'Shocking’: 66% of new coronavirus patients in N.Y. stayed home: Cuomo
 

ALBANY — The majority of recently hospitalized coronavirus patients in New York are people who have followed the precaution of staying home, Gov. Cuomo said Wednesday.

The governor said it was “shocking" that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who are either retired or unemployed and not commuting to work on a regular basis.

Cuomo: 66 percent of new coronavirus NY cases at home - New York Daily News

How can this be

I have no idea. Maybe HVAC systems in large apartment buildings or sewage systems?

If you are in a single family home the only way you can get it is if you go to grocery store/pharmacy etc or someone living with you brings it home.

If you look at other data, these people likely live in dense situations, many members to a household, one of them going out to work. These are not people who live one couple to a detached house like in TV going out just for groceries or golf.

Nursing “homes” included in that number? Remember, many people still had to go to work and dragged the virus home to their families. Others completely ignored the restrictions but said they stayed home.

Cuomo said 18% of new cases came from nursing homes, not included in the 66%

Just says they weren't working, not that they stayed home?

Maybe they were infected prior to the lockdown?

kathy

Maybe it is a miscalculation just as there have been several others. Wasn't staying home was what they were supposed to be doing?

Seems reasonable that those people who "stayed home" also "went out" for groceries, walks, appointments, etc., as did those they live with.

The Daily News headline is misleading. It's not "66% of new cases," it's 66% of hew hospital admissions."

According to the data, 18% of new cases came from nursing homes, 4% from assisted-living facilities, 2% from congregate-care facilities, 2% were homeless, less than 1% from prisons and 8% were marked as “other." So more than half of the 66% were either in group living, homeless or unknown.

The point of NY (to me) is they waited too long to pay attention. Their ignorance or arrogance kept them from distancing early on. Part of this was a result of the lack of Governor's direction. IF they 66% number is true, they people were already infected by the time they "stayed at home".

It was later determined that these folks had outside people ( caregivers) coming into their homes regularly. They did not disclose this in the 1st news broadcast. The news made it sound like they magically got the virus, and how can that happen. We all know its human to human transfer.

I think you missed the point. Maybe early on (i.e., more than ago), NY was slow to react, but these are new relatively cases; well beyond the accepted 14-day period.

"I think you missed the point." Slow to react, did not social distance. They had human to human contact at some point (or within the spit zone) recently with the thousands and thousand of the infected.

25% of the deaths in NY are from residents of assisted living facilities because Cuomo made them take in COVID-19 patients. 5500+ deaths in these facilities.

That is correct Gov Cuomo. It is up to me, not the almighty government to determine what is right for me. Yea, I know all the haters will come out of the woodwork and state what a selfish ahole I am, but I just simply fervently believe in PERSONAL accountability and responsibility. I suppose it is my independent spirit or perhaps my zest for liberty. I just want the government to do their jobs, not mine. Get this country rolling again and stay the hell out of the way. Allow individuals to be just that and pursue life, liberty, and happiness and stop promising that to everyone. That is our own job.

You really do not believe that BS, do you? If you don’t leave the home, how can you be infected? Some more NY BS!

I think we all know that these people got the virus from somewhere outside their home. They were either "out" before they quarantined or else they went out. You don't get it from living in NYC.

You may be on to something. HVAC systems in a building, like a giant cruise ship could be the culprit. Not that many single family homes within the city.....I don't think.

Density is likely a major factor, I think. New Yorkers and residents of any city living in close quarters with others are very vulnerable. That is why Miami Dade has more serious problems that other places in Florida where we are more spread out. Outsiders and fear mongers suggested The Villages would be a hot spot but we generally live well apart from our neighbors, only coming together for activities or socializing, not in the day-to-day business of living. Live close: breath others' air. Live farther away: breath fresh air. Lesson: density can be deadly.

He was on Colbert last night. It basically comes down to the personal habits of individuals: washing hands, masks, Distancing. I think that combined with dense population, many family members in one dwelling. I’m sure we hear more on this.

Yes most of their Covid developed in nursing home. Know why? It is because this ignoramus was sending diagnosed positive into nursing homes to recover or get back to the nursing home where they were a resident. This all on Cuomo. He put into law that nursing homes had to accept Covid patients. What kind of genius would force nursing homes to accept Covid positive patients when the entire population are elderly with preexisting conditions.

Staying home does not equal isolation.

Covid 19 is spread by fecal virus-laden aerosol plumes! Virus particles linger in restrooms airborne for hours, waiting to infect the next person's respiratory system.

Think about the spread in nursing homes, prisons, ships, and multifamily households. Your viewers need to know it’s more than just washing hands.

Governor Cuomo talked about 66% Covid-19 admissions are from people who stayed home. New Yorkers live in close quarters and in apartment buildings that share plumbing supply lines. Covid-19 fecal fume transmission makes sense.

Bloomberg article explains transmission.


