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village dreamer 05-07-2020 10:01 AM

no pickleball ... but
 
no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

Cheeks 05-07-2020 10:03 AM

Noise abatement...................kidding it makes no sense at all

tophcfa 05-07-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1760468)
no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.

dewilson58 05-07-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1760468)
no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

Social Distancing................apples & oranges. Duh.

Topspinmo 05-07-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1760499)
Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.


IMO There no connection between outdoor sport and catching the virus. It all speculation. Golfers get closer than 6 feet, people in restaurants get closer than 6 feet, people in stores get closer than 6 feet. No reason to Not open out door activities for individual play. I can see restrictions large group activities as precaution. Can’t stay closed for ever. I will admit bocce and shuffleboard are closer and harder to keep separated.

village dreamer 05-07-2020 11:55 AM

in pickleball at the net , its 7feet to the net , 14 feet from one side to the other

perrjojo 05-07-2020 01:40 PM

Bocce, shuffleboard, etc. you may be social distancing but all are possibly touching same equipment.

Pballer 05-07-2020 02:07 PM

I read in the Sun today that basketball is going to be allowed to. If you are not within 6 feet of each other you are not playing it right.

JGVillages 05-07-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1760499)
Using the above as examples I can see allowing singles only pickleball, but not doubles. I suppose if both teams in doubles are Couples that live together, doubles would be OK. The only difference between pickleball and the other activities is that the players in the other activities are separated by much more than 6 feet. In pickleball, players can come closer than 6 feet at/near the net.

Not when tagging someone out at a base!

shut the front door 05-07-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1760716)
Not when tagging someone out at a base!

In senior softball in TV, tagging is never required. It's a safety issue.

Marathon Man 05-07-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1760468)
no pickleball but , you can play corn toss , horseshoes , shuffleboard and bocce??? what up with that.:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

But only if you have your own equipment.

Topspinmo 05-07-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1760557)
in pickleball at the net , its 7feet to the net , 14 feet from one side to the other

Tennis is even better, nobody around here can make it to net! :icon_wink:

Topspinmo 05-07-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1760773)
But only if you have your own equipment.

News flash tennis you always had you’re own equipment, that is if you know how to play, nobody that plays game regularly plays with the dead balls and Wally World rackets in sports sheds, they are there for visitors.

At the end of pickleball we had Our own equipment and water also.

thelegges 05-07-2020 07:51 PM

Dead balls go to the dog (so to speak) and who doesn’t own at least 3 racquet

CFrance 05-07-2020 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1760557)
in pickleball at the net , its 7feet to the net , 14 feet from one side to the other

You can tell the people who don't play pickleball. No one stands at the net; it's illegal to go into that area unless a ball happens to land there. And even if it did, the people on the other side of the net would still be seven feet away. The area around the net is formally called the no volley zone, colloquially called "the kitchen," and if you step into it when there's no ball there, you lose the point.


In doubles, team players are about six feet apart or more. The only contact from team to team is the ball, and unless you sneeze or cough on it, the likelihood of getting covid-19 is slim.


The problem I think the Rec dept is dealing with is the part called open play, where people line up to play. If they restricted four people to a court and went to a reservation or system like they do in golf, that problem would go away. There would be no line of people waiting to play.


Or, if they can monitor the pools and only allow a certain number of people in for a certain amount of time, they could do the same at the pickleball courts.

CFrance 05-07-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1760785)
Tennis is even better, nobody around here can make it to net! :icon_wink:

That's funny!:1rotfl:

Topspinmo 05-07-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1760820)
Dead balls go to the dog (so to speak) and who doesn’t own at least 3 racquet

I’ve downsized to about 10 babolats and heads. Easy to string on my stringer.

TimeForChange 05-08-2020 05:10 AM

Incorrect re golf. In the three groups I play in on Champ courses we maintain six feet at all times. That is the rule. Not saying some do not abide in other games but in our group we do.

Rwirish 05-08-2020 05:26 AM

Makes perfect sense, it’s called social distancing.

donassaid 05-08-2020 05:35 AM

You obviously don't play much pickleball because very few people playing doubles ever get closer than 6 feet together. The "kitchen" line is 7 feet back on both sides of the net and few people go into the kitchen. Not to mention that the virus only survives for 90 seconds in heat and humidity.

EileenK 05-08-2020 06:03 AM

We were using our own equipment all through March. It should always be ‘play at your own risk.’ Many couples play so if you play with your spouse against another couple the risk would be extremely low. Or put the nets up and we can play skinny singles.

aa1949a 05-08-2020 06:24 AM

Pickleball
 
Do you really think that The Villages will hire that many people to cover all the pickleball courts to control all the old children we have in the Villages?????

600th Photo Sq 05-08-2020 06:30 AM

Florida is currently in Phase I, and the decision has been made here in The Villages that playing Pickleball is not workable.

With that in mind all of you will just have to accept that decision.

Phase II when it happens might have far less restrictions than what is in place now.

From what I have read and heard our Country will open up by Memorial Day.

Just 3 short weeks away.

Meanwhile Amazon has Kites.

bmit16 05-08-2020 06:34 AM

There is still no evidence that anyone has contracted this virus doing outside activity. The virus has spread in nursing homes and close office space where the air system recirculates the virus. There is evidence now that the virus does not exist in sun and hot air. Open outside activity, the virus will not spread. There are expert opinions out there that back this up.

