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graciegirl 06-04-2020 09:57 AM

Several police officers killed within 9 day span, last year about this time.
 
I was looking for positive proof of something I read on Facebook that a police officer was killed yesterday as part of the rioting after the George Floyd murder.

I didn't find it immediately, maybe someone else has the link...I read too that a Police officer was knifed in Brooklyn but not killed, yesterday..

Anyhow, I found this from CNN from last year about this time;

5 police officers were killed in 9 days - CNN

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 10:32 AM

The media will not care as it does not support its message

Bogie Shooter 06-04-2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1777164)
The media will not care as it does not support its message

What a big wide brush...…….

graciegirl 06-04-2020 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1777209)
What a big wide brush...…….

Bogie. That was a lot of police officers that died last year in a short time. I wonder if anyone you know personally is a police officer?

I don't know any, NOW. But my uncle and grandfather were police officers when I was growing up. I didn't know anyone at all that ran afoul of the law or who was in prison. I have observed that both Uncle Paul, my dad's younger brother and my grandfather, all of his life were law abiding. Uncle Paul could drink beer pretty well with the rest of the German family, but I don't recall my grandfather drinking at all. Certainly no drugs for either of them.

We often feel comfortable with situations that we have some personal reference to. That may be the reason I am inclined to believe that this awful hatred extending to many innocent police officers and other races is wrong and very, very, unfair and sad.

Bucco 06-04-2020 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1777300)
Bogie. That was a lot of police officers that died last year in a short time. I wonder if anyone you know personally is a police officer?

I don't know any, NOW. But my uncle and grandfather were police officers when I was growing up. I didn't know anyone at all that ran afowl of the law or who was in prison. I have observed that both Uncle Paul, my dad's younger brother and my grandfather, all of his life were law abiding. Uncle Paul could drink beer pretty well with the rest of the German family, but I don't recall my grandfather drinking at all. Certainly no drugs for either of them.

We often feel comfortable with situations that we have some personal reference to. That may be the reason I am inclined to believe that this awful hatred extending to many innocent police officers and other races is wrong and very, very, unfair and sad.

Explain and detail this hate being extended to police in general. Police through the world have been commenting and criticizing....you say how you know so many police..,why do you object to the worlds police ?

I have been in attendance at a few national police conferences....I have no need to tell you how I feel. I have posted hiw I feel about police, and the everlasting respect for them. You choose to ignore and keep beating to change the subject.

graciegirl 06-04-2020 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1777164)
The media will not care as it does not support its message

It certainly seems that way. I tried to find some facts that are certainly public record and the record has been thoroughly gone over. I think you can request a removal of information from some of the browsers. I didn't know that until today.

I have lots to learn.

Two Bills 06-04-2020 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777280)
Yep, par for the course. Short on any facts, long on accusations.

Keep in mind...this entire thread ( and the subject is certainly valid and worthy) is another step to change the subject.

No listening or discussing the reasons for any of it....no discussions on the inane reactions....no espouse to the overwhelming facts that much of this lies at the feet of far right wing terrorists,

who have yet to be criticized in here (that I saw anyway)

You also seem a little short on publishing your overwhelming facts as well.
I have seen allegations, suggestions, even some well thought out theories on and in the media, that left and right wing groups, even the Russians are involved in fermenting the discord, but have yet to see overwhelming facts to the truth of any such stories.

Bucco 06-04-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1777318)
who have yet to be criticized in here (that I saw anyway)

You also seem a little short on publishing your overwhelming facts as well.
I have seen allegations, suggestions, even some well thought out theories on and in the media, that left and right wing groups, even the Russians are involved in fermenting the discord, but have yet to see overwhelming facts to the truth of any such stories.

"Three former US servicemen and self-proclaimed members of the far-right "boogaloo" movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges and accused of carrying unregistered firearms and trying to spark violence during protests against police brutality."

Right-wing '''Boogaloo''' men arrested on terror charges, conspiracy to incite violence - Business Insider

Right-wing extremists planned riots at Las Vegas protests: feds

Bucco 06-04-2020 02:31 PM

"As demonstrations spread from Minneapolis to the White House, New York City and overseas, federal law enforcement officials insisted far-left groups were stoking violence. Meanwhile, experts who track extremist groups also reported seeing evidence of the far-right at work.