"novel coronavirus is shed in the feces of infected people"

"...microbes...are inhaled"

"live virus particles in stool specimens indicates a fecal-oral route for coronavirus, which may be why it’s caused outbreaks on cruise ships...Diamond Princess..."

Here is a presentation that identifies the oral-fecal method of transmission.
COVID-19 | Coronavirus: Epidemiology, Pathophysiology, Diagnostics - YouTube


The inhaled virus-laden fecal plume transmission must be told! You can handle it.

Hey, stay out of public restrooms!

I agree. Our granddaughter who is a line producer for one of the big three National News Networks is doing her job from her Manhattan apartment...……….However, they are getting take out. I still am not getting food from outside our home that is prepared. I am even suspicious of fresh fruits like blueberries and strawberries...who handled them and when?

Don't jump on me. I have the protective instinct built into almost every mother in the universe. I keep telling her she is damned dumb to get take out. She makes more money than any one in our family ever did. She is respectful to me, but she doesn't listen.

Don’t forget the mayor.

Few do, once they get out and especially in college.

You couldn’t pay me go on cruise.

Reading both the lines and between the lines:
The article says about 25% of those who came down with the disease were in nursing homes, retirement centers, assisted living facilities, and jails.

As for the 66% that are retired or unemployed, bear in mind what things are like in New York City and the cities across the River in New Jersey. A LOT of those people could stay at home and maybe do stay at home, but live with extended families in cramped apartments, and not all of those family members stay at home. Many have essential jobs, but then have to come home to their families, including grandma and grandpa. Many of the younger people may have the virus, but not have symptoms, and because they haven’t been tested, they may pass the virus on to older people in their households without realizing it. The older people get sick and have to be hospitalized. Until all contacts possible are tested, we won’t know.

Meanwhile, most people in The Villages live alone or with one person in a house, rather than an apartment home. Everyone has access to the luxury of space, fresh air, exercise (walking). We get upset about people not keeping six feet of distance, but compare that to twelve people in the Bronx living day and night in a two bedroom apartment with 700 square feet and four essential workers coming and going. This is why there are so few cases of the virus in The Villages and so few deaths, even though our age and medical histories would lead people to expect many more cases.

We should count our blessings. Probably more than 66% of the cases here are in the group in question. But consider. So far, 78 cases in The Villages out of a population of 130,000. If it were 1%, that would be 1,300 cases. We would need SEVENTEEN TIMES as many cases to equal that number, and that is the number sick, not dead. Off the top of my head, about 0.06% of people in The Villages have been diagnosed. By contrast, on average, 0.1% of the people who catch the flu every year die of it.

This must be one of the safer places to be in the whole country.

Como and De Blasio should be brought up on murder charges
If the patients were sent to proper medical facilities like Javits Center.Central Park Field hospital
USNS Comfort Medical Ship instead patents were directed over to their crony connected nursing homes
They would have had a fighting chance.
At the nursing homes the bill is paid by the government 100 %
The other facilities no one would have profited is was all about $$$$$$

I started to write about a conversation we had yesterday with a young lady who works in the lab of one of the large hospitals in Leesburg. If you want to find out first hand the truth about COVID talk to someone who works at a hospital. You will get the relief that this virus is not as bad as being reported and angered when you hear the truth. She said every person is swabbed when they walk in the door, takes 10 minutes for results. 2 have tested positive in the last 3 months, zero deaths. Seek the truth.

The key word is "hospitalizations" and that is not what the fear-inducing headlines are about .... of course hospitalizations were of older people who are not working. This is no news - just a sensationalized headline from the lay press.

Don't believe all of the numbers of this so called virus that's reported. Remember it's the media and they only want us to believe what they report.

Well said. I agree 100 percent with you. Don't run our lives. Stick to taking care of your states which some are really lacking.

No Nursing homes were at 18% separate from this number

No nursing homes in that number. There was a separate category for that

Lack of governors direction? What? We are talking about a guy that has been honest, direct, allowed doctors, scientists and health professionals to bring facts to the public, and in many cases delivered tough news with empathy. I have been impressed with his candor and level of concern.

Died at home.
 

What NY is not saying any one that died at home will be considered to have died from the corona virus. No testing, no autopsy no proof. It's all about the money. Once cities and states were getting funding for each corona virus case and money for using a ventilators, I stopped believing the numbers. The mayor of NY added 3700 deaths to the list from the virus.

Yeah, he's doing a heck of a job up there.

Population:

Florida: 21,500,000
New York: 19,500,000

Coronavirus cases:

FL: 38,828
NY: 337,421

Coronavirus deaths:

FL: 1,600
NY: 26,365

Staying home.....a very relative term.
To those of us in TV staying home is in our house.
Ditto for locations with single family dwellings.

Staying home in NYC very well means in a multi floor, multi family apartment/condo type building.

Totally different exposure profiles.