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Bay Kid 07-10-2020 07:45 AM

The virus & BLM
 
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

anothersteve 07-10-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

It's not that they are OK.......nobody wants to, or is going to stop them.

Steve

GoodLife 07-10-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

New York City is banning fairs, parades and concerts over concerns about large gatherings of people amid the threat of the coronavirus. BLM protests are still ok.

1000 health and medical workers recently penned and signed a letter supporting BLM protests: (but not other types of protests)

We can show that support by facilitating safest protesting practices without detracting from demonstrators’ ability to gather and demand change. This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives matter.

Open Letter.pdf - Google Drive

This is why any statements by medical authorities or Doctors should be scrutinized heavily. Some of them are completely driven by bias not medical science.

anothersteve 07-10-2020 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1800908)
New York City is banning fairs, parades and concerts over concerns about large gatherings of people amid the threat of the coronavirus. BLM protests are still ok.

1000 health and medical workers recently penned and signed a letter supporting BLM protests: (but not other types of protests)

[B]We can show that support by facilitating safest protesting practices without detracting from demonstrators’ ability to gather and demand change. This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives matter.

Political double speak, agenda driven.

Steve

gatorbill1 07-10-2020 08:18 AM

Learn to live with it. We were told that you know.

Stu from NYC 07-10-2020 09:41 AM

If anyone at a blm protest gets the virus we will find that the fault is us white racists.

karostay 07-10-2020 10:38 AM

BLM protesters don't respect their own people or cause ! Why should anyone else?
Show some respect for your own people and the rest will resolve it self ..Till then just keep killing each other
Leave the dam kids alone ..Your BLM actions have ruined many a young life far greater than any police interactions have

roscoguy 07-10-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

Don't forget political rallies! Oh, wait. Not very many people actually attend those... :1rotfl:

John41 07-10-2020 11:04 AM

it’s called thinning the herd, a corollary to herd immunity

roscoguy 07-10-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1800908)
New York City is banning fairs, parades and concerts over concerns about large gatherings of people amid the threat of the coronavirus. BLM protests are still ok.

1000 health and medical workers recently penned and signed a letter supporting BLM protests: (but not other types of protests)

We can show that support by facilitating safest protesting practices without detracting from demonstrators’ ability to gather and demand change. This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives matter.

Open Letter.pdf - Google Drive

Well, yeah. They do support "demonstrations against systemic injustice occurring during the COVID-19 pandemic" while encouraging safe practices. They specifically only condemn those "protesting stay-home orders and calls for widespread public masking."
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1800908)
This is why any statements by medical authorities or Doctors should be scrutinized heavily. Some of them are completely driven by bias not medical science.

Boy, you said a mouthful there! (Although we may not agree on which ones.)

Byte1 07-10-2020 01:06 PM

Actually, politicians have it right. Allow BLM full access to the streets and give them a free venue to get sweaty and pass their deadly virus from one to another. That way, we get rid of a lot of trouble makers and no one is the wiser. Since it is an election year, everyone is on board with the theme that there is a systemic racism in America, and no politician will criticize or condemn the protests in fear that they will lose votes. On the other hand, if the virus takes out a few hundred or thousands, no one is to blame but themselves. Typical of chicken liver politicians.

Northwoods 07-10-2020 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1800986)
If anyone at a blm protest gets the virus we will find that the fault is us white racists.

It will never be reported that the person got COVID-19 at a protest. Based on the Mainstream media, there isn't one person who got COVID-19 from a protest.

Stu from NYC 07-10-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1801235)
It will never be reported that the person got COVID-19 at a protest. Based on the Mainstream media, there isn't one person who got COVID-19 from a protest.

Your right it is pandering at its best. Discusting isnt it

camaguey48 07-11-2020 06:25 AM

This group is the most heinous, incendiary and terroristic bunch of people who continue to be given free rein by the mealy mouth politicians and business entities who are afraid to lose votes or business. Our first amendment rights are being systematically destroyed. No one has the guts to speak up for fear of offending the perpetually offended crowd. I speak up for America and against those who wish to destroy her. I emigrated from a communist country (Cuba) and what's happening here happens there daily. The similarities are terrifying and If we want totalitarianism and oppression, look no further than 90 miles south of Key West.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves."
- D.H. Lawrence.

