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Schaumburger 06-08-2020 01:18 PM

When Will You Be Ready to Fly Again?
 
I would like to come back to TV for a visit late Summer/early Fall. I am a little hesitant to fly from Chicago to Orlando and back and driving is not realistic because of my vacation schedule. I also don't like long road trips driving solo.

Are you ready to board a flight yet? What about in 3 to 4 months from now?

Part of me says live your life and go to The Villages in a few months. Part of me says do a staycation this year. :undecided:

Two Bills 06-08-2020 01:24 PM

I will be watching the health reports of flight crew over the next few months.
If plenty of them survive, we will fly Atlantic this winter.
If they start dropping like flies, we will hibernate at home!

manaboutown 06-08-2020 01:34 PM

From what I have read getting one's hair cut and flying are the riskiest endeavors COVID-19wise. I need to make a business trip in a month or so and will drive solo for two days each way. I am not looking forward to that but really do not want to fly, wearing a mask for hours on end and all the rest of the hassle and iffiness as I will need to change planes. For my hotel night I will use FF miles as I have over 1.5 million of them that I must use or lose.

GoodLife 06-08-2020 01:39 PM

Since my plan to go to Scotland this summer was covided, I hope to go next year.

I might just book a private cabin on a freighter if air travel looks too scary. I can hide away and read books for a week.

johnadamsUSMC 06-08-2020 01:40 PM

Flying
 
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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1780015)
I would like to come back to TV for a visit late Summer/early Fall. I am a little hesitant to fly from Chicago to Orlando and back and driving is not realistic because of my vacation schedule. I also don't like long road trips driving solo.

Are you ready to board a flight yet? What about in 3 to 4 months from now?

Part of me says live your life and go to The Villages in a few months. Part of me says do a staycation this year. :undecided:

Put me down for "live your life".........
My wife and I are VERY FREQUENT fliers due to my business which includes flights to South Korea, Japan, Guam, Taiwan, and other places. We constantly get updates from our main airline co (Delta) on what they're doing to help and we're satisfied. Eliminating the middle seats, new air cleaning systems, extensive cleaning, and very few fliers compared to 6 months ago helps. They're also limiting any distribution of food PLUS the flight attendants are wearing masks.
BTW, we're leaving next Weds for Michigan, then again to Michigan in July and Oahu in July and August and finally Germany in December.
This is just MY opinion and "opinions" can't be wrong, can they? As our attorney says "you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to your own facts

Stu from NYC 06-08-2020 03:12 PM

We cruise a lot and have lost several due to the virus.

Until there is a better treatment and vaccine do not see us either cruisng or flying.

Wearing a mask for a trip is not something we want to do.

Velvet 06-08-2020 03:24 PM

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When there is an effective treatment, or vaccine or as Bill says enough fliers survive .... ;) love to travel but will stick to our BMW LT with hubby and live out of saddle bags. We used to do it for months at a time. I remember pulling up to valet parking at the Ritz with an 800 lb bike (not the hotel in the photo).

npwalters 06-08-2020 03:58 PM

I'd fly tomorrow if I needed (or wanted) to. I tend to watch the statistics and therefore realize how small the risk is.

I would not try to advise anyone else to take any action related to COVID 19.

600th Photo Sq 06-08-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1780015)
I would like to come back to TV for a visit late Summer/early Fall. I am a little hesitant to fly from Chicago to Orlando and back and driving is not realistic because of my vacation schedule. I also don't like long road trips driving solo.

Are you ready to board a flight yet? What about in 3 to 4 months from now?

Part of me says live your life and go to The Villages in a few months. Part of me says do a staycation this year. :undecided:

You will be fine. In fact the airlines are going out of there way to encourage people to fly.

Another thing huge bargains. We would be in England now however what is preventing us from going is they still have restrictions.


donfey 06-08-2020 04:26 PM

We're flying.
 
