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sallyh26 05-22-2020 06:35 PM

Discrimination
 
Nothing to complain but after reading comments. Moving on😜

CWGUY 05-22-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sallyh26 (Post 1769409)
Today I called priority pool membership to sign up for a membership. My neighbors have been asking me to do it this so we could go to the pools together, at the country clubs.

The cost for a single membership is $200. But for people living at the same address it’s $130 or $260 for a couple.

How is this fair? It should be one price for all. Singles live on one income and have to Pay more than couples who live on two incomes.

Yes I bought the membership but not happy about this discrimination against singles. Just needed to vent #%+%#Ā„

:shrug: Maybe make your next call to the District and ask to have your Amenities and trash bill cut in half. :popcorn:

dewilson58 05-22-2020 07:15 PM

Why does the house with one person in it pay the same property taxes as the Brady Bunch???


I just don't get it.


:ohdear:

Marathon Man 05-22-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sallyh26 (Post 1769409)
Today I called priority pool membership to sign up for a membership. My neighbors have been asking me to do it this so we could go to the pools together, at the country clubs.

The cost for a single membership is $200. But for people living at the same address it’s $130 or $260 for a couple.

How is this fair? It should be one price for all. Singles live on one income and have to Pay more than couples who live on two incomes.

Yes I bought the membership but not happy about this discrimination against singles. Just needed to vent #%+%#Ā„

I guess when you start playing golf and pay the trail fee, we will be hearing from you again.

F16 1UB 05-22-2020 08:07 PM

Don’t forget to add sales tax to your membership. We love ours because I was sick of listening to moaning & groaning about EVERYTHING at our neighborhood pool. And there’s actually people smiling, laughing, and eating. Hey you can even hear music too. Is this a great country or what....

vintageogauge 05-22-2020 08:09 PM

Why would you assume that couples have two incomes. With the average age here being 67 there are a ton of people that are not yet on social security and may not have other pensions. Also, is there a problem going to the neighborhood pools together?

champion6 05-22-2020 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sallyh26 (Post 1769409)
<snip> Just needed to vent #%+%#Ā„

I hope you feel better now.

Stu from NYC 05-22-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1769447)
I hope you feel better now.

Sigmund Freud was a big fan of venting

Mleeja 05-22-2020 08:47 PM

Have you ever checked the pricing for a cruise? The cost of room is about 2/3 for a single as it is for a double. This is not new!

Jayhawk 05-22-2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sallyh26 (Post 1769409)
Today I called priority pool membership to sign up for a membership. My neighbors have been asking me to do it this so we could go to the pools together, at the country clubs.

The cost for a single membership is $200. But for people living at the same address it’s $130 or $260 for a couple.

How is this fair? It should be one price for all. Singles live on one income and have to Pay more than couples who live on two incomes.

Yes I bought the membership but not happy about this discrimination against singles. Just needed to vent #%+%#Ā„

I think you are misstating the cost for a couple. If only one person in the house buys the pool enhancement, it is still $200 as it is a SINGLE membership, not $130 as you wrote. If both join, there is a different rate ($260) for 2 people who must live in the same house.

No discrimination here. Just enjoy your perk and let the anger go.

Two Bills 05-23-2020 04:01 AM

If you go swimming twice a day, it wil be better value than a married couple.:icon_wink:

Love2Swim 05-23-2020 04:25 AM

Go swimming and ignore the people on this thread who are clearly not very supportive. I agree that a pool membership should be priced per person. Each person is occupying space at the pool.

Oregon47 05-23-2020 04:49 AM

Or it’s $200 for the first person and $60 for the second...

Rwirish 05-23-2020 05:09 AM

Different price structure which has absolutely nothing to do with discrimination.

juscause 05-23-2020 05:22 AM

No one pays just $130.00. You may vent to your heart's content, but your premise is simply wrong.

bp243 05-23-2020 05:23 AM

$130 per person is a fair price. Find some others who agree, form a committee, and take your research to the decision-makers.

Tuly914 05-23-2020 05:24 AM

QUOTE=sallyh26;1769409]Today I called priority pool membership to sign up for a membership. My neighbors have been asking me to do it this so we could go to the pools together, at the country clubs.

The cost for a single membership is $200. But for people living at the same address it’s $130 or $260 for a couple.

How is this fair? It should be one price for all. Singles live on one income and have to Pay more than couples who live on two incomes.

Yes I bought the membership but not happy about this discrimination against singles. Just needed to vent #%+%#Ā„[/QUOTE]

I understand you fully. A single person should not have to pay more than a couple. Ignore some of these childish comments, because in due time, if one should divorce or become widowed, I'm sure they'll be complaining about paying to much as a single person.

Kathe 05-23-2020 05:31 AM

I totally agree. Did you ask how they justify that? Not that it would change.