Think about it.

mjpuleo 07-11-2020 06:27 AM

you got that right Stu from NYC -- I'm from NY as well and can vouch who the real troublemakers are and they get away with far too much!!!!

wiltma 07-11-2020 06:54 AM

Most of the protesters wore masks

72lions 07-11-2020 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1801328)
This group is the most heinous, incendiary and terroristic bunch of people who continue to be given free rein by the mealy mouth politicians and business entities who are afraid to lose votes or business. Our first amendment rights are being systematically destroyed. No one has the guts to speak up for fear of offending the perpetually offended crowd. I speak up for America and against those who wish to destroy her. I emigrated from a communist country (Cuba) and what's happening here happens there daily. The similarities are terrifying and If we want totalitarianism and oppression, look no further than 90 miles south of Key West.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves."
- D.H. Lawrence.

Think about it.

1st Amendment rights being destroyed? I think you got that backward. Attempts to suppress speech and assembly would do that.

Bay Kid 07-11-2020 07:09 AM

Fear of BLM is their way to take control. This is a racist, hateful, terrorist group. They are fully backed by one group. Make a donation to them and follow the money, easy to do.

Enough protesting. What are their demands? Who is in charge of them? What the heck will make them happy?

Careyjan 07-11-2020 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wiltma (Post 1801356)
Most of the protesters wore masks

I’ve heard this from my liberal friends. Many protesters must take their masks off for the pictures taken by the media then!

rlcooper70 07-11-2020 07:18 AM

Yes ... data shows no spike after the protests. Reasoning may be simply that there were so many masks. The Tulsa indoor rally for the president, on the other hand, did show big results. Indoors.

Here's an interesting piece from MIT. Relates to indoor spaces and scientists’ evolving thinking. I hope it helps.

If the coronavirus is really airborne, we might be fighting it the wrong way
If the coronavirus is really airborne, we might be fighting it the wrong way | MIT Technology Review

Takeaways:

Staying Safe: “strict mask use” … “the virus sheds like crazy” …. but for masks to really stop the transmission they have to be tight and worn all the time (even around family) .. “sanitizing every single surface … huge waste of time.”

Variables: longer time indoors … restaurants, bars, offices, classrooms, churches. Ventilation needs to be a higher priority (big problem in older buildings). UV Light dissipates the virus in air in less than a minute.

Advice = stay in well ventilated areas with as few people as possible and spend as little time as possible in enclosed spaces.

BlackhawksFan 07-11-2020 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

Look at the video or photos and compare beaches, bars, etc to the protests. The most significant difference is the overwhelming majority of protestors wear masks. Nobody to very few on the beaches or in the bars or at Trump rallies are wearing them.

Masks work.

Guitarman1951 07-11-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

Truth doesn't fit the narrative that the liberal news wants to report.

dewilson58 07-11-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1801373)
They are fully backed by one group.


Who??...........not finding.

Don5154 07-11-2020 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wiltma (Post 1801356)
Most of the protesters wore masks

Pull your head out of the sand !

Stu from NYC 07-11-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1801359)
1st Amendment rights being destroyed? I think you got that backward. Attempts to suppress speech and assembly would do that.

To me all of the pandering to blm is what has me upset.

Not to mention all of the destruction and looting.in their name

GoodLife 07-11-2020 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1801402)
Look at the video or photos and compare beaches, bars, etc to the protests. The most significant difference is the overwhelming majority of protestors wear masks. Nobody to very few on the beaches or in the bars or at Trump rallies are wearing them.

Masks work.

I guess it's just a coincidence that the surge of new cases started 1-2 weeks after Floyd protests (not after reopening which happed 4-6 weeks earlier)

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Majority of protesters wore masks? :shocked:

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waynehal55 07-11-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 72lions (Post 1801359)
1st Amendment rights being destroyed? I think you got that backward. Attempts to suppress speech and assembly would do that.

What's being destroyed are buildings that are looted and burned to the ground.

Nanny32162 07-11-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1801373)
Fear of BLM is their way to take control. This is a racist, hateful, terrorist group. They are fully backed by one group. Make a donation to them and follow the money, easy to do.

Enough protesting. What are their demands? Who is in charge of them? What the heck
will make them happy?

Backed by "one group", which group please is an ambiguous statement. A black Federal judge is a member of our family; he has been stopped for "driving while black" many times. How ofter are white people stopped for "driving while white"? The list goes on and on. This country was built on the backs of Black Americans, but never have they been given the opportunities of other ethnic groups. Suppression has always been the key in the treatment of Black Americans. Suppress a group long enough and they will rise up.

Their demands? To be able to live without fear. To be treated with equality, respect, and dignity. Make them happy, not to be killed because they are black.

OhioBuckeye 07-11-2020 09:15 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Oh, they wouldn’t dare blame BLM or is it, OnlyBLM.

TexaninVA 07-11-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1800893)
The virus is real. We are told beach goers, bars, restaurants, churches, etc. all are the problem. Not BLM marches, riots and protest. They are OK?

