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ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 09:31 AM

Drew Brees Apologizes
 
It takes a big man, who is showing true leadership...to do this. :thumbup:

Drew Brees Apologizes (click here)

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Drew Brees has issued an apology after receiving major blowback for his comments regarding the #TakeAKnee movement in the NFL, just over a week after the killing of George Floyd in police custody.

The New Orleans Saints quarterback came under fire by many for saying in an interview with Yahoo Sports, published Wednesday, that he "will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States" when asked about the movement that Colin Kaepernick started in 2016.

Brees, 41, shared a lengthy Instagram post on Thursday to apologize for his comments, alongside a photo of a white person and a black person clasping hands.

"I would like to apologize to my friends, teammates, the City of New Orleans, the black community, NFL community, and anyone I hurt with my comments yesterday," the athlete wrote. "In speaking with some of you, it breaks my heart to know the pain I have caused."

"In an attempt to talk about respect, unity, and solidarity centered around the American flag and the national anthem, I made comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark on the issues we are facing right now as a country," he continued. "They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy. Instead, those words have become divisive and hurtful and have misled people into believing that somehow I am an enemy. This could not be further from the truth, and is not an accurate reflection of my heart or my character."


daddymac1127 06-04-2020 10:09 AM

I was taught not to desecrate or dishonor the American Flag. To me Kneeling during the national anthem is doing just that. If we allow anyone to do whatever they want as long as they can later justify it because of an injustice or disagreement won't we have anarchy at some point?

I just wish that the football players had used another means to show Black Lives matter.

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1777147)
I was taught not to desecrate or dishonor the American Flag. To me Kneeling during the national anthem is doing just that. If we allow anyone to do whatever they want as long as they can later justify it because of an injustice or disagreement won't we have anarchy at some point?

I just wish that the football players had used another means to show Black Lives matter.

Just like Brees did initially, you've totally missed the whole point. :oops:

I'm also curious, as to your suggestion(s) on what other "means" should be used to show that..."Black Lives matter?"


:popcorn:

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-04-2020 10:20 AM

The flag is a symbol used by many groups to push there causes for good and bad example for bad , 100 flags outside a used car dealer and for good what Colin did. His act while unpopular by some created more awareness, volunteers and money for social justice programs are in America but apparently not enough . He was never disrespecting the flag . I fought for freedom for all people to be able peacefully protest against whatever Injustice they feel.

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 10:31 AM

Our flag is sacred and should never be disrespected in any manner at all.

Other ways to protest.

GoodLife 06-04-2020 10:48 AM

Nobody cares what celebrities, athletes, musicians have to say. Their ability to throw a spiral or make faces for the camera have nothing to do with making sound moral decisions.

Drew's agent probably told him his sponsors were getting blowback so make an apology. Big whoop.

manaboutown 06-04-2020 11:15 AM

He was faced with losing all the millions he was making from playing football and sponsorships. His original statement came from the heart. His apology was from his pocketbook. No doubt there were threats on his life and his family from the assortment of America hating thugs who are out to destroy civilization as well.

JimJohnson 06-04-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1777147)
I was taught not to desecrate or dishonor the American Flag. To me Kneeling during the national anthem is doing just that. If we allow anyone to do whatever they want as long as they can later justify it because of an injustice or disagreement won't we have anarchy at some point?

I just wish that the football players had used another means to show Black Lives matter.

I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.:pray:

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1777190)
He was faced with losing all the millions he was making from playing football and sponsorships. His original statement came from the heart. His apology was from his pocketbook. No doubt there were threats on his life and his family from the assortment of America hating thugs who are out to destroy civilization as well.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

billethkid 06-04-2020 11:47 AM

If they were truly genuine in their beliefs and comments they would not have to walk back or apologize after getting electronic social feed back.

In my opinion, a major problem in too much of the communicating of today.

wisbad1 06-04-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777116)
It takes a big man, who is showing true leadership...to do this. :thumbup:

Drew Brees Apologizes (click here)

Should never apologise,

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1777208)
If they were truly genuine in their beliefs and comments they would not have to walk back or apologize after getting electronic social feed back.

