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jacksonbrown 07-02-2020 06:31 AM

“MASK OFF” (video)
 
A video that is that rare combination of being both entertaining and informative.

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coffeebean 07-02-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1796188)
A video that is that rare combination of being both entertaining and informative.

click here for video

This video and its message are rubbish. Read this article about the evidence that pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.

Evidence Supporting Transmission of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 While Presymptomatic or Asymptomatic - Volume 26, Number 7—July 2020 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC

kstew43 07-02-2020 09:08 AM

Video is right on point........ so true.

Gulfcoast 07-02-2020 09:09 AM

Hysterical. "Where's your face covering?" "Where's your face?" It's nice to see some lighthearted humor during this crazy time in our country.

jacksonbrown 07-02-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1796324)
This video and its message are rubbish. Read this article about the evidence that pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.

Evidence Supporting Transmission of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 While Presymptomatic or Asymptomatic - Volume 26, Number 7—July 2020 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC

Rubbish, you say?

I couldn't get past the Abstract, to wit,

Recent epidemiologic, virologic, and modeling reports support the possibility of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission from persons who are presymptomatic (SARS-CoV-2 detected before symptom onset) or asymptomatic (SARS-CoV-2 detected but symptoms never develop).

Velvet 07-02-2020 12:57 PM

All ostriches keeping their heads firmly in the sand with regards to this virus, please put your hands up.

Mardarlowe 07-03-2020 05:03 AM

Great video. Very informative

seoulbrooks 07-03-2020 05:19 AM

Saw it on the internet so must be true.

jjtjr 07-03-2020 06:38 AM

mask
 
Go to any hospital ER and say you don't have to have a mask on an watch there reactions. Take a look at hospitals ICU capacity then you will understand the true facts about the virus. The truth is testing is only one indication of the spread, the other one is hospital are being overwhelmed with new cases. you can play with the numbers either way, but you can't hide the fact that hospital are at 110% and getting higher. Be smart take all precautions you only have one life.

pooderpask 07-03-2020 07:22 AM

More and more are questioning the true motivations behind the coronavirus hysteria as the data continues to pile up to indicate no such hysteria should ever have been necessary. Yes, the virus exists. Yes, some will get sick. And yes, unfortunately, some have and will die from it much like some have and will die from the flu, food poisoning, allergies, sepsis, tuberculosis, etc.
Asymptomatic people do not for the most part spread the virus meaning that if you are not feeling sick, you do not need to lock yourself in your home.
Most masks do not protect one from the virus while only offering minimal prevention in spreading the virus. (Again, if you are not feeling sick the chances of your spreading the coronavirus even if you have it is very low.)
As more and more come to realize the above FACTS then more and more will have to face the sad reality that the media/political-generated reaction to the coronavirus pandemic might very well be among the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated.

Boomer 07-03-2020 07:37 AM

There is a giant hole in the point the Anti-Masker OP is trying to make.

The numbers cited are OLD . The guy in the mask says 60,000 dead.

And the anti-masker arguing with him cites his information source date as April 2nd.

Today is July 3rd.

And the total of US deaths is now 128,750.

Therefore, the current numbers show a 47% increase in deaths in just 3 months.

The OP’s propaganda piece just doesn’t cut it.

Maybe look at a calendar. Then do a little math. Think for yourself.

Boomer

pcovella 07-03-2020 08:58 AM

I liked the video. My concern is the analogy to TB. I'll assume the facts on TB presented in the video are accurate. TB is killing about 4000 people per day. COVID-19 is killing about 4500/day. The difference is that TB is treatable and preventable. Also, it hard to make the case that because you didn't wear a mask in the US in 2018 to prevent the spread of TB, you don't need to wear a mask to prevent the spread of COVID-19. There is very little TB is the US. We are wearing masks to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 so that our hospitals don't exceed capacity and we can safely open our schools and businesses.

Joe C. 07-03-2020 09:31 AM

You can argue the pros and cons of wearing a mask.
But you CANNOT argue the social engineering aspect.
And that, my friends, it is the true danger.

Lindsyburnsy 07-03-2020 10:26 AM

At least the Texas Governor has finally snapped out of it and is telling people to wear masks. Only about 3 months late and thousands of sick people filling up the hospitals. Even Houston, the largest medical center in the world is having to transfer people elsewhere. So much for hysteria.

theruizs 07-03-2020 10:26 AM

Just another attempt by the selfish me-firsters to justify their actions, or non-actions. The real science is clear, and if followed, our economy would be humming along again. But thanks to the naysaying me-firsters we are teetering on another crisis and full blown lockdown. Hopefully sanity will eventually rule and masks will become required across the state, and even the country.

GoPacers 07-03-2020 11:31 AM

It's like the old football saying "You can't coach speed" only in this case you can't teach stupid.

You can only hope that Darwin chooses wisely.

sloanst 07-03-2020 12:59 PM

Absolutely great video. Subscribed to his channel.

sloanst 07-03-2020 01:01 PM

I have to disagree. You can teach stupid. America's school systems have done it for decades.