Rsenholzi 05-23-2020 05:49 AM

You are never going to get sympathy from a couple . They just don’t understand how often singles get screwed. This is just the cream on the pudding. From the fact that they can’t claim head of household with the IRS even though they are, to paying double for a cruise cabin , to paying double for sanitation ( even though they are putting out less trash) , to paying more for a pool membership ( I understand the $130 because when you divide the $260 by 2 , it comes out to $130 each while a single pays $200 no matter what) , to my beach pass when I lived up north ( a family of five paid the same as a single - no breaks) . Even in the stimulus package a couple got double what the single got- it didn’t go by household . Yes, singles get screwed at every turn- yet they are still paying the same mortgage , fees , taxes, sanitation , Water, amenities, Etc. as everyone else. Stop attacking her and open your eyes people. It pays to be a couple.

Luvs21putt 05-23-2020 05:50 AM

Economics
 
It is the same for golf. I believe the assumption is that for most couples (not all) that one of the two is the one who uses it the most (golf or pool) and the other one comes along occasionally. If they changed to pricing it per person they would not lower the single price they would raise the couple price and then it would not be worth the price for the second half of the couple to join.
Thus, they make more revenue by lowering the price for the second person of the household because they at least get $60 vs nothing.
So in your example, it’s $200 for the first person and $60 for the second. I’ve been paying single rates for 20 years and I’ve come to grudgingly accept this. It is economics. Not discrimination.

Nanny32162 05-23-2020 06:06 AM

Thank you. I agree with you. Others are comparing apples and oranges.

Nanny32162 05-23-2020 06:13 AM

I am part of a couple, but I agree with you, it is not fair when it comes to passes for pools, beaches, PTA ember ships, and so forth. I do separate property taxes, sanitation fees, anc such. There are larger families who put out less trash because of there reuse and recycling than a.single household. I addresses the OTA dues directly with the organization, it was corrected.

cmeinel@verizon.net 05-23-2020 06:17 AM

Priority membership
 
What is priority pool membership is it just certain villages?

gwenhwalker@yahoo.com 05-23-2020 06:28 AM

It's the same with everything. Singles do not get a break in golf, amenity fee,etc

MOMOH 05-23-2020 06:41 AM

Pool memberships and amenities fees should be pro-rated for single people. I pay the same for amenities/activities as my neighbors who have two people in the household. I only use half the amenities as they do, yet we pay the same. I'm not saying it should be half, because part of the fee includes groundskeeping, etc., but there should be some discount for the amenities part for single households. I'm sure there is a breakdown of how the fee is calculated and this could be adjusted.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com 05-23-2020 06:43 AM

Thank you. Pools have water in them no matter. Why a priority pool? I go to the neighborhood pool. I personally cannot buying a priority is worth it. But if that is your choice I cannot see you complaining about the price.

CJMarwal 05-23-2020 06:57 AM

What is a priority pool membership?
 
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Originally Posted by cmeinel@verizon.net (Post 1769509)
What is priority pool membership is it just certain villages?

I'd like to know what this is also. We haven't yet moved to TV but planning to do so in 2 years and this is the first time I've heard of a priority pool membership.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-23-2020 07:07 AM

It's like everything else in business. The more you buy the lower the price per unit.

Bill Harlan 05-23-2020 07:10 AM

The tax is on the house not people, hence property tax

Bill Harlan 05-23-2020 07:12 AM

Who ever told you life was fair?

Fisherman 05-23-2020 07:13 AM

Right on. Those that replied with snide remarks... eventually, unfortunately, you will wake up one day and find yourself single. And when Social Security tells you that you can only now draw one benefit, yours or your spouses which ever one is larger you will appreciate how being single is in fact an arm of discrimination because of your status. Assuming like me, my husband and I worked all our lives paying in to social security from our paychecks and so did our employers. Then he dies at 66 and half our household income disappears. Our money we paid in to the fund, gone. The Income goes away, but you still have the mortgage, rent, taxes, insurance, utilities etc associated with household expenses. Then you find yourself dipping in to your investments for the shortage. Single people do get penalized in so many ways from taxation to small things like this person has brought up. For me it is a slap in the face as I certainly never expected to be single at such a young age.

Bill Harlan 05-23-2020 07:14 AM

It isn’t discrimination at all . It is a common business practice called quantity discounts. The 1st pays a standard fee the 2nd gets a discount

Bogie Shooter 05-23-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cmeinel@verizon.net (Post 1769509)
What is priority pool membership is it just certain villages?

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Originally Posted by CJMarwal (Post 1769545)
I'd like to know what this is also. We haven't yet moved to TV but planning to do so in 2 years and this is the first time I've heard of a priority pool membership.

