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oranginauk 07-07-2020 09:17 AM

Am I Safe in The Villages?
 
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

Stu from NYC 07-07-2020 09:26 AM

We are only here for 5 months and feel very safe and comfortable or as safe as one can be with the virus out there.

The situation you are speaking about I believe was distorted by the media from what I heard on here.

She was being incredibly nasty and yellow obscenities and he snapped yelling something back and the media decided to show something else and just played his part.

We do find this to be a very well behaved community and very friendly.

billethkid 07-07-2020 09:37 AM

Yes you are as safe as when you first decided to move here.

Do not succumb to the less than one percent or the isolated case made to sound like a general condition.

The 99% plus do not see different colors.....just other people like us.

GoodLife 07-07-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

First post in 4 years? What took you so long? Welcome!

You are much much safer here than you would be in a big city. There are over 3000 clubs in the Villages, not a single one for "white supremacists" What you saw if you watched the whole video was a few deranged and rude protesters yelling obscenities and calling a peaceful cart parade Nazis and KKKers simply because of who they voted for. The guy who said white power was just being sarcastic. The people you need to be afraid of are the deranged protesters.

I would think you would know all this being here four years.

Kenswing 07-07-2020 09:43 AM

As my father always told me.. "Show respect, get respect".

My experience with The Villages is very limited but the short time we did visit, we found everyone to be very welcoming. People of all flavors. We spoke to A LOT of people and there wasn't a single one we wouldn't have sat down to a meal with. Actually we did have a couple of meals with a few Villagers..

Nucky 07-07-2020 09:48 AM

If you moved to The Villages from an area similar to the ones many of us came from then you should feel like your in your mother’s arms. I think you will be ok.

manaboutown 07-07-2020 09:50 AM

It is big news here if a bike gets stolen from in front of a store, somebody puts artificial turf in their front yard, someone gets a DUI or if an adult child who can't make it on their own and lives with mom and dad gets busted for possessing illicit drugs. I know of no other community anywhere where any of this would be newsworthy. In many cities today, murders, rapes, robberies, burglaries, rioting and looting don't even make the news.

VApeople 07-07-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages?

Yes.

Everyone is invited to live in the villages, including white or any other supremacists.

America is not a good place to live if you expect everyone to think like you do. We love our diversity and our right to express ourselves freely.

Velvet 07-07-2020 10:24 AM

OP, I feel safe in The Villages when it comes to people, not so much when it comes to monster garages or drummers or fake grass.

bumpygreens 07-07-2020 10:33 AM

You're absolutely safe here. If television news is causing you to feel less safe, turn to a different channel. Or better yet, turn it off and go out and enjoy being with your friends and neighbors. Only a loser would think the color of their skin somehow makes them superior to anyone else.

karostay 07-07-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.


Once upon a time a Friendly Village was developed..then they sold houses and rest is evolution

Stu from NYC 07-07-2020 11:07 AM

Look at the crime type articles in the Sun. Big news is someone caught shoplifteng at Walmart.

Many people will leave for a few hours and not lock their doors

manaboutown 07-07-2020 11:28 AM

Our incredibly low crime rate impresses me! The Villages Crime Rates and Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

mamamia54 07-07-2020 11:35 AM

In your four years did you ever have a problem? Why would you now. Everyone just wants to enjoy their lives. Live and let live. Don’t go by what you see on the news. I always told my children believe none of what you hear and half of want you see, lol!

dewilson58 07-07-2020 12:14 PM

Not touching.

FishnFool 07-07-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

I hope you feel comfortable enough to express your concerns to the friends you have made here. I have no doubt that if your friends know how you feel, they would show their support and have your back. I believe that 99.999% of people are against White Supremacy, this includes folks here in The Villages too.

As a single woman of color, you are a minority in The Villages on several levels, and its understandable why you might have concerns. But please rest assured the only minority most of us want to feel uncomfortable living here or anywhere are White Supremacists.

Unfortunately the Coronavirus has amplified peoples feelings of being vulnerable and isolated, and has most of us all feeling afraid for various reasons. I am with you regarding your statement "The country is frantic now and I am afraid" as I don't do chaos well. Unfortunately there seem to be a lot of people, with various points of views (on sooo many subjects right now) that are having difficulty expressing those views in a civil way. Seeing it happen in our "Bubble" is disappointing and feels just too close to home. We can do better than this and we all have to try.

I am glad you chose The Villages as a place live, it truly is a wonderful place to be! It is one of the safer places to live during our senior years and we are a community where folks can count on each other for support, especially in times of need.
If some reason you continue to experience these concerns please don't be afraid to let us, your friends, your neighbors know since it is important that in addition to being safe that we need to also feel safe.

camaguey48 07-08-2020 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

You are safer here. How about the woman screaming the F word at the golf car parade? Did you conveniently forget her? I know who she is and I avoid her; she is toxic as well as the White power guy. A friend stated that she doesn't see color. I say that is the dumbest and most condescending thing I have heard. The color is there, accept it and accept the person for who they are in terms of character and decency.

