POLL: Why do some spread Pandemic Panic?
 

1. They get a vicarious thrill in scaring their neighbors
2. They think spreading panic will cause more people to wear masks
3. Misery loves company- I'm stressed out and you should be too
4. They are working on boosting stress Cardiomyopathy
5. Something to do with November
6. All of the above

You must have missed this thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...safety-308636/

While taking a swim I came up with two more categories, I don't know if I can edit the actual poll.

7. They mean well, but naively believe everything the media throws at them
8. Since they are in a high risk category themselves, they want the whole world shut down until they personally feel safe.

Today's society has no life skills direction or experiences.
They have been electronically raised by video games ,cell phones ,computers Twitter, Face Book.
They can't disseminate whats true or false only whats popular at the moment
They live in an imaginary life that doesn't exists only a fantasy they wish others to belive they are living
Make their existence more important they 're attempting to erase our past

My humble opinion is if those who believe this virus panic is being overblown had to pay the cost of it including stimulus payments, $600 unemployment bonuses, forgivable loans to all kinds of businesses, medical costs that taxpayers are on hook for, etc., instead of passing it on to their children and grandchildren they would indeed wear a mask and a paper bag over their heads for extra protection.

So far "something to do with November" has a narrow lead over "all of the above"

It's too bad I couldn't add a couple new ones, like this, which is my personal choice.

8. Since they are in a high risk category themselves, they want the whole world shut down until they personally feel safe.

We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.

Don't worry, the media will still report everything in the most overblown manner possible.

You mean the 132 deaths reported yesterday, "Florida's deadliest day ever"

Check the dashboard, only 17 actually died yesterday, the rest from earlier dates. You don't know the true death rate until about a month after the fact.

The death rate has ticked upward in the last month. You would expect that with so many new cases. But median age of new cases has been 35-40 so the people who are dying are the people in that age group that have pre existing health problems (healthy people under 50 rarely die) and older people who are out there mixing it up and taking too many chances.

I think this surge of new cases will peak before the end of the month and then start going down. We are not going to be another New York

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"Check the dashboard, only 17 actually died yesterday, the rest from earlier dates. You don't know the true death rate until about a month after the fact."

No 17 people didn't die yesterday. 17 people died and their deaths were reported the first day. Reports of people that died July 14th will continue to come in for many days. In the end it will be a much larger number than 17. We do know the deaths reported during the last two days has averaged 120 a day. Since the number of cases has expanded in the last several weeks, it's likely the deaths will follow that pattern. Until we get it stabilized they will continue to rise.

Why do some ‘spread pandemic panic’?
 

Astonishing really that supposedly intelligent, educated people can argue with the scientific evidence out there, not to mention ignoring the fact that thousands in Italy, Spain, the UK AND the USA contracted this new virus and are now six feet under. Do you seriously believe the dead are ‘made up’?

Huh?

Some have observed that Individuals who have more education, greater life accomplishments, and respect for others are more likely to wear masks

Sorry, but anyone that doesn’t understand the value and necessity of wearing masks by this point is simply a fool, and no amount of reasoning will make a difference in their behavior.

Why don’t you man up to issue on hand instead of insinuating only one point of view. Afraid to add number 10 to your poll.......I am trying to protect others and our economy by relying on our medical experts and advisors on what I can do to stop the spread. You have no respect for those that have died....real numbers, my friend.

Couldn’t agree more

Some have observed that Individuals who have more education, greater life accomplishments, and respect for others are more likely to wear masks.

Sorry, but anyone that doesn’t understand the value and necessity of wearing masks by this point is simply a fool, and no amount of reasoning will make a difference in their behavior.

Why don’t you man up to issue on hand instead of insinuating only one point of view. Afraid to add number 10 to your poll.......I am trying to protect others and our economy by relying on our medical experts and advisors on what I can do to stop the spread. You have no respect for those that have died....real numbers, my friend.

I'm not making fun of people who wear masks. I am making fun of people who push pandemic panic to scare other people into wearing masks.

Personally, I don't use a mask because I don't go into any buildings other than my own home, and stay 20 feet from any people when I am outside my home. People that are older and have pre existing conditions who insist on going to supermarkets in person or eating in restaurants are, mask or not, taking bigger chances at catching or spreading the virus than I am. The cloth masks are not 100% effective so personally I do not take the risk. So who is acting in the safest manner????

Mask are not going to stop the virus, they may slow it down a bit, but it will spread until we reach herd immunity or an effective vaccine is developed.

Read this thread and you will understand.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...safety-308636/

Nobody should be worrying. The change in reporting structure, taking it completely away from medical experts, will insure good positive numbers in the future.

No other reason to "go around" CDC, and allow "others" to get all numbers for reporting.

The improvement coming soon and continuing till November will be startling

Agree!

