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gatorbill1 07-08-2020 08:41 AM

25 new cases today 7/8/20
 
Isn't it time for TV to cut back some activities? Also isn't it time for our "leaders" to say something other than we are doing great?
Just asking

Lottoguy 07-08-2020 09:18 AM

Their watching this closely. They've done a great job so far.

Investment Painting Contractors 07-08-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1799741)
Isn't it time for TV to cut back some activities? Also isn't it time for our "leaders" to say something other than we are doing great?
Just asking

Bill. I think we all can make the decision not to go out by ourselves. I don't understand why anybody would need to close something to protect me. I Just Stay Home. I don't need a leader to tell me that. Len

billethkid 07-08-2020 09:24 AM

What can they say that has not already been said?
"They" have stated repeatedly that to minimize the spread they "recommend" wearing a mask.

Fifty percent or more do not wear masks.
Most of that 50% does not bother with social distancing.

There is more testing hence more cases.
By the way what does "case" mean.

Do you know that if the same person gets tested again and still shows positive that is two cases (and so on)?

We already know what to do and too many are not doing it.

So until a vaccine or treatment becomes available the numbers are what ever they are for that day.

Know for sure that until people do what it takes this nightmare can only continue.

karostay 07-08-2020 09:30 AM

Everyone's become a Surgeon General

Thanks to social media
#1 make people expert inventions

VApeople 07-08-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1799741)
Isn't it time for TV to cut back some activities? Also isn't it time for our "leaders" to say something other than we are doing great?

No.

We all know what we need to do in order to protect ourselves from the Coronavirus. We are going to live our lives as we choose.

You know, it is great being old and having no responsibilities.

graciegirl 07-08-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1799741)
Isn't it time for TV to cut back some activities? Also isn't it time for our "leaders" to say something other than we are doing great?
Just asking

Just stay away from others who don't live in your house.
Wear a mask. We don't buy food that is prepared in restaurants.

Use common sense. When people are TOLD what to do it makes them ugly, some of them, who didn't have a mother who gave them "THE LOOK".

tophcfa 07-08-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1799802)
No.

We all know what we need to do in order to protect ourselves from the Coronavirus. We are going to live our lives as we choose.

You know, it is great being old and having no responsibilities.

Could you please, please, please tell me how to responsibly get rid of all my responsibilities? Please

GoodLife 07-08-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Investment Painting Contractors (Post 1799782)
Bill. I think we all can make the decision not to go out by ourselves. I don't understand why anybody would need to close something to protect me. I Just Stay Home. I don't need a leader to tell me that. Len

Amen Len! Hey that rhymes. I must be a poet.

Investment Painting Contractors 07-08-2020 09:52 AM

Real Active Cases
 
They started reporting cases in March in Sumter Co. We now have 347 cases, is that a cumulative number? Doesn't anyone ever get better? We have had 17 deaths for weeks, are the included in that number? The prisoners in Bushnell are also included. How many real active cases do we have? Also taking into account the people who have tested more than once and are counted each time. Just Curious. Len

gatorbill1 07-08-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Investment Painting Contractors (Post 1799817)
They started reporting cases in March in Sumter Co. We now have 347 cases, is that a cumulative number? Doesn't anyone ever get better? We have had 17 deaths for weeks, are the included in that number? The prisoners in Bushnell are also included. How many real active cases do we have? Also taking into account the people who have tested more than once and are counted each time. Just Curious. Len

Sumter is now 516 - a "little" higher??

gatorbill1 07-08-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1799810)
Just stay away from others who don't live in your house.
Wear a mask. We don't buy food that is prepared in restaurants.

Use common sense. When people are TOLD what to do it makes them ugly, some of them, who didn't have a mother who gave them "THE LOOK".

I agree, except most people do not have common sense lately

queasy27 07-08-2020 10:21 AM

The total number of cases is cumulative. How many of those folks are actively contagious? Looking at the daily "new" counts for the last 14 days would give a rough approximation, but recoveries aren't tracked very well.

Investment Painting Contractors 07-08-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1799828)
Sumter is now 516 - a "little" higher??

Has anybody got better? The official count was 387per 50 mins ago. Leesburg reported 478 cases for Sumter. The morning news gave another number. Your number is 516, whichever one is right my question still stands. DOES ANYONE EVER GET BETTER? What is the number of active cases? We have a 5% positive rate which still is too many but it's a very low number.

EastCoastDawg 07-08-2020 10:37 AM

Testing positive is not a death warrant. Many "positives" show no symptoms; the majority of others have very mild symptoms.

It is the number of hospitalizations and deaths with which we should be concerned - an increase in either/both of those would be worrying.