Investigators were also tracking online interference and looking into whether foreign agents were behind the effort. Officials have seen a surge of social media accounts with fewer than 200 followers created in the last month, a textbook sign of a disinformation effort."

Officials see extremist groups, disinformation in protests - StarTribune.com

Two Bills 06-04-2020 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777321)
"Three former US servicemen and self-proclaimed members of the far-right "boogaloo" movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges and accused of carrying unregistered firearms and trying to spark violence during protests against police brutality."

Right-wing '''Boogaloo''' men arrested on terror charges, conspiracy to incite violence - Business Insider

Right-wing extremists planned riots at Las Vegas protests: feds

I have read that, and reports accusing left wing Antifar activists.
Involvement along with others with vested interests, without a doubt
But 'overwhelming' evidence that this whole episode was a right or left wing plot, I think not.

Bucco 06-04-2020 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1777333)
I have read that, and reports accusing left wing Antifar activists.
Involvement along with others with vested interests, without a doubt
But 'overwhelming' evidence that this whole episode was a right or left wing plot, I think not.

I don't ever remember sYing "overwhelming" , but nonetheless I am sure that non existent organization BUT certainly a movement called Antifa is involved. Point is, some do not seem the least bit concerned about that. Some do not even discuss the REASON the protests exist.

The effort on this forum to switch to defending police officers is not only suspicious, but unnecessary. Suddenly, we have a thread about nothing but switching the subject...saying the facts have been "thoroughly gone over".

What does that mean and WHO went "over it" ?

John_W 06-04-2020 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777321)
"Three former US servicemen and self-proclaimed members of the far-right "boogaloo" movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges and accused of carrying unregistered firearms and trying to spark violence during protests against police brutality."

Right-wing '''Boogaloo''' men arrested on terror charges, conspiracy to incite violence - Business Insider

Right-wing extremists planned riots at Las Vegas protests: feds

Those are the same ones you posted two days ago, I guess no more right-wingers have been arrested. As I told you then, I'll tell you now, for every right-wing group arrested there will be 1,000 left wingers arrested for vandalism, violence, rioting, looting, murder and disorderly conduct, in fact I can meet that bet in just one city. Chicago has arrested 1,500 rioters.

GoodLife 06-04-2020 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1777209)
What a big wide brush...…….

When you are painting a media that's 80% or more of a particular persuasion, you need a wide brush.

Two Bills 06-04-2020 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777353)
I don't ever remember sYing "overwhelming" , but nonetheless I am sure that non existent organization BUT certainly a movement called Antifa is involved. Point is, some do not ....................
What does that mean and WHO went "over it" ?

From your original post, that for some reason has disappeared

Originally Posted by Bucco View Post
.No listening or discussing the reasons for any of it....no discussions on the inane reactions....no espouse to the overwhelming facts that much of this lies at the feet of far right wing terrorists,

Number 10 GI 06-04-2020 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1777209)
What a big wide brush...…….

No wider than the one used to paint those opposed to the rioters and anarchists as racists, homophobes and all the other isms. :ohdear:

Number 10 GI 06-04-2020 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777305)
Explain and detail this hate being extended to police in general. Police through the world have been commenting and criticizing....you say how you know so many police..,why do you object to the worlds police ?

I have been in attendance at a few national police conferences....I have no need to tell you how I feel. I have posted hiw I feel about police, and the everlasting respect for them. You choose to ignore and keep beating to change the subject.

You obviously haven't been reading some of the posts on this forum by members claiming the police are all racists and thugs. No I'm not going to list them for you, I've already read them.

mamamia54 06-04-2020 04:30 PM

In New York, one officer was stabbed in the neck and two were shot while trying to protect business from looters. Maybe that’s what you heard about. Thankfully, no one died.

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1777379)
You obviously haven't been reading some of the posts on this forum by members claiming the police are all racists and thugs. No I'm not going to list them for you, I've already read them.