Poll
 

They all have to realize that this populace resides in "Bubbleland" where they can make up there own 'reality' (Alternate facts) and try and comfort themselves in them while trying to deny the science (Black sharpie anyone?) or tighten up for the time being under the economic conditions.

That change is very troubling indeed. It makes all of us cringe to see those Covid-19 numbers not being handled by the CDC.

We need so badly to have valid numbers available to us for our decision making. Most of us understand that those in charge are facing two terrible calamities; The Pandemic and extreme collapse of the national economy which also will cause death and further calamity. Novembers decisions changed for me the second that government leaders downplayed medical science. A sad day indeed.

I think most of us STRONGLY wish that we were allowed to evaluate the situation like adults with valid numbers and reputable people in science and government helping us.

Totally agree!

Because the pandemic is real..those who don't believe so are not only Stupid but more than likely spreaderd

The CDC gets their case and death numbers from each state, they are just an aggregator. If you want data from Florida or any other state, just go to their site.

Agreed. It seems several of the people posting are well educated. However, some have no common sense and pushing their own agendas.
137k people dead? Must be a media hoax.

Yep... the worse it gets, the farther we are pushed away from the truth.

Originally Posted by Bucco
We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.

This is complete nonsense. The CDC just aggregates the numbers each individual State reports. Each State has it's own covid 19 data site. The numbers will continue to be available to everyone.

Perhaps you think all 50 states will engage in a conspiracy to lower their numbers?

Hospitals Must Report COVID-19 Data To New System Instead Of CDC : Shots - Health News : NPR

White House to hospitals: Bypass CDC, report COVID-19 data directly to HHS | Healthcare IT News

Its the doggone media again.

White House Freezes CDC Out Of Covid Data Reporting, May Ask States To Use National Guard To Help

Please explain how this is "complete nonsense". Each hospital BYPASSES CDC and reports to HHS, staffed with ????. National Guard will insure compliance.

LOL more panic being spread in a thread about why people spread it.

It doesn't matter. The States all have their own sites where data on cases, deaths, hospitalizations etc is published for all to see. I can find out everything that's happening in Florida without ever going to CDC website. THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE

The CDC website is just an aggregator of data and it's actually quite cumbersome to use. I hope the new system allows me to search for things better. This whole theme that the data is going to be corrupted is a joke. Besides all the individual State websites that publish all relevant data, there are tons of independent sites that do a very good job of aggregating national data.

You do know that HHS oversees the CDC and always has right? It's nonsense to spread panic that the "numbers will be corrupted" because they are trying to streamline data reporting. Individual States will still publish all data on their own websites. That's where the numbers come from. Do you think all 50 states will conspire to corrupt the data?

Director of CDC Redfield

"No one is taking access or data away from CDC,"

Then the media trots out various experts to say why this is alarming. :ohdear:

Isn't that a "response?"

Don't know if it fits but it seems like MASS HYSTERIA is a factor. Many weaker individuals are prone to panic when the going gets a little difficult. But, you have proven in your other threads that you can't FIX it with facts.

Just to be clear. 17 people have died from Covid-19 in The Villages since "they" started counting those deaths in March. They didn't die yesterday. All told.

Failed? I guess some folks do not have a sense of humor. I have a relative in the hospital, fighting for his life on a respirator but I can still enjoy a bit of levity.

Did someone on here suggest NOT WEARING A MASK? I guess my education is not sufficient to read someone's mind via their post that does not suggest anything related to that assumption.

People don't like to be ridiculed. Especially pandemic panic spreaders.

You are aware of WHO the spokesperson for the HHS is ?

Reading half the responses on here, it appears that Mass Hysteria is spreading it's ugly head. Gotta love the responses that suggest that they are "smarter and more educated" than you because they "believe" it is the end of the world.

I live in Sumter Co. and there have been 18 deaths total (or was it 17?). BUT, I believe there has only been 8 or 9 deaths in The Villages portion of Sumter Co. Not sure, because I have to rely on iffy reporting. 8 or 9 deaths in the past six months of this thing does not panic me. I wear my homemade mask like a good soldier and was even wearing gloves and eye protection when this thing started and we had less information to guide us. But, no matter how much precaution you take, there are always those that "KNOW" much more than us and are much more "educated" that will force their demands upon us, so as to protect them.

Infections go up as more testing data accumulates. That's just logical and for those that are "educated" it's "science." More importantly is the ratio of persons that test positive and are hospitalized and then add to that the amount of deaths and the actual dates of death. 8 or 9 deaths total suggests that we do not have as much problem here as in other areas, so we should look to see how we differ in our efforts. I shop about once a week for my spouse until things get better, but I see half of the other shoppers without masks. And yet, we still have a low mortality rate. Something to think about.

Breaking news
 

You missed the everywhere news that the Glorida State Health Dept. has been VASTLY exaggerating COVID test positives and that labs have been reporting NO negatives. We are being scammed. (follow the money)