EileenK 05-08-2020 06:36 AM

At the end of March we left the middle court empty and people waiting to play were in line at an appropriate distance. We brought our own balls, paddles and water. Put the nets up please!

rstebbins 05-08-2020 06:50 AM

I agree with that. PB is by definition almost totally six feet apart and the courts are farther apart than that. As you said the big issue is the excessive numbers of people lined up to play on the next open court. Towards the end we all tried to stay apart. Starting this time of year it is less of an issue becasue of no snow birds. Wear gloves, wash the balls etc, the sport is outdoors where we are safer. Look at New York stay inside and get sick.

bmit16 05-08-2020 06:51 AM

I bet everything would open up tomorrow if the governor declared a hold harmless law for covid 19. This would mean no one could be held liable if someone contracted covid 19 while participating in an activity at their facility. They are all worried they will be sued if they open and someone gets the virus.

Altavia 05-08-2020 06:55 AM

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There is still no evidence that anyone has contracted this virus doing outside activity. The virus has spread in nursing homes and close office space where the air system recirculates the virus. There is evidence now that the virus does not exist in sun and hot air. Open outside activity, the virus will not spread. There are expert opinions out there that back this up.

Exactly!

DanBrew 05-08-2020 07:29 AM

Einstein said it best. "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

wayneman 05-08-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EileenK (Post 1760942)
At the end of March we left the middle court empty and people waiting to play were in line at an appropriate distance. We brought our own balls, paddles and water. Put the nets up please!

Some of us have ball Machines and could practice by ourselves. Lowering the nets was a cruel thing to do.

argos5usa 05-08-2020 08:07 AM

There are no legitimate "health and safety" reasons to keep pickleball courts closed at this point.... In fact, the Rec Department's current decision to keep them closed is now adversely impacting the physical health of those who rely on such exercise for conditions like high blood pressure.

It is much healthier for people to be outside doing exercise than sitting at home and being afraid to touch anything.

Topspinmo 05-08-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by aa1949a (Post 1760927)
Do you really think that The Villages will hire that many people to cover all the pickleball courts to control all the old children we have in the Villages?????

So, what makes golf so special, o I see as long as don’t affect my sport (if you want to call it that) it’s Ok to bash other right?


Maybe they need to hire more ambassador’s? So they don’t have to spend millions on course repairs, keeping them from driving up to greens, and Keeping some inline at starter shacks and parking lots apart.

Topspinmo 05-08-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1760502)
Social Distancing................apples & oranges. Duh.


Let’s see corn hole beside each other, bags go In hole touching opponents bag, sliding across the platform, got reach in get the bags.Let’s see horseshoes, ( rarely see anybody playing anyway) horse shoes hit the ringer plop on top of Each other In the dirt, both players picking the up their horseshoe after the came in contact. Shuffle board not so much, but social distancing would be kinda hard. Don’t even want to discuss bocce. Yep apples and oranges when compared to other sports.

IMO all hypothetical BS which includes ALL outdoor sports.

ItsALLaboutTheLOVE 05-08-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1760894)
Not to mention that the virus only survives for 90 seconds in heat and humidity.

Hmmm... I think that is incorrect information. one of my best friends is a viral disease professor. There are lots of incorrect data on the internets. They are not yet certain what heat and humidity does to the virus. But it is definitely alive for more than 90 seconds! Most surfaces is a day to a week with each timeframe reducing the effectiveness of the virus. so it would be less contaminated after a week then after day one.

But yes, the contact with the ball or clinking paddles after the game is over at the net is the risk in pickleball. Ideally the pickleball would be dumped in a 10% bleach solution quite often during the game. Probably singles would be the best idea. If full-court singles is too difficult you can play skinny singles. You only use half the court. So it's like you're playing doubles because you're only covering your half.
That's my two cents, it's worth what you paid for it...

graciegirl 05-08-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1761009)
There are no legitimate "health and safety" reasons to keep pickleball courts closed at this point.... In fact, the Rec Department's current decision to keep them closed is now adversely impacting the physical health of those who rely on such exercise for conditions like high blood pressure.

It is much healthier for people to be outside doing exercise than sitting at home and being afraid to touch anything.

Usually it is. ABSOLUTELY you'd be right, COMPLETELY...…….that exercise is the best thing for everyone's general health, and pickleball would be one of the best ways, as it raises the resting heart rate and keeps it up for some time......But in these unusual times, older people are at much greater risk than the general population to die, IF they contract the virus.

600th Photo Sq 05-08-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1760502)
Social Distancing................apples & oranges. Duh.

Or Potatoes and Turnips. Do Da Day :doggie:

ItsALLaboutTheLOVE 05-08-2020 09:18 AM

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Rosebud1949 05-08-2020 09:44 AM

MASKS AND GLOVES, hand sanitizer, and disinfected balls..... we can play...... TV wont let us. Some monitoring needed for 6 feet distance OFF court when waiting... no problem...... just Rec Dept... when folk start deducting funds from the monthly CDD they pay as we have NO FACILITIES.. maybe that will help.

roob1 05-08-2020 09:48 AM

There have been numerous ongoing discussions similar to this one on The Villages Pickleball Community, a Facebook group, for those who wish to read/express additional opinions.

fdpaq0580 05-08-2020 10:01 AM

In favor of exercise.
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1761070)
Usually it is. ABSOLUTELY you'd be right, COMPLETELY...…….that exercise is the best thing for everyone's general health, and pickleball would be one of the best ways, as it raises the resting heart rate and keeps it up for some time......But in these unusual times, older people are at much greater risk than the general population to die, IF they contract the virus.

While not a player of pickle ball or tennis, I am in favor of any outdoor exercise. Just wondered if players would be open to an idea similar to golf where players reserve a court (tee time), maybe, thirty minutes, check in at the rec center , pick up a "score card" to be clipped somewhere at the court showing who is allowed on ( inside the gate) which court. No non-players/spectators inside the court area. I am sure that there would have to be rules, safeguards and some level of supervision to keep non-player out and make the courts available and safe.
So, does anyone think this is an idea worth pursuing?


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