DrBrutyle109 07-08-2020 05:40 AM

You need to watch the whole video. There are people who are idiots no matter where you live. I’d like to think there are less here. It’s the old saying, don’t let one bad apple ruin the whole bunch.

Miguel 1952 07-08-2020 05:43 AM

Camagüey, Cuba?
 
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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1799540)
You are safer here. How about the woman screaming the F word at the golf car parade? Did you conveniently forget her? I know who she is and I avoid her; she is toxic as well as the White power guy. A friend stated that she doesn't see color. I say that is the dumbest and most condescending thing I have heard. The color is there, accept it and accept the person for who they are in terms of character and decency.

😀😀😀

LG999 07-08-2020 05:49 AM

I do not think you are alone in this feeling. I am a white woman. My husband is a white man. We certainly do not feel safe with rioting mobs of violent people destroying property, beating & even killing others who have done them no harm, looting, starting fires, painting blm everywhere, so on. This is a dangerous time and no one can help you or me feel safe except our politicians. Some allow people to break the law and this is the result. If we vote for law & order we may have calm again. I do believe we are safer here in the Villages than anywhere else I know unless you want to go off grid. At least people have guns here & may be able to defend against anarchy.

jacksonbrown 07-08-2020 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LG999 (Post 1799557)
I do not think you are alone in this feeling. I am a white woman. At least people have guns here & may be able to defend against anarchy.

Thank you LG999, you are a voice of reason.

terenceanne 07-08-2020 05:54 AM

You are perfectly safe as are the rest of us. Don't let a few obnoxious political idiots put you off. With a population of 140k plus there are always going to be a very small percentage who want to ruin it for all.

Windguy 07-08-2020 06:01 AM

Racism came back out of the closet about four years ago and the incidence of violence towards minorities has been on the rise ever since. This is true all over the country and things have gotten really ugly. I’m sorry that it has increased the stress on people of color and I hope you never experience any “Karen” incidents.

TV is no different than the rest of the country. I’ve read MANY racist remarks right here on this forum and it makes me very sad. I am shocked that people would utter such hateful things—especially in public.

Some of the responses to your question tell you not to worry and that TV is safe. Yet many of these people feel the need to own guns to “protect” themselves. If TV is so safe, why do they need guns? I’ve read here how some won’t go to Wildwood or Leesburg without one. It makes me think they don’t feel comfortable around minorities, which I believe is an indicator of racist thinking. The idea of nervous people walking around with guns terrifies me. But, that‘s another subject.

Despite what I’ve said, I don’t think you should move. Much, but not all, of the increase in publicized incidents is due to increased reporting and the fact that more people record and share videos of racist attacks. Also, I hope that this wave of overt racism will pass. Many people who had stayed quiet when witnessing racist acts in the past are now standing up for people being harassed by the ugly Karens. I hope that these racists will be shamed into going back into the closet. In the longer term, I hope our youth, who seem more tolerant of people with different backgrounds, will eventually save the day.

I wish you the best of luck and that you have a safe and happy retirement.

I’ve put on my asbestos underwear, so I’m ready for people to flame me for speaking from my heart. Flame away!

geobet 07-08-2020 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

Please don’t judge all of us by the actions of a few. We have been here 16 yrs and are just as safe today as back then. Think of us as a city of 120,000 plus residents. We are far safer than most cities 1/2 our size. I, a woman pushing 80, can still ride my golf cart or take a walk at 10 PM and not worry about being mugged. There will always be people who behave like adolescents and those who think they are entitled, but the majority of us, like you, are normal everyday people who respect one another.

roob1 07-08-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1799226)
As my father always told me.. "Show respect, get respect".

My experience with The Villages is very limited but the short time we did visit, we found everyone to be very welcoming. People of all flavors. We spoke to A LOT of people and there wasn't a single one we wouldn't have sat down to a meal with. Actually we did have a couple of meals with a few Villagers..


martynpat 07-08-2020 06:07 AM

Friendly
 
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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

Don't get worried by a few idiots. They exist everywhere and usually are just mouthy. Yes, we are friendly and safe. But even more, most Villagers are ready to help any time you need it....don't be afraid to ask. Lots of good folks here.

Dilligas 07-08-2020 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

Nothing has changed in the time you have been here. The mass media remains the biggest problem for America. Media must sell viewership, so instead of “reporting the news” Media reports their own opinions, which they have to sensationalize to keep viewers (so they think). Turn off the tv and continue with your enjoyable life in retirement. The Villages is probably the safest 130,000 populated community you could live in.

Girlcopper 07-08-2020 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1799322)
Not touching.

Dont blame you. Lol......:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Marykschulz 07-08-2020 06:13 AM

The Sun does not report crime issues. It is the “happy paper” of the developer that sells “Florida’s Friendliest Hometown”.

GaryKoca 07-08-2020 06:36 AM

Am I safe in The Villages?
 