Until then, follow the advice already given and, if you choose to do so, avoid contact with others.

Stu from NYC 07-08-2020 10:42 AM

Would like to know the most current death rates Does not seem like hospitals lately are flooded with patients and nobody is screaming for more ventilators

shut the front door 07-08-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 1799847)
Testing positive is not a death warrant. Many "positives" show no symptoms; the majority of others have very mild symptoms.

It is the number of hospitalizations and deaths with which we should be concerned - an increase in either/both of those would be worrying.

Until then, follow the advice already given and, if you choose to do so, avoid contact with others.

Bingo. Those are the numbers that are hard to get.
I watch the hospital availability site. As of today, Sumter county has 347 hospital beds and 124 of them are available.

graciegirl 07-08-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1799852)
Would like to know the most current death rates Does not seem like hospitals lately are flooded with patients and nobody is screaming for more ventilators

Our grands who work in the news industry are both worried about us and I tell them that living here in The Villages is really hard to explain. This place attracted a lot of responsible and hard working folks who want to live a bit more, even those of us who are old-ER.

Here is todays data from Sumter County and Florida. They have been testing a lot.

covid19 in sumter county florida. - Bing

Stu from NYC 07-08-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1799883)
Our grands who work in the news industry are both worried about us and I tell them that living here in The Villages is really hard to explain. This place attracted a lot of responsible and hard working folks who want to live a bit more, even those of us who are old-ER.

Here is todays data from Sumter County and Florida. They have been testing a lot.

covid19 in sumter county florida. - Bing

Our kids and grandkids also worry about us but we just go out to go food shopping and to neighborhood pools and walks about neighborhood so we feel safe.

Thanks for info you sent but would be interesting to see the current death rate now there are some better treatments and the virus must not be as deadly right now.

gatorbill1 07-08-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1799852)
Would like to know the most current death rates Does not seem like hospitals lately are flooded with patients and nobody is screaming for more ventilators

Original thread specifies 25 new cases in TV - think maybe a majority of those 25 are in the dangerous age and conditions group?

BossLady 07-08-2020 03:11 PM

Cannot confirm this data
 
ICU Beds is the number I watch right now; to see if I can determine what is/going to happen. Based on that I’l make future decision as needed. Right now - nothing needed. Happy on the ride for now...

Clickorlando.com has ICU figures although I cannot say if data is accurate. I just keep watching, tuning out a lot now proving not to know what’s really happening, to figure it out for myself. Without more real answers I can actually trust from a-n-y-o-n-e, and with a risk-factor myself, I’m staying in, and away, until “I“ figure it out For myself. Until then, I’m not really missing that much, not really. What I really miss - hugs. Stay safe, away from the spread If there is any folks

Aloha1 07-08-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Investment Painting Contractors (Post 1799842)
Has anybody got better? The official count was 387per 50 mins ago. Leesburg reported 478 cases for Sumter. The morning news gave another number. Your number is 516, whichever one is right my question still stands. DOES ANYONE EVER GET BETTER? What is the number of active cases? We have a 5% positive rate which still is too many but it's a very low number.

They do not report the recovered stat. The number of positives, negatives, deaths, is a cumulative number since March 1st. One can safely assume that if you didn't die, you recovered. Example, of the 39,379 tests conducted in Lake County, only 2,087 tested positive, a 5.2% rate. Of those, 25 people died or 1.2%. Everybody else recovered. And the more testing, the lower that death rate will become. If you compare to the total population tested, the death rate is .06%

golfing eagles 07-08-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossLady (Post 1800004)
ICU Beds is the number I watch right now; to see if I can determine what is/going to happen. Based on that I’l make future decision as needed. Right now - nothing needed. Happy on the ride for now...

Clickorlando.com has ICU figures although I cannot say if data is accurate. I just keep watching, tuning out a lot now proving not to know what’s really happening, to figure it out for myself. Without more real answers I can actually trust from a-n-y-o-n-e, and with a risk-factor myself, I’m staying in, and away, until “I“ figure it out For myself. Until then, I’m not really missing that much, not really. What I really miss - hugs. Stay safe, away from the spread If there is any folks


All I can say is WOW, just WOW

You don't trust Fauci, you don't trust Birx, you don't trust the CDC or the state health dept., all with a vast knowledge of epidemiology and virology. Instead, you are going to "figure it out for yourself".. Good luck with that, post again in 25 years and let us know how you are doing.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

yabbadu 07-08-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1799741)
Isn't it time for TV to cut back some activities? Also isn't it time for our "leaders" to say something other than we are doing great?
Just asking

Article is very misleading. For statistic purpose they consider All of Sumter county as "The Villages". I have wrote to them about it, but as usual they do not respond.