In my opinion, a major problem in too much of the communicating of today.

So no one is allowed to change their minds, or to acknowledge and admit...that they might have had it wrong initially?

That people should always stay with their original/knee-jerk comments and should never show "weakness"...by admitting they might have been wrong?

Even though it takes real leadership and a spine...to admit to being wrong?

And that there is too much press/media...reporting on what is REALLY occurring?


WOW...just wow.
:ohdear:

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 12:22 PM

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What is said here, is that the military pledges their allegiance to the Constitution Of The United States and US citizens...NOT to any single person or party.

Good for those who had the courage, patriotism and spine...to put out and sign this.
:thumbup:

Taltarzac725 06-04-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1777201)
I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.:pray:

I too respect this man's courage even if he has done some bone-headed things along with them.

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1777219)
Should never apologise,


Since this attitude is a major root of so many of our current problems...this bears repeating.
:ohdear:

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777221)
So no one is allowed to change their minds, or to acknowledge and admit...that they might have had it wrong initially?

That people should always stay with their original/knee-jerk comments and should never show "weakness"...by admitting they might have been wrong?

Even though it takes real leadership and a spine...to admit to being wrong?

WOW...just wow
.
:ohdear:


OrangeBlossomBaby 06-04-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1777147)
I was taught not to desecrate or dishonor the American Flag. To me Kneeling during the national anthem is doing just that. If we allow anyone to do whatever they want as long as they can later justify it because of an injustice or disagreement won't we have anarchy at some point?

I just wish that the football players had used another means to show Black Lives matter.

The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1777240)
The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

Well stated...and dead on. :thumbup:

daddymac1127 06-04-2020 01:00 PM

A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

daddymac1127 06-04-2020 01:06 PM

I never said that did not agree with justice and liberty for all.

I agree with Black Lives Matter. Everyone's life matters and all needed to be treated equal.

I said other means can be used to protest or bring light to a very important cause.

VOTING is a very powerful tool in this Country. Spending and campaigning for a cause to
educate voters. This happens every 4 years when we elect a President. Look how much money is spent during that period.

JimJohnson 06-04-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1777253)
A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

I hav NOT, but if it would help set things right, I would.

BS Beef 06-04-2020 02:34 PM

What is he apologizing for?

What professional athlete has done more for a city (any city, any sport) through their acts or financially?
I'll wait.....

daddymac1127 06-04-2020 02:41 PM

I agree Drew shouldn't apologize. He didn't like to see the Flag and our country dishonored. No country is perfect; no human being is perfect.

New Englander 06-04-2020 02:48 PM

Black lives matter. Except when it's blacks killing blacks.

John_W 06-04-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777150)
Just like Brees did initially, you've totally missed the whole point.

Drew Brees is one of the few bright spots in the NFL. You can't miss the point when you speak your own heart. He had it right the first time and got 63,000,000 new fans. Now, it's a backtrack because he plays in a league that is 80% black.

https://i2.wp.com/www.sportsgossip.c...80%2C637&ssl=1

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1777349)
Drew Brees is one of the few bright spots in the NFL. You can't miss the point when you speak your own heart. He had it right the first time and got 63,000,000 new fans. Now, it's a backtrack because he plays in a league that is 80% black.

https://i2.wp.com/www.sportsgossip.c...80%2C637&ssl=1

Agreed.

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1777336)
Black lives matter. Except when it's blacks killing blacks.

Sad that nobody wants to talk about that.

GoodLife 06-04-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1777372)
Sad that nobody wants to talk about that.

Black on Black murders blow up their entire agenda.

JoMar 06-04-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1777201)
I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.:pray:

What he did was take those 22 years you served and threw it in your face....as a defender of that flag you should never give a pass to anyone that discredits the flag, what it stands for and all those that served to defend it. I agree he had an incredibly important issue, and it still it is, but using the deaths of those that served is, IMO, not the way.

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1777421)
What he did was take those 22 years you served and threw it in your face....as a defender of that flag you should never give a pass to anyone that discredits the flag, what it stands for and all those that served to defend it. I agree he had an incredibly important issue, and it still it is, but using the deaths of those that served is, IMO, not the way.