La lamy 07-03-2020 02:41 PM

Funny and thought provoking. Thanks for sharing.

JulieER 07-03-2020 07:36 PM

Under 600 tuberculosis deaths in the US. We have over 132,000 deaths from covid in just a few months. Not informative.

Gulfcoast 07-04-2020 11:48 AM

The selfish ones are the masked rioters and looters who are beating and shooting people. You think that they are wearing masks to protect you? Ha. What a joke.

Masks are just making it easier for them to wreak havoc with impunity.

theruizs 07-04-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1797671)
The selfish ones are the masked rioters and looters who are beating and shooting people. You think that they are wearing masks to protect you? Ha. What a joke.

Masks are just making it easier for them to wreak havoc with impunity.

Seriously uninformed. The violent ones are by far the minority. And the protestors overall are also a very small number (and declining every day) compared to the population. If you want to use this small slice of life to justify your own actions, so be it.

Gulfcoast 07-04-2020 01:14 PM

500 million dollars worth of damage caused by these masked menaces in the Twin Cities alone.

Darield 07-04-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pcovella (Post 1796968)
I liked the video. My concern is the analogy to TB. I'll assume the facts on TB presented in the video are accurate. TB is killing about 4000 people per day. COVID-19 is killing about 4500/day. The difference is that TB is treatable and preventable. Also, it hard to make the case that because you didn't wear a mask in the US in 2018 to prevent the spread of TB, you don't need to wear a mask to prevent the spread of COVID-19. There is very little TB is the US. We are wearing masks to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 so that our hospitals don't exceed capacity and we can safely open our schools and businesses.

I thought you made a good point about TB but that's just one example. In 2018, 80,000 people died of Influenza. Then there is pneumonia, sepsis, etc. etc. CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in the U.S. - STAT.

What's more concerning is the inconsistency with masks. My husband and I had to drive across country for family and in the Rockies, bandanas are very popular. A new article released on the ineffectiveness of bandanas, Bandana is least effective form of face mask, study says. There have been numerous articles on homemade masks. There is such a wide variance, some are barely helpful at all. A number of people don't even cover their noses. How many people wash their cotton masks every time they wear them?

I had so many problems breathing that I had my doctor monitor my drop in oxygen levels and yes their was a noticeable drop after 10 minutes. I now wear a face shield and was happy to see a positive report by AARP. Face Shields May Be Better Than Masks for COVID-19.

Concerning schools and children, there was a very funny and accurate post by a mother. Here is a quick sample of some of the post
"Please don’t snap Billy's mask in his face.
Your mask is not a necklace, bracelet, or any other form of jewelry.
You should not be using your mask as a slingshot. Please put it back on your face.
Please do not chew on your mask.
Your mask should be on your face, not on the back of your head
I’m sorry your mask is wet, but that's what happens when you lick the inside of it.
I’m sorry you sneezed. Here's a tissue. Wipe out the snot as well as you can.
No, you may not blow your nose in your mask."

When our education system has already fallen so far below other countries, when will teachers ever have time to teach?

CDC and many other health organizations are saying to wear a ask when social distancing cannot be maintained and yet there is now a push to wear masks whenever in public. A morning walk, as one example, should not require a mask.There's a lot of questions as to whether just wearing "masks" is going to allow us to safely open our schools and businesses. And there's a lot of concerns about the inconsistent and arbitrary rulings that continue to show up.

coffeebean 07-05-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1797039)
Just another attempt by the selfish me-firsters to justify their actions, or non-actions. The real science is clear, and if followed, our economy would be humming along again. But thanks to the naysaying me-firsters we are teetering on another crisis and full blown lockdown. Hopefully sanity will eventually rule and masks will become required across the state, and even the country.

If only our president would wear a mask in public and recommend mask wearing by Americans to slow the spread of the virus. I really believe that would help to open the economy going forward.

theruizs 07-05-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1798412)
If only our president would wear a mask in public and recommend mask wearing by Americans to slow the spread of the virus. I really believe that would help to open the economy going forward.

Agree!

Gulfcoast 07-06-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1798412)
If only our president would wear a mask in public and recommend mask wearing by Americans to slow the spread of the virus. I really believe that would help to open the economy going forward.

It wouldn't do jack if masked "protesters" continue to storm the streets and lob molotov cocktails through our storefront windows.

How about if you feel medically vulnerable to contracting this illness, you take personal responsibility for your own health and well being and shop during high risk hours and allow the rest of us to make those choices for ourselves?

The masks aren't keeping you safe when others are using them as a cover to do you harm.

shut the front door 07-06-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jjtjr (Post 1796807)
Go to any hospital ER and say you don't have to have a mask on an watch there reactions. Take a look at hospitals ICU capacity then you will understand the true facts about the virus. The truth is testing is only one indication of the spread, the other one is hospital are being overwhelmed with new cases. you can play with the numbers either way, but you can't hide the fact that hospital are at 110% and getting higher. Be smart take all precautions you only have one life.

You couldn't be more wrong.
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