Florida Has More Covid Cases than Most Countries
 

It seems there is no end in sight for the escalation of cases in our state.
Other states seem to be doing so much more

What matters is seriousness of cases. Hospitalizations and death rates. Those numbers are much more positive.

I am not an expert. My logic indicates an escalation of case numbers, will result in increased hospitalizations with increased deaths to follow
I hope I’m wrong

Well the 15-34 age group account for 102,000 of the cases with a death rate of 0.0004. So it might not go up as much as the MSM would like.

See this thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...umbers-309000/

And 80% of them are in three counties. When the bars were re-opened young people went to them in droves and ignored social distancing protocols. Many bar owners seeking to make up for lost revenue ignored occupancy rates. That is why most of the new cases are in the 18-40 year old demographic and in Miami Dade, Palm Beach and Broward counties. The party capital of Florida.

In addition to that, there are a lot of numbers that we are not seeing and rumors about how some of the numbers are determined.

It's been said that if a person is tested three times and is positive all three times that that is counted as three positive cases.

Also consider that Florida with a population of 21.4 million is larger than many countries.

Thank you
I read the referenced thread
It seems to address available hospital beds
It’s good to know we have capacity. My concern is not the number of beds but rather the dramatic increase in the number of cases

Coronavirus: How did Florida get so badly hit by Covid-19? - BBC News
Here is another viewpoint

Also consider that Florida with a population of 21.4 million is larger than many countries.[/QUOTE]
That’s a good point however when you consider the recent infection rate per percent of the population we move up in rank not down

If what has been said is true that if a person is tested three times, for example, and all three tests come back positive, those three positive tests count as three "positive cases". That is totally ludicrous! I will not waste one more brain cell (don't have too many to spare) with concern for the amount of " positive cases" we have here in Florida. That number is not accurately telling how many PEOPLE have been infected.

I would bet they are counted as a new case each time...no cross referencing or follow up....status per swab.

No it’s not accurate for the reasons that you state as well as the people that are asymptomatic The studies have shown the infection rates are higher than those published for this reason

I see California had to close down
I hope the same doesn’t happen to us

Do all countries have the same number of citizens?

Problem is are they real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered some sites were reporting all people tested were positive for Covid when they were not positive
It’s an election year nothing is real
Verify verify verify more important than trust

COVID-19 Questions
 

Two issues:
1) Quality of the testing: If places doing the testing are reporting 100% positives, something is wrong. Not feasible!
2) Quantity of testing: We test more - we get more negatives & positives. Simple math.

It is still a concern for all of us, but I'm personally skeptical with some of the data.

Oh no!
 

Just stay in your house and do t go out. You do to want to be a number!

Florida may be doing more testing than any other state in the US. You do more testing you’re going to find more cases. That doesn’t mean they’re severe cases. United States has done over 50 million tests. No other country has done that. People need to lose the paranoia! 99% survival rate.

Just curious how many recoveries?

On a list of 235 countries in order by population, Florida would be placed 58th.

Florida has a larger population than most countries.

I thought as much also although the death rate is climbing Yesterday was 132

It would be helpful if you provided any positive ideas that you have regarding this virus

What is the purpose of posting that California had to close down???? My take is that the purpose is to convey to those who refuse to wear masks that Florida is heading toward another lock down if people do not do their part to slow the spread of the virus. It happened to California and it can happen here too.

I have been saying all along that if we do not do our part to slow the virus, our economy is not going to recover. "Our part" meaning wear a mask in public when social distancing is not guaranteed. I have never been a proponent of mask wearing OUTDOORS when it is easy to distance yourself. Wearing a mask INDOORS is imperative, IMHO, when you are unable to distance yourself from others.

A family member in Arizona said testing there is not nearly as much as the testing here in Florida. In Arizona they don't have much testing and when they do test there are long lines of people waiting for hours in 110 degree temperature. So many of them are not tested.