The True Village count is a mystery?????

Wallyworld 07-08-2020 06:04 PM

Florida has a death rate of 18 per 100,000 people and states like New York and New Jersey have a death rates of 172 and 166 respectively. Stop listening to Fauci!

EdFNJ 07-08-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1800024)
And the more testing, the lower that death rate will become. .06%

Unless a lot more people die. The death rates from the latest "spike" won't be seen for a couple weeks. God willing it will remain low. What no one is talking about is the number of cases in FL (not as bad here in the bubble) have increased 10x over the worse part of the pandemic back in March/April.

Death rates have greatly improved as they learn more how to treat the virus however they are finding more and more "after recovery" issues like permanently damaged lungs and kidneys. I guess that is better than death but still .........

My biggest worry is those who are asymptomatic and are running around without masks. While they are practicing their right of "freedom from tyranny of mask wearing" they could get me or my wife sick, and no, I don't want to stay home because of those covidiots and ME wearing a mask won't help as much as Mr Asymptomatic running around without one covering his/her upper orifices. No one seems to understand the selfishness of that little inconvenience.

Northwoods 07-08-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 1800059)
Article is very misleading. For statistic purpose they consider All of Sumter county as "The Villages". I have wrote to them about it, but as usual they do not respond.

The True Village count is a mystery?????

The count of COVID cases in The Villages, Sumter County for the last 7 days is: 117, 121, 125, 127, 133, 157, 180 (today 7/8). The Villages, Lake County for the last 7 days is: 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 11, 12.
This can be found on the Florida Health, Florida COVID-19 Response website. You have to drill down to find the specific city numbers.

Aloha1 07-08-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1800091)
Unless a lot more people die.

In the meantime, a lot more people will be tested so it could be a zero sum game.

asianthree 07-08-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Investment Painting Contractors (Post 1799842)
Has anybody got better? The official count was 387per 50 mins ago. Leesburg reported 478 cases for Sumter. The morning news gave another number. Your number is 516, whichever one is right my question still stands. DOES ANYONE EVER GET BETTER? What is the number of active cases? We have a 5% positive rate which still is too many but it's a very low number.

Yes people get better, some have no symptoms. Return to work, and continue to survive. I am in contact with more than a dozen who have tested +, and now have returned to the living.
You need to test negative twice, sometimes it took weeks to finally get 2 negatives.

One wonders if the multiple testing on one person is counting as one positive, or each time a person tests positive is counted as new case. Just a thought that probably no one has the answer, including me.

Before you freak out I left my family, and I Am NOT in Florida

Stu from NYC 07-08-2020 07:43 PM

Lots of speculation no real answers, will be interesting to see how the new cases make out.

Chitown 07-08-2020 07:49 PM

Be careful but not overreact
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1799852)
Would like to know the most current death rates Does not seem like hospitals lately are flooded with patients and nobody is screaming for more ventilators

As of today, July 8 2020, Florida has 225,000 positive cases and 3880 deaths. That is now 1.7 % death rate. The annual flu death rate is about 1%, about 60,000 people die every year of the flu. How many months or years are we going to let politicians and doctors with agendas scare us? We were forced to shut down businesses. At one point threatened fines if we left our homes, threatened fines if we did not wear masks in public, asked to leave businesses without a mask, executive orders by politicians. The swine flu from 2009 is still around and killing people today. Then there was the Numerous other virus’s and outbreaks world wide every year. It’s time for us to be careful, good hygiene and go on with life.

Aloha1 07-08-2020 08:02 PM

And I'm waiting for the panicked posts when people learn that there is a new swine flu coming - -again from China - that is more deadly than the 2009 one. I've lived through 4 pandemics and have been a victim/survivor of one of them as has my wife. Been quarantined for German Measles and lived in fear of polio as a young child. Not since today did we ever close the economy down nor allow "leaders" to dictate our behavior.

We did the right thing back then and followed the guidelines. There was no need for draconian orders from on high. Sad to see how inept and uneducated the public has become. We are the children of the Greatest Generation and we were taught right from wrong and personal responsibility. Why did these values not get passed on?

BossLady 07-08-2020 08:02 PM

No worries friend
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1800056)
All I can say is WOW, just WOW

You don't trust Fauci, you don't trust Birx, you don't trust the CDC or the state health dept., all with a vast knowledge of epidemiology and virology. Instead, you are going to "figure it out for yourself".. Good luck with that, post again in 25 years and let us know how you are doing.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yep. I can handle this and I’ll be fine. You dont have to Wow about me friend. I take care of myself and I’m personally responsible. The Pros have been all wrong from the beginning. You trust who you like. I’ll be alive in 25 years because I’m younger, vital and I stay safe. I don’t feel it important to roam around the local restaurants Looking for crowds. I’m not that bored.

