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Taltarzac725 05-26-2020 07:48 AM

Happy Birthday John Wayne May 26.
 
John Wayne - Rotten Tomatoes

I have seen about 2/3s of his movies.

Some of them were very entertaining.

Stu from NYC 05-26-2020 07:56 AM

So many outstanding movies

Two Bills 05-26-2020 07:57 AM

"The Hell you have!" :crap2:

Byte1 05-26-2020 10:38 AM

Hate to burst your bubble, but Marion is dead.

John_W 05-26-2020 10:49 AM

My guess is "600 Photo sq" hasn't seen this thread yet.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ght=john+wayne

manaboutown 05-26-2020 11:10 AM

20 years or so ago I happened to be in a small store in Costa Mesa, CA and overheard a conversation between a retired cop and the owner. A few years before the cop had stopped an older bald headed fellow driving a station wagon to ticket him for a traffic violation. The cop looked at the man's drivers license and tells him he looked familiar. The response was "Ya ever been to the movies?". The cop of course recognized the voice. lol. John Wayne had his real name on the driver's license. He used to live on the Back Bay in Newport Beach with his wife, Pilar. Oh - the cop said he let him go!

John_W 05-26-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1771440)
...The cop of course recognized the voice. lol. John Wayne had his real name on the driver's license. He used to live on the Back Bay in Newport Beach with his wife, Pilar. Oh - the cop said he let him go!

You can recognize some people just by their voice, and even over the radio. I was working in St. Pete/Clearwater Tower one night about 1975 and a Beech Baron, a high performance twin, was inbound for landing. When I talked to him, I knew right away it was Arthur Godfrey. After he landed and taxied in, I said I'm going down to the ramp. I walked up the aircraft when the door opened it was Arthur Godfrey flying by himself a twin at night and he was in his early 70's. I asked if he needed a hand, and helped carry in his bags.

https://www.nndb.com/people/613/000065418/godfrey4.jpg

manaboutown 05-26-2020 11:25 AM

Arthur Godfrey did have a distinctive voice! I bet he was a good guy, too.

davem4616 05-26-2020 12:15 PM

When John Wayne passed Pratt & Whitney took out a full page in the WSJ with the following:


Duke, we're gonna miss ya

When you came riding into town, varmints scrambled, dance hall girls powdered their noses, and yellow-bellies ran for the hills.
You ambled into our hearts, stiffened our spines, and made us stand taller.
From the sands of Iwo Jima to the gates of the Alamo, you taught us all a lesson.
Sure, your movies were play-acting.
But they showed that our true strength is in our people.
The worker on the production line, the fighting man, truck driver, waitress, miner, farmer, nurse, cowboy.
Wherever you’re going, Duke, roll yourself a smoke, take a slug of whiskey, lean back, put a thumb under your suspenders –
and take pride that you taught us the true meaning of grit.
John Wayne gave more to America than he took from America.
How many of us can say the same?

Stu from NYC 05-26-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1771478)
When John Wayne passed Pratt & Whitney took out a full page in the WSJ with the following:


Duke, we're gonna miss ya

When you came riding into town, varmints scrambled, dance hall girls powdered their noses, and yellow-bellies ran for the hills.
You ambled into our hearts, stiffened our spines, and made us stand taller.
From the sands of Iwo Jima to the gates of the Alamo, you taught us all a lesson.
Sure, your movies were play-acting.
But they showed that our true strength is in our people.
The worker on the production line, the fighting man, truck driver, waitress, miner, farmer, nurse, cowboy.
Wherever you’re going, Duke, roll yourself a smoke, take a slug of whiskey, lean back, put a thumb under your suspenders –
and take pride that you taught us the true meaning of grit.
John Wayne gave more to America than he took from America.
How many of us can say the same?

Thanks for sharing

600th Photo Sq 05-26-2020 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1771478)
When John Wayne passed Pratt & Whitney took out a full page in the WSJ with the following:


Duke, we're gonna miss ya

When you came riding into town, varmints scrambled, dance hall girls powdered their noses, and yellow-bellies ran for the hills.
You ambled into our hearts, stiffened our spines, and made us stand taller.
From the sands of Iwo Jima to the gates of the Alamo, you taught us all a lesson.
Sure, your movies were play-acting.
But they showed that our true strength is in our people.
The worker on the production line, the fighting man, truck driver, waitress, miner, farmer, nurse, cowboy.
Wherever you’re going, Duke, roll yourself a smoke, take a slug of whiskey, lean back, put a thumb under your suspenders –
and take pride that you taught us the true meaning of grit.
John Wayne gave more to America than he took from America.
How many of us can say the same?

Just exactly what did Mr. Wayne give to America especially during World War II, and after the War ? :shocked:

Stu from NYC 05-26-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1771557)
Just exactly what did Mr. Wayne give to America especially during World War II, and after the War ? :shocked:

Patriotism

manaboutown 05-26-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1771557)
Just exactly what did Mr. Wayne give to America especially during World War II, and after the War ? :shocked:

Well, he starred in 142 movies, some of which are iconic war movies and inspire patriotism. Some romanticize our nation's frontier heritage, a source of national pride and identity. Many foreigners think of Monument Valley as John Wayne Country so his movies have helped the Navajo Nation economically by generating tourism. I could go on...

600th Photo Sq 05-26-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1771577)
Patriotism

You want to put this guy on a pedestal go right ahead.

Truth be told he avoided Military Service through a so called football injury. Well 2 weeks before the War ended he was declared A1A.

Mr. Wayne was a 2 pack a day Drunk by 2:00 PM most of his films were done in the AM.

Ask yourself what was J. Wayne doing on " D Day ". Likely Drunk. While smoking a Camel.

