW bus, on a twin mattress. The back set pulled down flat, and the mattress fit perfectly on top of it. There were 2 drawers underneath the seat, where I stored my clothing. I had a portable cooler - the kind you had to put ice in to keep it cool, for soda and juice. I parked it in a field that belonged to a farmer who I paid a few dollars every day for the privilege, and used his outhouse and outdoor shower to clean off.

It was not a camper. It was not an RV. It didn't have a pop-top or pull-outs or awnings, no plumbing, no electric hookup options. Just a passenger vehicle. And I lived in it for a summer in Canada.

I could've done the same with my subaru station wagon, though it wouldn't have been as spacious.

A normal car can absolutely be lived in, if circumstances required it.

The point is - "if you live in it or sleep or camp in it" is not criteria for what constitutes a camper. A camper is a very specific thing. It is distinguishable from any other car not by how you use it, but rather by how it was purposely designed to be used.

tophcfa 05-03-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LSTOWELL (Post 1757720)
No vehicle that you use to sleep and camp etc can be kept at your house..rent an RV spot..you can have at your house to load and unload 72 hours..don't take the chance of trying to park at your house..it's not your everyday vehicle

In my younger days, when my knees were good, when we got a major blizzard I would drive my Subaru wagon to Killington, VT at night and sleep in the car at the ski area parking lot. When the snow plows woke me up, it was time to make first tracks in the powder.

So does that mean I can’t park the Subaru in my driveway?

vintageogauge 05-03-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1758034)
In my younger days, when my knees were good, when we got a major blizzard I would drive my Subaru wagon to Killington, VT at night and sleep in the car at the ski area parking lot. When the snow plows woke me up, it was time to make first tracks in the powder.

So does that mean I can’t park the Subaru in my driveway?

What does a Subaru have to do with a vehicle made for sleeping or camping? We've all slept in cars at one time or another, that has nothing to do with the topic.

BobnBev 05-03-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1758034)
In my younger days, when my knees were good, when we got a major blizzard I would drive my Subaru wagon to Killington, VT at night and sleep in the car at the ski area parking lot. When the snow plows woke me up, it was time to make first tracks in the powder.

So does that mean I can’t park the Subaru in my driveway?

Only if it's snowing:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

karostay 05-03-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg L (Post 1757200)
Glad I am not your neighbor

Me Too !

Volseg13 08-26-2020 08:35 AM

Pop-up?
 
I live on the Historic side. Would a pop-up be allowed to be permanently parked in my driveway as long as most if not all of it is under the carport?

Chris

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-26-2020 09:20 AM

Before you start parking it in your driveway let me know where you live In can I have to move

justjim 08-26-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jtcoggin@bellsouth.net (Post 1757233)
Be courteous to your neighbors. Don't park it in your driveway.

Depending where you live in TV you could park it on the street. That won’t make your neighbors happy but as long as it doesn’t impede first responders it’s legal. :boom:

justjim 08-26-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rmagee (Post 1757225)
Our 2020 Tiffin Wayfarer Class C is stored off Route 301 for $112/month under cover with 30 amp hookup included. Also has dump station and wash area included.

Please, what is the name of this storage place?


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