Dr. Birx, bless her, is the best voice/data I heard today. The others, no thanks. They’ve proved nothing to me 3Million later.

Oh and kudos to the Sumter County Health Dept. for efficiently testing county residents quickly, easily for free.

jaj523 07-08-2020 11:34 PM

The one fact that is almost always omitted is how many of the new cases require hospitalization. To me, that is the key bit of information. Is this information deliberately omitted? Or is it unavailable? A lot of people test positive but have few or no symptoms. Is there any place this information is available?

Bay Kid 07-09-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1800118)
As of today, July 8 2020, Florida has 225,000 positive cases and 3880 deaths. That is now 1.7 % death rate. The annual flu death rate is about 1%, about 60,000 people die every year of the flu. How many months or years are we going to let politicians and doctors with agendas scare us? We were forced to shut down businesses. At one point threatened fines if we left our homes, threatened fines if we did not wear masks in public, asked to leave businesses without a mask, executive orders by politicians. The swine flu from 2009 is still around and killing people today. Then there was the Numerous other virus’s and outbreaks world wide every year. It’s time for us to be careful, good hygiene and go on with life.

Create fear, turmoil and destruction of our countries history and economy.

coffeebean 07-09-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1799780)
Their watching this closely. They've done a great job so far.

Respectfully disagree with your assessment. This pandemic has been mismanaged from the get go. We could have had a much better outcome at this point if only our leader would listen to the experts. He is totally denying the crisis and I'm sad to say I did not expect this from him.

oldtimes 07-09-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1799741)
Isn't it time for TV to cut back some activities? Also isn't it time for our "leaders" to say something other than we are doing great?
Just asking

Isn't it time for people to start taking some personal responsibility?

GoodLife 07-09-2020 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1800118)
As of today, July 8 2020, Florida has 225,000 positive cases and 3880 deaths. That is now 1.7 % death rate. The annual flu death rate is about 1%, about 60,000 people die every year of the flu. How many months or years are we going to let politicians and doctors with agendas scare us? We were forced to shut down businesses. At one point threatened fines if we left our homes, threatened fines if we did not wear masks in public, asked to leave businesses without a mask, executive orders by politicians. The swine flu from 2009 is still around and killing people today. Then there was the Numerous other virus’s and outbreaks world wide every year. It’s time for us to be careful, good hygiene and go on with life.

Your death rate is calculated using only confirmed cases. CDC estimates that there are 10 times that number if asymptomatics are included. That results in a death rate of 0.17%

BossLady 07-09-2020 10:41 AM

Open the Square
 
Personally, I’m the opposite. Don’t close it down... I think at least one Square should open for those who choose to attend because its outdoors and there is space to spread out including 1). A socially distanced live band each night, 2). Close off vehicle traffic to square and place well defined socially distanced tables for diners to patronize restaurants, while listening to live music, 3). Rework the environment, everything from “stand here”, signs, to a Bingo game I can imagine to make social distance fun for everyone, In fact there are tons of interactive ideas to get people socially distanced and connected/involved, as other attractions have done, to accommodate our “current normal”. The Squares have the space, the staff, PA system, tons of possibilites... A creative entertainment department should already be figuring this out. I’m sure many here have great ideas to rework the social areas and remain distanced - and still enjoy and have fun. I can think of a few.

I still won’t attend now however as I choose to stay in. I feel everyone has the right to choose for themselves. I do feel we are paying for amenities. All companies’ are going to have to figure out a new way. What if this goes on a while?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-09-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossLady (Post 1800004)
ICU Beds is the number I watch right now; to see if I can determine what is/going to happen. Based on that I’l make future decision as needed. Right now - nothing needed. Happy on the ride for now...

Clickorlando.com has ICU figures although I cannot say if data is accurate. I just keep watching, tuning out a lot now proving not to know what’s really happening, to figure it out for myself. Without more real answers I can actually trust from a-n-y-o-n-e, and with a risk-factor myself, I’m staying in, and away, until “I“ figure it out For myself. Until then, I’m not really missing that much, not really. What I really miss - hugs. Stay safe, away from the spread If there is any folks

I think just the opposite. ICU beds and deaths are meaningless. That only tells how many people with underlying conditions have contracted the virus.

The more people that have it, the better than chance of catching it. The total number of cases is what's important.

Of course if they are counting people have have had two positive tests as two cases, and if people who have had it and have recovered as cases, then the numbers don't mean anything.

The only thing to be concerned about is the total number of active cases. That is the number that determines the chance of other people contracting it.
The more people that have it, the more it can spread.


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