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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1780015)
I would like to come back to TV for a visit late Summer/early Fall. I am a little hesitant to fly from Chicago to Orlando and back and driving is not realistic because of my vacation schedule. I also don't like long road trips driving solo.

Are you ready to board a flight yet? What about in 3 to 4 months from now?

Part of me says live your life and go to The Villages in a few months. Part of me says do a staycation this year. :undecided:

Wife and I flew from Moline, IL to Sanford, on Allegiant, last Thursday, and home on Sunday, Flights were about half full and things went smoothly on both ends. TSA, airline staff and some customers wore masks. Stewardess handed out single-use masks and gloves as we boarded, but weren't mandatory. We weren't worried.

davem4616 06-08-2020 04:32 PM

not until there is a vaccine...

Tom359 06-08-2020 04:53 PM

You might be surprised how many people are flying. We flew to TV to check on our house back in early May from Colorado. Our flight was half full on the way there, and completely full on the way back. We are coming back this Friday for a visit, and I anticipate the flights to be completely full since they have reduced the number of flights per day. When we flew back in May, that was prior to the mask requirement by airlines. My wife and I wore masks, but I would guess that at least a third of people on our flight did not.

rsecord 06-08-2020 05:40 PM

Just returned for San Juan visiting grand kids for 2 weeks. Tickets were $35 each way, couldn't resist. Had great time and zero problems. Only live once

rustyp 06-08-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1780015)
I would like to come back to TV for a visit late Summer/early Fall. I am a little hesitant to fly from Chicago to Orlando and back and driving is not realistic because of my vacation schedule. I also don't like long road trips driving solo.

Are you ready to board a flight yet? What about in 3 to 4 months from now?

Part of me says live your life and go to The Villages in a few months. Part of me says do a staycation this year. :undecided:

From one who has done all the world travel that I care to do the answer is never will I fly again. I will not put myself into a airborne petrie dish but again why ? I've seen the world as much as I care. I rather see our country at a snails pace off the interstate. Next bucket list - perhaps house boating on Lake Cumberland.

Sensei 06-09-2020 04:49 AM

New York times today surveyed 511 epidemiologists regarding their plans for social engagement.

Rwirish 06-09-2020 05:17 AM

Wait a year.

Two Bills 06-09-2020 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sensei (Post 1780274)
New York times today surveyed 511 epidemiologists regarding their plans for social engagement.

OK. I'll do it!:icon_wink:

When 511 Epidemiologists Expect to Fly, Hug and Do 18 Other Everyday Activities Again - The New York Times

Ashley from UK 06-09-2020 05:34 AM

Happy to swap with you
 
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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1780106)
You will be fine. In fact the airlines are going out of there way to encourage people to fly.

Another thing huge bargains. We would be in England now however what is preventing us from going is they still have restrictions.


For those who don't know as of yesterday anyone entering the UK has to complete an online form stating where they will sefl-quantine for 14 days.

This is a totally mad and ill thought out policy... because when you land at say Heathrow you get on a packed underground train, or a bus, or hire a taxi to take you to your end destination, for example the local supermarket to buy 14 days of food.... So between the airport and your quarantine destination you will have potentially infected thousands of people!!!!! The government says it will carry out spot checks (by phone) to check people are self quarantining... anyone found not to be self quarantinging will be fined.

This is one of the stupidist ill thought out policies in creation.

But at least the UK is welcoming anyone from anywhere. The US has a total lock down from Brits to go to US, so 600th Square, I'll swap places with you :a040:

nancymiller217@yahoo.com 06-09-2020 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1780028)
From what I have read getting one's hair cut and flying are the riskiest endeavors COVID-19wise.

Can I ask where you read that? From what I’ve read the riskiest behavior is close, prolonged contact (living or working closely) with someone who is symptomatic.

I haven’t read anything about spread on airplanes, even though I see the potential, nor about spread in hair salons. I have read an article about spread in restaurants, at family gatherings, and at a call center (work).

Two Bills 06-09-2020 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley from UK (Post 1780301)
For those who don't know as of yesterday anyone entering the UK has to complete an online form stating where they will sefl-quantine for 14 days.