He was no better than the Jane Fonda crowd. A total phony.

Years later he attended a reception at the White House to honor the Hanoi Hilton POW's, and had the nerve to sit at the very table with Commander Alvereze the longest person to be in the Hanoi Hilton . No shame, After all he was John Wayne the movie star of the 40's who rode horses fought off bandits, rustlers, Indians, and later on the Japanese on Iwo Jima.

Then onto Vietnam. Oh yes he did it all.

John Wayne had no shame, no guilt, and went about his life adored to this day by individuals like you. Falling off horses, playing hero's, meanwhile …. believe what you like.

Meanwhile their is a statue of Mr. Wayne at the Fort Benning main Gate . Why not Audi Murphy.

John Houston promoted this clown and pulled in many favors to keep out of the military.

Stu from NYC 05-26-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1771596)
You want to put this guy on a pedestal go right ahead.

Truth be told he avoided Military Service through a so called football injury. Well 2 weeks before the War ended he was declared A1A.

Mr. Wayne was a 2 pack a day Drunk by 2:00 PM most of his films were done in the AM.

Ask yourself what was J. Wayne doing on " D Day ". Likely Drunk. While smoking a Camel.

He was no better than the Jane Fonda crowd. A total phony.

Years later he attended a reception at the White House to honor the Hanoi Hilton POW's, and had the nerve to sit at the very table with Commander Alvereze the longest person to be in the Hanoi Hilton . No shame, After all he was John Wayne the movie star of the 40's who rode horses fought off bandits, rustlers, Indians, and later on the Japanese on Iwo Jima.

Then onto Vietnam. Oh yes he did it all.

John Wayne had no shame, no guilt, and went about his life adored to this day by individuals like you. Falling off horses, playing hero's, meanwhile …. believe what you like.

Meanwhile their is a statue of Mr. Wayne at the Fort Benning main Gate . Why not Audi Murphy.

John Houston promoted this clown and pulled in many favors to keep out of the military.

Never heard any of this before

davem4616 05-27-2020 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1771596)
You want to put this guy on a pedestal go right ahead.

Truth be told he avoided Military Service through a so called football injury. Well 2 weeks before the War ended he was declared A1A.

Mr. Wayne was a 2 pack a day Drunk by 2:00 PM most of his films were done in the AM.

Ask yourself what was J. Wayne doing on " D Day ". Likely Drunk. While smoking a Camel.

He was no better than the Jane Fonda crowd. A total phony.

Years later he attended a reception at the White House to honor the Hanoi Hilton POW's, and had the nerve to sit at the very table with Commander Alvereze the longest person to be in the Hanoi Hilton . No shame, After all he was John Wayne the movie star of the 40's who rode horses fought off bandits, rustlers, Indians, and later on the Japanese on Iwo Jima.

Then onto Vietnam. Oh yes he did it all.

John Wayne had no shame, no guilt, and went about his life adored to this day by individuals like you. Falling off horses, playing hero's, meanwhile …. believe what you like.

Meanwhile their is a statue of Mr. Wayne at the Fort Benning main Gate . Why not Audi Murphy.

John Houston promoted this clown and pulled in many favors to keep out of the military.



Wow...glad that you were able to get all of this stuff that you've been carrying around off your chest.

Stu from NYC 05-27-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1771674)
Wow...glad that you were able to get all of this stuff that you've been carrying around off your chest.

But is any of this true?

manaboutown 05-27-2020 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1771596)

Truth be told he avoided Military Service through a so called football injury. Well 2 weeks before the War ended he was declared A1A.

Actually he lost his football scholarship at USC from a body surfing injury. John Wayne - Wikipedia

davem4616 05-27-2020 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1771711)
But is any of this true?




some 'half truths'

Duke did smoke, he did drink and he never served in the military...albeit he tried to enlist early on and toward the end of WWII he tried again to enlist

I like his movies...and what I believe he stood for

CWGUY 05-27-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1771674)
Wow...glad that you were able to get all of this stuff that you've been carrying around off your chest.

:ohdear:Not the first time ...... can't be healthy! :)

Stu from NYC 05-27-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1771727)
some 'half truths'

Duke did smoke, he did drink and he never served in the military...albeit he tried to enlist early on and toward the end of WWII he tried again to enlist

I like his movies...and what I believe he stood for

Agreed

manaboutown 05-27-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1771727)
some 'half truths'

Duke did smoke, he did drink and he never served in the military...albeit he tried to enlist early on and toward the end of WWII he tried again to enlist

I like his movies...and what I believe he stood for

He was born in May of 1907 so was what, 34 years of age when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, 37 on D-Day?

IMHO his movies accomplished more for American morale during wartime than he could have accomplished as an anonymous single middle aged soldier.

He was 10 - 11 years old during WWI, a little young to enlist.

Likely a majority of adult males smoked during most of his adult life, up until around 1964. His smoking was not unusual or even frowned upon in those days. It was considered sociable. (ugh)

A lot of hard liquor used to be consumed, at least in the movies, along with a lot of cigarette smoking. During my 20s and 30s the "three martini lunch" on a salesman's expense account was pretty common.

fdpaq0580 05-27-2020 10:52 AM

John Wayne.
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1771340)
John Wayne - Rotten Tomatoes

I have seen about 2/3s of his movies.

Some of them were very entertaining.

He was and still is an icon. I liked the characters he usually portrayed, a little rough around the edges, heroic types. As has been said earlier, he probably did far more from a morale standpoint than he could have done by joining up. Think of Bob Hope entertaining the troups vs Bob Hope with an M1 or swabbing a deck.
As to his movies, I have and enjoy a few of his old "cliffhanger" serials like "The Hurricane Express" and "The Three Mesquiteers". Good, old fashioned fun.


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