Golf The Villages

shortstack 05-23-2020 07:16 AM

Has anyone heard of what they as going to do with Hacienda? I miss the cocktails and karaoke on Sundays.

dewilson58 05-23-2020 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fisherman (Post 1769563)
Right on. Those that replied with snide remarks... eventually, unfortunately, you will wake up one day and find yourself single. And when Social Security tells you that you can only now draw one benefit, yours or your spouses which ever one is larger you will appreciate how being single is in fact an arm of discrimination because of your status. Assuming like me, my husband and I worked all our lives paying in to social security from our paychecks and so did our employers. Then he dies at 66 and half our household income disappears. Our money we paid in to the fund, gone. The Income goes away, but you still have the mortgage, rent, taxes, insurance, utilities etc associated with household expenses. Then you find yourself dipping in to your investments for the shortage. Single people do get penalized in so many ways from taxation to small things like this person has brought up. For me it is a slap in the face as I certainly never expected to be single at such a young age.


Sorry for your loss, but if all the items you listed were based on belly buttons, the rates would increase and overall costs would be approximately the same. As a married person, you would have been paying more over the last 40 years. It's a zero-sum situation.

Michael Charles 05-23-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyh26 (Post 1769409)
Nothing to complain but after reading comments. Moving on😜

So glad you're moving on!

davem4616 05-23-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fisherman (Post 1769563)
Right on. Those that replied with snide remarks... eventually, unfortunately, you will wake up one day and find yourself single. And when Social Security tells you that you can only now draw one benefit, yours or your spouses which ever one is larger you will appreciate how being single is in fact an arm of discrimination because of your status. Assuming like me, my husband and I worked all our lives paying in to social security from our paychecks and so did our employers. Then he dies at 66 and half our household income disappears. Our money we paid in to the fund, gone. The Income goes away, but you still have the mortgage, rent, taxes, insurance, utilities etc associated with household expenses. Then you find yourself dipping in to your investments for the shortage. Single people do get penalized in so many ways from taxation to small things like this person has brought up. For me it is a slap in the face as I certainly never expected to be single at such a young age.

sorry for your loss

jarodrig 05-23-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TandHSTAR@AOL.com (Post 1769530)
Thank you. Pools have water in them no matter. Why a priority pool? I go to the neighborhood pool. I personally cannot buying a priority is worth it. But if that is your choice I cannot see you complaining about the price.

Why priority ?

Perhaps it gives a person a sense of entitlement and privilege......

Or perhaps they enjoy going to a pool that may be less crowded......

We’re priority golf members which automatically includes the priority pools . That gives us a sense of ā€œentitlement and privilegeā€œ ;) when it comes to tee times and reduced green’s fees.

We’ve never been to a priority pool . We have a family pool and a neighborhood pool less than 5 minutes away by golf cart ..... :)

Jayhawk 05-23-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsenholzi (Post 1769490)
You are never going to get sympathy from a couple . They just don’t understand how often singles get screwed. This is just the cream on the pudding. From the fact that they can’t claim head of household with the IRS even though they are, to paying double for a cruise cabin , to paying double for sanitation ( even though they are putting out less trash) , to paying more for a pool membership ( I understand the $130 because when you divide the $260 by 2 , it comes out to $130 each while a single pays $200 no matter what) , to my beach pass when I lived up north ( a family of five paid the same as a single - no breaks) . Even in the stimulus package a couple got double what the single got- it didn’t go by household . Yes, singles get screwed at every turn- yet they are still paying the same mortgage , fees , taxes, sanitation , Water, amenities, Etc. as everyone else. Stop attacking her and open your eyes people. It pays to be a couple.

The complainers need to open their eyes and READ how it works. Yes, I am part of a couple, but if my wife joins the Priority Pool and I DO NOT, she pays $200. There is no option anywhere for $130 as half a couple.

Some people just like to find something to rag about.

17362 05-23-2020 08:53 AM

I started a FT job at 15, paid into SS every year, at 50 my husband demands/ needs grew to the point I gave up working. We have been living on one income for the last 10 years. 2 people one income. I am 56. He is 60 with terminal cancer. We have one income. Yes I see your point and it’s not ā€œfairā€ - one strong thing has Been pointed out to me: Life is not fair. I get reminded all the time. A pool membership is a luxury. There are many we have had to do without because of the unfair pricing in place but it has become common practice in today’s society to give a ā€œdiscountā€ for a second at same address. I will soon be widowed and single. Paying the same as two for property taxes, amenity fees, garbage, etc. but we have had ONE income all this time and SS will not let me claim both SS. Also mention that SS has changed thanks to the people voting in people to make it an entitlement, instead of a benefit accrued in your lifetime. So I hope at least that illegal moving here at 65 enjoys my SS.
So yes a single person will feel the impact of ā€œthe manyā€ decisions, as always... and it’s not fair.
I sympathize- really do and I myself say to myself ā€œGet over it or make a changeā€ but after my struggles of things being ā€œnot fairā€, it’s futile and I just want to be happy. So I see luxuries as such and IF we can afford we do, if not. We don’t. Ebb and flow.... Seen it a lot in my lifetime.


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