This is a totally mad and ill thought out policy... because when you land at say Heathrow you get on a packed underground train, or a bus, or hire a taxi to take you to your end destination, for example the local supermarket to buy 14 days of food.... So between the airport and your quarantine destination you will have potentially infected thousands of people!!!!! The government says it will carry out spot checks (by phone) to check people are self quarantining... anyone found not to be self quarantinging will be fined.

This is one of the stupidist ill thought out policies in creation.
But at least the UK is welcoming anyone from anywhere. The US has a total lock down from Brits to go to US, so 600th Square, I'll swap places with you :a040:

......but if you fly into Ireland first, then fly across to UK, you do not have to quarantine for 14 days!!
And we wonder why our death rate is probably going to finish higher than anywhere else in the world!

CarrieOn 06-09-2020 06:26 AM

Last weekend..came down to the villages house hunting..delta fills the plane 1/2 way.super sanitized.n95 masks..don’t touch anything especially your face..hand sanitizer all the way ,and young living Essential oils thieves products. You can’t pick where you think you may contract it..

traveler9 06-09-2020 06:36 AM

We are flying to Jamaica in July. No worries. Just take your hand sanitizer and wash hands for 20 sec. You will be OK

JulieER 06-09-2020 06:58 AM

Epidemiologists and infectious disease experts said they’d wait a year for that themselves when polled. That was in the news yesterday. 3 months or so for weddings, funerals, dining out.

JulieER 06-09-2020 07:03 AM

Saw recently they don’t feel a vaccine will “take” on us oldsters. Harvard Medicine is looking into that.

karostay 06-09-2020 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by traveler9 (Post 1780372)
We are flying to Jamaica in July. No worries. Just take your hand sanitizer and wash hands for 20 sec. You will be OK

What will the other passengers be doing
days a weeks before boarding ?

Then all in same cabin for hours breathing same cabin air

No thanks

Pommom91 06-09-2020 07:09 AM

My daughter flew here on Sunday from Michigan. I’ll be flying to Michigan in a couple weeks.

JulieER 06-09-2020 07:10 AM

We have had the same policy here in Delaware and other states. When coming in from another state, you self-quar for 14. And you do not go to the store for food on the way. You’re to arrange for food to be brought to you. I guess in UK with that amount of exposure to others, it’s the best they can do, but at least it limits it to that one time until the 14 days are up.

stan the man 06-09-2020 07:25 AM

Fly now ,,,some of us will dead by the time a vaccine is available

peggyb 06-09-2020 07:29 AM

Just flew up to NJ for work. All passengers and crew are required to wear masks throughout the flight. Most wore them in the airport as well in Orlando, and was required in PHL where we flew into. They say they sanitize everything and HEPA filters run every three minutes, but we were proactive and brought our own wipes and sanitizer on board also. Most airlines at this point are not selling the center seat, although I flew Spirit and they did so my husband sat next to a very nice lady who wasn’t too happy about it either but it was ok. Spirits deplaning guidelines were to stay seated and leave row by row waiting until the one in front gets their belongings and starts to leave.
All in all it was an easy procedure, I felt safe, and would get on a plane tomorrow if needed. The added bonus was how empty the airports were!

jamorela 06-09-2020 07:37 AM

I flew a week and a half ago. It was fine.

theruizs 06-09-2020 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1780015)
I would like to come back to TV for a visit late Summer/early Fall. I am a little hesitant to fly from Chicago to Orlando and back and driving is not realistic because of my vacation schedule. I also don't like long road trips driving solo.

Are you ready to board a flight yet? What about in 3 to 4 months from now?

Part of me says live your life and go to The Villages in a few months. Part of me says do a staycation this year. :undecided:

If you fly, check what each airline is doing to protect you. There is no blanket set of guidelines they have to follow, so each one is doing their own thing. We will likely be flying in July to visit family and friends in Iowa, unless things take another turn for the worse. We will be going Delta, they seem to be taking good precautions, but we know there is no guarantee. Be safe!