Show even ONE post claiming that ALL police are "racists/thugs"...or admit you just made it up. :oops:

Number 10 GI 06-04-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777398)
Show even ONE post claiming that ALL police are "racists/thugs"...or admit you just made it up. :oops:

Go back and read some of your own posts.

Get real 06-04-2020 05:26 PM

Why do liberals always have to make everything about race? White guilt? Inferiority complex?

Why do most law abiding citizens support the police and not try to perpetuate the police brutality myth?

Why do most cops not want to work with other cops that are trouble? Why do most cops turn in bad cops?

Please respond with facts and not the Nazi rhetoric. (I know it's tough :icon_wink:)

GoodLife 06-04-2020 06:08 PM

Here’s a List of the Police Killed or Injured During the Last Week’s Violence (this is what some call a "distraction")

3 dead so far, 2 of these were Black Officers

Police have been shot, stabbed, run over, and hit with objects across the country since the death of George Floyd during the custody of Minneapolis Police. These injuries and deaths have been unreported by the national media.
– A Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer, Shay Mikalonis, age 29, was shot in the back of the head while struggling with a rioter. It appears that Mikalonis survived brain-surgery, but he will likely never be the same after the attack.
– 12 other Las Vegas police were injured during the riots.
– An active shooter also opened fire on law enforcement at a Las Vegas courthouse.
– 4 St. Louis Police Officers were shot by an active shooter—thankfully, all four are out of hospital.
– A retired St. Louis police captain, David Dorn, was protecting a friend’s store from rioters and looters. They shot him while stealing “TVs.” A shocking video, livestreamed on Facebook, shows the 77-year-old black American laying in a pool of blood. Dorn’s death was little-covered in the national corporate media.
– A New York Police Officer was struck purposefully by a vehicle. He is currently in “serious but stable condition.”
– 3 Buffalo law enforcement officers were struck by a vehicle in front of the police station. 2 officers are now seriously hurt, and two civilians died from shootings that were not related to the police.
-3 Davenport, Iowa, law enforcement officers were ambushed and 1 was shot. 2 civilians were killed in the attempted killing of the police officer, including a young black woman.
– 132 officers were injured in Chicago during a riot. During that riot, there were 48 shootings and 17 homicides. It is likely that many of the homicide victims were black Americans.
– 9 Pittsburg officers were injured by objects during a riot.
– Up to a dozen officers in Rhode Island were injured during riots
– An active shooter opened fire at the Oakland Police Department. At the federal court house in Oakland, the scene of an anti-police protest, two officers were shot in a drive-by shooting. One of those men, Federal Protective Service Officer Dave Patrick Underwood, was shot dead. Underwood is a black American, and first and foremost, a hero.
– 2 officers were struck in the head with projectiles in Santa Ana.
– 2 Richmond, Virginia officers were shot. One of these officers has life-threatening injuries.
– At least 5 officers and 2 firefighters were injured during riots in Richland County South Carolina.
– 1 officer was struck in the head by a brick in Albany, New York. The suspect, an overweight white male aged 21, is now in custody.
– 4 Prince William County, Virginia officers sustained head injuries from projectiles, including large rocks.
– 7 officers were injured in Sacramento.
– Several officers were shot at and injured in Lynchburg, Virginia.
– Several Champaign, Illinois police officers were injured during protests that turned into a riot.
– 3 Oak Lawn, Illinois officers were injured.
– 21 officers were injured in Salt Lake City. What appears to be a mostly white crowd threw rocks and other objects at the officers.
– More than 50 Secret Service Agents were injured by objects thrown—including Molotov cocktails—in Washington, D.C. The “protestors” appeared to be trying to breach the White House fence.
– 3 Denver police officers were in a police Rapid Deployment Vehicle (RDV) when they were purposefully slammed by another vehicle. The impact also hurt a civilian standing nearby. The status of the civilian is not yet known, and one of the officers is still in the hospital.
– Well over 40 New York City police officers have been injured during riots, some severely. Multiple officers have been shot, stabbed, or hit with heavy objects. The latest incident involved a knife wielding attacker who stabbed an officer in the neck, and two other officers who were shot—one in the hands.
Videos from New York, that don’t appear to be widely reported in the media, show a cop getting slammed in the head with a heavy object, from behind, and a cop laying on the street after being shot.
– Multiple Atlanta, Georgia officers were injured during protests. One officer, a black American named Max Brewer, was run over by an ATV. The vehicle appears to have circled back in order to run him over. He remains in critical condition.
– 2 Capitol Police Officers were injured during a riot in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. According to pictures from the riot, it appears that some protestors attacked the officers. In one picture, a white man with long hair appears to be trying to attack officers wearing riot gear.