Well said

JoMar 06-04-2020 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1777240)
The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

It is also "under God", but that doesn't fly with those that want it removed from the pledge. Freedom of religion is also a constitutional right. Kneeling does not facilitate "liberty and justice" for all, it seperates. Dialogue through finding common cause will advance the cause, kneeling will not. MO

anothersteve 06-04-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777482)
That line was added to the pledge in 1954, 62 years AFTER... the Pledge of Allegiance was written.


OK, I'll bite......so?
Steve

Northwoods 06-04-2020 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BS Beef (Post 1777325)
What is he apologizing for?

What professional athlete has done more for a city (any city, any sport) through their acts or financially?
I'll wait.....

JJ Watt. He started with $100,000 of his own money and ended up raising a record $41.6 million for Hurricane Harvey recovery efforts. The crowd-sourced fundraising campaign has become the largest of its kind.

He doesn't live in Houston, he lives in a small town in WI. But he plays for the Houston Texans. He's a wonderful person. I have so much respect for him.

Marvic 1 06-04-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1777240)
The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

Their is Liberty and Justice for ALL, just that their is a percentage in ALL ethnic groups that don't care for one another and that can not be changed at this time...
Maybe 50 years from now when everyone is basically equally educated, have fathers in the home, dignity and respect then things might look up for the better...

.......... ALL LIVES MATTER ..........

Bob in Fishers 06-05-2020 04:41 AM

Nothing to apologize for

Miguel 1952 06-05-2020 05:25 AM

Do not disrespect our flag! 🇺🇸
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1777163)
Our flag is sacred and should never be disrespected in any manner at all.

Other ways to protest.

Many ways to protest, kneeling for our National Anthem is a disgrace and I will never condone it. I will not apologize for feeling this way.

DrBrutyle109 06-05-2020 05:34 AM

Typical. You only have the right to say something if your on the same side as the people who are complaining. Even if you both sides have a point

Heyitsrick 06-05-2020 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1777201)
I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.:pray:

I'm a four-year honorably discharged Vietnam War era veteran. There's no issue whatsoever of highlighting an important cause. It's the manner in which he chose to do it.

What many people seem to forget is that we all do have constitutionally guaranteed rights. And those rights absolutely include disagreeing with - and voicing disagreement with - the actions of others. If a person chooses to act in a certain way, that person must accept that he/she will possibly be judged by those actions. That's part of the deal.

Kaepernick's the same guy who tweeted this out in January after the drone strike on Iran's General Soleimani:

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Originally Posted by Colin Kaepernick
There is nothing new about American terrorist attacks against Black and Brown people for the expansion of American imperialism. America has always sanctioned and besieged Black and Brown bodies both at home and abroad. America militarism is the weapon wielded by American imperialism, to enforce its policing and plundering of the non-white world.

Call me crazy, but if I had a career in military service, I'd take that as an unequivocal insult to both me and my country. But hey, that's just me.

And now he's essentially promoting violence over the George Floyd murder:

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Originally Posted by Colin Kaepernick
When civility leads to death, revolting is the only logical reaction. The cries for peace will rain down, and when they do, they will land on deaf ears, because your violence has brought this resistance. We have the right to fight back!


camaguey48 06-05-2020 05:49 AM

This person (who shall remain nameless) who plays football for a living should have stayed silent if he was going to take back his comments which I thought came from his heart. Now he is just a mealy mouthed coward. I suppose that his receivers would drop his passes on purpose and his blockers would somehow miss their block as payback, not to mention the millions he would lose in endorsements. Should have kept his mealy mouth shut. Now I know who you really are Mr. Quarterback. Go find your spine.

coalminer 06-05-2020 05:59 AM

Kaepernick was simply trying to get a message out in a peaceful way. Of course the racists ignored the message by wrapping themselves in the flag. Now we have hundreds of cities across America witnessing the effect of that. The country is in turmoil and only we can stop it. It's time we recognize that white privilege is real

alfredpopcorn@gmail.com 06-05-2020 06:00 AM

Yea sure lol


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