Schaumburger 06-09-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1780477)
If you fly, check what each airline is doing to protect you. There is no blanket set of guidelines they have to follow, so each one is doing their own thing. We will likely be flying in July to visit family and friends in Iowa, unless things take another turn for the worse. We will be going Delta, they seem to be taking good precautions, but we know there is no guarantee. Be safe!

I grew up in Dubuque, Iowa. My dad still lives there...I was there 10 days ago for his 90th birthday. No mask wearing for my 90 year old dad :( unless he is going to the doctor where it is mandatory in all dr.'s offices that he goes to.

I heard that Delta seems to be taking the most precautions as compared to the other airlines. Enjoy your trip to Iowa.

ts12755 06-09-2020 08:12 AM

Im ready to fly and cruise now. Just waiting for everything to start up. Wear a mask on the plane wash your hands frequently and don't touch your face. Now if you're old and sick, stay home. Most Villagers are healthy no matter what age and they're living their lives having fun.

MandoMan 06-09-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley from UK (Post 1780301)
For those who don't know as of yesterday anyone entering the UK has to complete an online form stating where they will sefl-quantine for 14 days.

This is a totally mad and ill thought out policy... because when you land at say Heathrow you get on a packed underground train, or a bus, or hire a taxi to take you to your end destination, for example the local supermarket to buy 14 days of food.... So between the airport and your quarantine destination you will have potentially infected thousands of people!!!!! The government says it will carry out spot checks (by phone) to check people are self quarantining... anyone found not to be self quarantinging will be fined.

This is one of the stupidist ill thought out policies in creation.

But at least the UK is welcoming anyone from anywhere. The US has a total lock down from Brits to go to US, so 600th Square, I'll swap places with you :a040:

I spent a lovely week in England last May. I think of trying to do that now. What, get a hotel room for two weeks and stay in the room, eating room service? How could I possibly afford that? And only then step outside to see the country? It’s tough. But even without that, would I do it now? It’s a bit like I would feel stepping into a wading pool filled with snakes. Just a bit squeamish.

B-flat 06-09-2020 08:22 AM

I'm taking a flight tomorrow, it beats trying to drive close to 1300 miles and staying in a hotel. I will be wearing a mask and packing handsanitizer and wipes. My thought is if I were to contract the virus and pass away I have no regrets, I have got everything I've ever needed in life and it's been a good one, no regrets. We don't live forever and having a trust in a power greater than myself eases any fears.

4557Spahr 06-09-2020 08:34 AM

I had to fly back to Florida from Michigan a month ago. Flew Allegiant. When I asked how they clean the plane so quickly on a quick turn around, the gate agents reply was, “We don’t!” We took our own wipes and cleaned our seat area. Wire masks, gloves and goggles. All was fine. Flew back last week. Allegiant now cleans their planes between guests. No one in my entire row or ahead of me. Airlines will have a tough go of it. Like anything else we do we need to take precautions but don’t stop living our lives.

merrymini 06-09-2020 09:18 AM

Neighbors flew back and forth a few weeks ago with no problems.

theruizs 06-09-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 1780510)
We don't live forever ...

Actually, I believe we do! :)

Aloha1 06-09-2020 11:18 AM

Whether you fly or not is your decision. Personally, I've been on 3 flights since this whole thing started. No problems. And we plan to cruise this December. Take proper precautions and get on with your life.

Two Bills 06-09-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1780505)
I spent a lovely week in England last May. I think of trying to do that now. What, get a hotel room for two weeks and stay in the room, eating room service? How could I possibly afford that? And only then step outside to see the country? It’s tough. But even without that, would I do it now? It’s a bit like I would feel stepping into a wading pool filled with snakes. Just a bit squeamish.

If you fly into Dublin or Shannon in Ireland, you can get a connecting flight, and enter UK without quarantine.
Anyone arriving from Ireland can enter UK without Quarantine.


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