As others have said, while there are certainly a few white supremacists here in a population of 130,000 - the White Power guy - most everyone here is very nice. And it is very safe. Let's face it, however, there is not a lot of diversity in The Villages.

maryl 07-08-2020 06:41 AM

Been here 4 years Villages has changed getting ready to move It has gotten to big to many people

jacksonbrown 07-08-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1799571)
Right now people are yelling Black Lives Matter, White Lives Matter, Defund the Police, No Justice-No Peace and on and on. Its racism being exhibited by blacks, whites, browns etc. Whites in certain areas are fearing blacks and vice versa and the media chooses to blast every negative word over every social outlet. Look into the facts or background of any incident reported before even repeating it. The repeating of false facts is where the issue is

Exactly

graciegirl 07-08-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.

According to a recent assessment, The Villages is the safest place in Florida. We have fewer felonies and misdemeanor crimes here.

There are no race restrictions here. The snippet showing a man shouting "white power" failed to show the goading behavior of a person who was very offensive. It is very possible that he shouted back the first thing that came to his mind. I didn't know until I read this thread that people think it is wrong to use the term "white power". I am not sure who determined that.

I don't know why my last post was removed from this thread but I hope this time I haven't broken any rules.

bobdelange 07-08-2020 06:45 AM

So sorry that you are affected by that person. Please try to accept the fact that we are over 100 thousand people her in TV.The antics of one lunatic cannot be used to judge the rest of us.I have lived here over 25 years and I am originally from NYC.Believe me when I say you are more secure here than any other place I can think of. No matter where you are in this sorry old world, there will be the rare individual who is mentally unbalanced like our "white power" person.Best reaction is to completly ignore him, or her.

Windguy 07-08-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LG999 (Post 1799586)
Windguy, people need guns bcs the government can not be relied on to do its primary job which is to protect its citizens.

So, they are afraid the cops won’t protect them from the many minorities found in Leesburg and Wildwood? I see.

graciegirl 07-08-2020 06:53 AM

[QUOTE=Ndomines;1799591]If any single person you know has ever said to you that they have a white friend, a black friend, an Asian friend, a Native American friend, a Jewish friend, a Muslim friend then the hairs on the back of your neck should be standing up. These statements at the onset draw a distinction. Your friend, just your friend, your neighbor, just your neighbor, your mayor, just your mayor. If a person expresses a racial description followed by the word friend then what they are unwittingly saying is that the are prejudiced.
Parrots come in a variety of colors
but in they end we just call them birds.


What if, the person saying that is not in any way filled with hate or a prejudgment? What if that person due to where they lived had little interaction with people of other cultures and races? I didn't meet anyone who was Asian until I was in my twenties. There were nine black graduates in our class of 360 in High School. They were folks like the rest of us but I am not sure where they lived.

What is it that is bad about saying anything from someone who do not mean to harm and want everyone to have equal chances at success in life?

What have people done to attempt to say the right thing and do the right thing and who determines what IS the right thing?

stan the man 07-08-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1799322)
Not touching.

surprised

rjgnj321 07-08-2020 07:09 AM

Safe to Live in The Villages
 
My heart goes out to you. The Villages is a Microcosm of America...Racism exists on its own here as does Anti-Semitism, Homophobia etc. Will it invite others to come here with their similar views....it could......but I hope cooler heads prevail and the negative images shown worldwide of a negative day in our Lives here will provide a way for everyone to calm down and co-exist and be more excepting of each other’s views and beliefs.



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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.


Topspinmo 07-08-2020 07:14 AM

No single woman is totally safe anywhere. Especially here at squares. It’s just the way it is. You must be aware of you’re surroundings and DON’T trust strangers. Especially don’t get inebriate and loose all common sense.

MandoMan 07-08-2020 07:17 AM

The Villages is one of the safest towns of its size in the world. If you follow the daily crime reports, you may note that there is virtually no crime in The Villages. The closest we come to crime is mostly shoplifting, and most of that is done by people who don’t live here but use the stores on the outskirts. I don’t know why people bother to put in alarm systems or carry concealed weapons. Completely unnecessary here.

Yes, The Villages is 70% red and 30% blue. Yes, plenty of people are very upset about the looting and arson and destruction of public and private property they see on television. Plenty of them associate the BLM excesses with most African-Americans, which is unfair. However, in my experience, even the most rabid red fans would NEVER harm a polite older woman or man of any color and would go out of their way to help and protect her or him if she or he were in need. If she or he is a neighbor, even more so. I’ve noticed over and over that in America, bias against a group does not usually extend to people we know and like and don’t fear.

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Originally Posted by oranginauk (Post 1799204)
I had heard of The Villages, America’s Friendliest Hometown. With wonderful homes and great facilities and activities. Surely a place to make new friends, to smile, laugh and enjoy. A retirement I always dreamed of. So I checked it out and moved here four years ago.

As a single woman of color, I felt safe. I have made friends, joined in activities, volunteered and indeed I felt safe in America’s Friendliest Hometown. Then it happened, one group against the other. Videos going viral, a man yelling “white power”, faces and voices full of hate. I began to question .... Has this incident invited white supremacists to The Villages? People seek out to live where there are like minded people.

The country is frantic now and I am afraid. All it takes is a single fuse to light a fire. I urge you to think before you speak.

Please do not destroy “ America’s Friendliest Hometown”. Please help me feel safe again.



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