Just saw this:
ERRORS FOUND: Florida's positivity rate is skewed. #FOX35 went through #COVID19 test reports & found many clinics reporting 100% positivity. @orlandohealth admits their number is wrong, saying it shows 98% positive, but it's actually 9.4%.

So spin the news and the data to make it seem better than it is, like many on this thread like to do. Anyone can pick and choose their data and news reports to support a notion. What this is all about is that many here do not want to wear a mask and are looking for any excuse to down play the situation so they can justify it in their own mind because they know that freedom does NOT include a right to put others in harm’s way. I think I will continue to believe the real experts, first responders, etc. instead of the self-appointed mefirster experts on this site.

Looking at the news reporting is being reported wrong, lots of discrepancies. Many of the testing facilities are only reporting positive cases of covid not the amount of test done 1000 test done and 5 positive = 0.5% The facilities in alot of areas have been sending it in like this 5 test done 5 positive = 100%

In population, Florida would rank 57th in the world.

Also, people forget that even if you survive this virus the possible lasting effects are lung damage, heart issues, blot clots and even brain damage.

Florida also has more population than a lot of countries and most states.

I am not very concerned. I look at the amount of deaths attributed to COVID19 in the Sumter Co. area of the Villages. The last I checked, it was no higher than 8 or 9 deaths total. Only one in the last couple of weeks. There are a lot of seniors living in the Sumter Co. portion of the Villages, so the chances are pretty low that I will catch it and if I do, perish from it. Selfish? Most of us are more concerned about our own family before others.
We have more infected because we are finding out by testing hundreds more than before. Look at the line of those waiting at Laurel Manor or at one of the other places. I had to go inside of CVS to get my wife's meds because of the long drive up line waiting to be tested. Most of those tested have NO symptoms and never will.
Tell me that the death rate explodes and I will be concerned. Tell me that the hospital beds in The Villages are full of infected, then I will be concerned. Otherwise, it's all just Mass Hysteria as far as I am concerned.

Wear your mask, gloves, eye protection and wash your hands and you will feel much better about it.

My house cleaner went for a test with several others but after registering they could not wait until they got the test and went home. But no problem they all received notices that they tested positive.

I think our ultimate goal, as a civilization, is to develop herd immunity. In order to do that, we need for citizens to acquire Covid-19 slowly enough to not overwhelm our hospitals. As with any pandemic, people will die. It is a fact. Regardless of what the media tells you we are successfully accomplishing that goal. It is the only way because Covid-19 will be here next year, the year after that, and so on. It very well may be years before an effective inoculation in available. We need to face reality. We need to reopen businesses before we totally ruin our economy. And people will die as they do in every pandemic.

FLORIDA:
Population: 21.48 million
Covid cases: 292,000
Covid deaths 4408

NY
Population: 8.39 thousand
Covid cases: 408.000
Covid deaths: 32,092

UK
Population: 66.65 million
Covid cases: 292,000
Covid deaths: 45,053

Now, tell me how badly Florida is doing. I would think number of deaths count.

COVID deaths of people who get Social Security
 

The government has always wanted to cutback on Social Security. Well it seems to me they are doing just that. Seniors are dying and some children being forced to go back to school collect social security disability. I would love to know the stats on this. Florida has many Americans who fall into these categories.

Two things occurred today to indicate that case numbers are inflated. First, the CDC said that northerners are coming south to vacation and are increasing the number of cases. Secondly, over 300 testing centers in Florida have had a 100% positivity rate... an impossibility. That means that EVERYONE they tested was infected. Excuse my French, BULL. More people die in car accidents than form the "bug," but that didn't shut down a thriving economy. For French coming &$#*@!

How do you know that herd immunity is even possible. Do you know that if you get COVID-19 you are permanently protected, that the antibodies are so long lasting. Will the virus mutate? Why do we need annual flu vaccines and have not developed herd immunity? So much is not known and we need to trust medical experts to develop strategies, treatments and vaccinations.

This chart says it all:

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Florida would be 58th in population, but 9th in number of cases excluding the U.S.

Now that all information will not go to CDC, but rather to "others", we will see a rapid reduction in cases.