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1777432)
Here’s a List...

Link/Source?

GoodLife 06-04-2020 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777434)
Link/Source?

multiple sources, linked in blue in the article

Here’s a List of the Police Killed or Injured During the Last Week’s Violence - Alpha News

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1777435)


Thank you.

In the future, instead of just cut/paste, please include the source...so people can validate the info.

And by the way, I fully condemn every single one of these violent acts...toward law enforcement officers.

Get real 06-04-2020 06:40 PM

You can't condemn acts against law enforcement and then condemn law enforcement.

Bogie Shooter 06-04-2020 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1777164)
The media will not care as it does not support its message

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1777209)
What a big wide brush...…….

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1777300)
Bogie. That was a lot of police officers that died last year in a short time. I wonder if anyone you know personally is a police officer?

I don't know any, NOW. But my uncle and grandfather were police officers when I was growing up. I didn't know anyone at all that ran afoul of the law or who was in prison. I have observed that both Uncle Paul, my dad's younger brother and my grandfather, all of his life were law abiding. Uncle Paul could drink beer pretty well with the rest of the German family, but I don't recall my grandfather drinking at all. Certainly no drugs for either of them.

We often feel comfortable with situations that we have some personal reference to. That may be the reason I am inclined to believe that this awful hatred extending to many innocent police officers and other races is wrong and very, very, unfair and sad.

The point I was trying to make ( a poor attempt I guess), the generalization of the media. Not all media.......

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1777445)
You can't condemn acts against law enforcement and then condemn law enforcement.


Say what? :oops:

With an entity so large, of course you can condemn the acts of some of the entity...while also condemning acts of others toward them.
:ohdear:

Girlcopper 06-05-2020 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1777140)
I was looking for positive proof of something I read on Facebook that a police officer was killed yesterday as part of the rioting after the George Floyd murder.

I didn't find it immediately, maybe someone else has the link...I read too that a Police officer was knifed in Brooklyn but not killed, yesterday..

Anyhow, I found this from CNN from last year about this time;

5 police officers were killed in 9 days - CNN

Numerous police in new york and many other states have been killed or seriously injured from the riots. NEw York alone had several killed. Just google it. Its all over the news everyday and its pathetic whats happening. These arent protests. Theyre riots
I know of at least 9 officers killed already and 3 were females. Im sure theres many many more all over the US. These riots arent just local

bmit16 06-05-2020 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1777140)
I was looking for positive proof of something I read on Facebook that a police officer was killed yesterday as part of the rioting after the George Floyd murder.

I didn't find it immediately, maybe someone else has the link...I read too that a Police officer was knifed in Brooklyn but not killed, yesterday..

Anyhow, I found this from CNN from last year about this time;

5 police officers were killed in 9 days - CNN

I am not sure what source you are looking at. Fox news has been listing all the officer deaths and attacks every night. A houston officer was shot in the back of the head this week, 2 shot in NY with the one stabbed in the neck, 4 more shot in NY earlier I think it was Sunday. 2 shot in Richmond Va Saturday night. Tut hats just the ones I remember.

La lamy 06-05-2020 06:55 AM

My boyfriend's son is a police officer and I do worry about him. Especially when people he's helped put in jail come back out. He doesn't seem particularly afraid of repercussion and he lives very far away from the city he works in, so hopefully all will go well for his career.

riamd1954 06-05-2020 06:58 AM

Yes stabbed one cop took his gun and shot 2 others they are all stable !! But if you watch the real news!!