That's because science tells us the virus is INCREDIBLY smart. It's able to discriminate between the noble and the great unwashed. Whenever the virus detects a BLM protestor, or even rioter, it says "this is a good person ... do not infect him or her."

There are numerous studies that support this somewhat controversial finding.


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Scorpyo 07-11-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1800986)
If anyone at a blm protest gets the virus we will find that the fault is us white racists.

Why do you always state the obvious? You act like you don't believe it. Haven't you ever heard the following: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." So, I would suggest you go back and read that lie over and over again until you believe it.

Elmartin3 07-11-2020 10:09 AM

All of the above
 
All of the above were part of the increases we have seen. Irresponsible people ls behavior Will always create negative outcomes

cynjim 07-11-2020 10:32 AM

The peaceful protests were outside and most wore masks difference from being in a restaurant and bar with no mask and close contact. And to distinguish the riots were not the majority of peaceful protesters. NOne should have been out but I understand why they all were of all colors protesting for what should have been taken care of years ago... racism

Doro22 07-11-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1801328)
This group is the most heinous, incendiary and terroristic bunch of people who continue to be given free rein by the mealy mouth politicians and business entities who are afraid to lose votes or business. Our first amendment rights are being systematically destroyed. No one has the guts to speak up for fear of offending the perpetually offended crowd. I speak up for America and against those who wish to destroy her. I emigrated from a communist country (Cuba) and what's happening here happens there daily. The similarities are terrifying and If we want totalitarianism and oppression, look no further than 90 miles south of Key West.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves."
- D.H. Lawrence.

Think about it.

Excellent post. I was born & raised in S. Fl. and have several Cuban friends. They know what it was like to have come from socialism. :coolsmiley:

jjp2532 07-11-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1801328)
This group is the most heinous, incendiary and terroristic bunch of people who continue to be given free rein by the mealy mouth politicians and business entities who are afraid to lose votes or business. Our first amendment rights are being systematically destroyed. No one has the guts to speak up for fear of offending the perpetually offended crowd. I speak up for America and against those who wish to destroy her. I emigrated from a communist country (Cuba) and what's happening here happens there daily. The similarities are terrifying and If we want totalitarianism and oppression, look no further than 90 miles south of Key West.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves."
- D.H. Lawrence.

Think about it.

Totally agree.

transplanted 07-11-2020 11:07 AM

Ridiculous. Totally free pass on anything and everything. BOHICA!!!

Danz654 07-11-2020 11:16 AM

Not ok. It’s a joke. The mayor of New York has lost his mind. How did anyone get a job like that with the mentality of a grape. The news is a lot of the blame. They never say the protesters are spreading of the virus , but the bars beaches are the problem. Nobody can deny that fake news is real. You would think the news would not be impartial. Now because of there latest reputation, you don’t know what to believe. Simple as that

Stu from NYC 07-11-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1801548)
Why do you always state the obvious? You act like you don't believe it. Haven't you ever heard the following: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." So, I would suggest you go back and read that lie over and over again until you believe it.

What is a lie that I keep saying? blm and its followers are now destroying the history of our country where now our founding fathers are not heroes but racists.

Everything they do not like is the fault of the old white guys.

Sorry but do not believe that for a moment. This is the greatest country in the world and we owe a huge debt to the people who came before us. Do we have faults? Of course but we have made a huge amount of progress.

Scorpyo 07-11-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1801630)
What is a lie that I keep saying? blm and its followers are now destroying the history of our country where now our founding fathers are not heroes but racists.

Everything they do not like is the fault of the old white guys.

Sorry but do not believe that for a moment. This is the greatest country in the world and we owe a huge debt to the people who came before us. Do we have faults? Of course but we have made a huge amount of progress.

I didn’t say you were saying a lie. I was saying you refuse to believe lies. So go back and reread the lies till you believe them.

Scorpyo 07-11-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1801630)
What is a lie that I keep saying? blm and its followers are now destroying the history of our country where now our founding fathers are not heroes but racists.

Everything they do not like is the fault of the old white guys.

Sorry but do not believe that for a moment. This is the greatest country in the world and we owe a huge debt to the people who came before us. Do we have faults? Of course but we have made a huge amount of progress.

It gets really annoying when people cannot read my mind. What’s with that? I’ve read so many responses to posts where people obviously were able to read other people’s minds. So I thought that was a given. Guess I was wrong yet again. You said something about white racists will be blamed if BLM gets the virus. We know they will blame us and we know that blame will be a lie. However if we listen to their lie enough times we’ll begin to believe we’re white racists and caused them to get the virus. Reparations will definitely be in order. So instead of calling them lies just keep listening to their lies and eventually you’ll believe them. Worked for me. I kept telling my wife I was a nice guy. Eventually she married me. Proof in the pudding.


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