Saluce 06-05-2020 07:30 AM

Several officers have been shot!!
Fox News 6/2 - 4 St Louis officers shot, non life threatening.
CBS 6/4 NYPD 2 shot, 2 stabbed all non- life threatening.
ABC 6/2 LasVegas Officer shot in back of head trying go to subdue rioter, he is on life support.
There are several others, but I can not find the info right now.
What happened to George Floyd is unacceptable and all 4 of those officers should be charged and convicted to the highest degree!!
However, there has been a war On police officers since the last administration!!! If anyone cares to look up statistics, there are actually more white men killed at the hands of police than black.
I worked in the law enforcement field for 27yrs and know hundreds of officers. I don’t know of any that ever shot an unarmed black man or any man for that matter!!

noslices1 06-05-2020 07:40 AM

Police as a whole
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1777140)
I was looking for positive proof of something I read on Facebook that a police officer was killed yesterday as part of the rioting after the George Floyd murder.

I didn't find it immediately, maybe someone else has the link...I read too that a Police officer was knifed in Brooklyn but not killed, yesterday..

Anyhow, I found this from CNN from last year about this time;

5 police officers were killed in 9 days - CNN

It is strange that one party who shall remain un-named, has many members who advocate “defunding the police”. I just hope they put this idea on their national platform.

PugMom 06-05-2020 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1777445)
You can't condemn acts against law enforcement and then condemn law enforcement.

sure you can! it's not 1 in the same. cops are individuals, it's why some are so good, & some are not

Bucco 06-05-2020 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1777682)
It is strange that one party who shall remain un-named, has many members who advocate “defunding the police”. I just hope they put this idea on their national platform.

Could you please supply a link to something that says any party advocates "defunding the police" ?

Thank you....think maybe you are confusing some chants with actual policies.

NO PARTY ADVOCATES DEFUNDING POLICE. First, most funding is local and not national but will wait for this link that might identify this "party"

GoodLife 06-05-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777795)
Could you please supply a link to something that says any party advocates "defunding the police" ?

Thank you....think maybe you are confusing some chants with actual policies.

NO PARTY ADVOCATES DEFUNDING POLICE. First, most funding is local and not national but will wait for this link that might identify this "party"

LA Mayor Slashes LAPD Budget As Calls To ‘Defund Police’ Slowly Pick Up Steam

LA Mayor Slashes LAPD Budget As Calls To ‘Defund Police’ Slowly Pick Up Steam

Joe V. 06-05-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1777795)
Could you please supply a link to something that says any party advocates "defunding the police" ?

Thank you....think maybe you are confusing some chants with actual policies.

NO PARTY ADVOCATES DEFUNDING POLICE. First, most funding is local and not national but will wait for this link that might identify this "party"


See: the Minneapolis city council.

Bucco 06-05-2020 10:45 AM

The last two posts are extremely P in their nature and are so vague and unrealistic.

Each year, every town, city and burg in our nation has statements and proposals, most of which never see a realistic light of day. Giving any credence to that and laying at the feet of a national party allegiance is futile at best

For example, in Madison Wisconsin there are proposals to cut all spending on COVID19 and perhaps schools, health care and pay for school employees.

Not worth any thing to post that as a "party" supported proposal.....that is reaching to play and incite discussion on a topic not allowed on TOTV

jimjamuser 06-05-2020 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1777318)
who have yet to be criticized in here (that I saw anyway)

You also seem a little short on publishing your overwhelming facts as well.
I have seen allegations, suggestions, even some well thought out theories on and in the media, that left and right wing groups, even the Russians are involved in fermenting the discord, but have yet to see overwhelming facts to the truth of any such stories.

Every secret service has warned about Russian hackers in our upcoming elections.

mjpuleo 06-05-2020 06:13 PM

I think our President has the right idea about sending in the military if this rioting continues. And how absurd is it that a police officer cannot shoot someone unless that person blatantly shows he is going to shoot the officer first. I just don't get this entire thing about how law enforcement has to change. It was wrong what happened to Floyd, but the cop is being charged with murder, and the others are being charged as well, so what else needs to be done--what do the looters and riots hope to gain by this?


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