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Is there a double standard at work here?
A question: (I don't have a dog in this fight)
Three people were arrested and charged with "vandalism" for pouring blue paint on a lane of 5th Ave. in front of Trump Tower that had previously had "Black Lives Matter" painted in yellow on the right lane of this public road. If applying blue paint to a public roadway is "vandalism", isn't applying yellow paint the same thing?????? Where are those arrests??? |
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Depends on if you are in a trashy city or one the beautiful cities of America. In Richmond, VA, at the Lee statue, a gentleman showed up in broad daylight and started cleaning the vulgar language. Protesters called the police and he was removed. Then the protesters painted F--- the police back on the statue.
Something is really wrong in this country. |
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Most of the opinions we hear or read are from the news editors from the three major networks and they all live and work in Manhattan. Those people until this epidemic, sat knees to knees with people who had VERY similar opinions and together those people coined the very same "new phrases" we hear..........and those people didn't have a farmer among them or a realtor, or a classroom teacher or a trash collector or a landscaper etc. etc. They also seem to adhere to the notion that unless you are college educated you are not worthy of being listened to. Also the experts who are doctors that they interview, those doctors have not seen a naked patient in years and years........... |
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Very strange |
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Remember when current events meant discussion of taxes, or such thing. Not always an attack on someone, justified or not. Just fight...that is the goal of some. |
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The people of NYC can vote. |
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I am sad that some good police feel "disrespected" but remind them that respect is earned and once lost can be regained by good acts. Point out the bad ones in your ranks. Exactly the same dynamic has happened within the Catholic church. Very very few of its clergy were pedophiles. But all were tainted with that suspicion because too often their peers and their leaders covered up what they knew or suspected. If the church had promptly acted to remove the criminals the fall out would have been so much less. Instead the institution of the Church protected itself, like the police unions do. One big difference is that the Church is a private organization which does not owe any allegiance or obligation to the citizens. Police are sworn to a whole different set of obligations. The government needs to support, fund, and recruit good men and women into police careers. It also needs to have strong policies to root out bad cops and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. |
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The vandals were just vandals who wanted to ruin something someone else did. |
Painting it in front of Trump Tower?.............c'mon! uncalled for of DeBlasio if you ask me, pandering at a childish level. Oh the things I would love to say about that "Mayor"
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The only "disrespect" for police I see in this thread, are from posters who have a problem with police arresting vandals, and NOT arresting people who painted a mural on authority of the city's government. In other words - people criticizing the police for doing their jobs.
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Roads are public property to be used by everyone, and should not be treated as bulletin boards with loaded messages. Makes for distracted driving. In an effort to ignore messages people will start ignoring traffic signage as well assuming it is some kind of effort to manipulate their thinking. I also really dislike large digital bill boards by the road which take my attention off traffic.
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That's a pretty big leap. I’d say one side wants support for the vast majority of the good police officers and swift, firm justice for the bad. And the other side wants rioting, looting, and anarchy. Question: What communities have less crime. Those that support and work in conjunction with their police departments or those that do not support nor work with their police departments? The place we do have common ground is I believe the police unions are too strong and make it possible to keep people not suited for the job on the force. |
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I thought they were protesters. Isn't that what has been going on all over the country? Shouldn't they be protected from being harassed by law enforcement? After all, what's a little graffiti, a few broken windows, a few fires, destroyed statues, demolished vehicles, etc? |
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Here is a picture of a Non-City workers laying yellow paint on the street. |
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Why are some defacing acts tolerated, yet others are arrested and considered vandalism? |
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No no it was painted by deblazio, his wife and....none other than .the "rev" al sharpton
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Was the "Gentleman" who struck the Police officer (Chief) on the Brooklyn bridge with a pole a protester, vandal or attempted murderer.
He hit the Officer with a lethal weapon , not in self defense, but in an attempt that could kill him. Some would say that if a police officer did that, he was attempting to unjustly murder. So, what happened to this person? I do not know for sure, but have heard he was apprehended, but released. Do not know if that is true. Anyone observing this incident should be just as upset as those who are with the Police Officer who "murdered" George Floyd. Yet the world is going crazy about the inhumane treatment given to George Floyd, but where is the same sentiment towards this incident where the intent was the same. And, the attacker supposedly released. Seems like attempted murder. Why no protests against this? Hard to accept posts as legitimate from those that accept this activity as OK , but are vocal in criticizing "Vandals" who paint over vindictive BLM "Murals". The guy who hit the Police Officer should be in jail and charged with attempted murder. Just as bad as the Police Officer who killed George Floyd. One succeeded, one failed, both just as bad. In fact, one might argue that the Police Officer and George had an encounter, and a fight that ended in death, but that the "Gentleman" just chose/selected" someone to attack even though not engaged with that person. Same attempt though. The fact that he may have been released is unthinkable. If that did happen, we are lost. |
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They don't seem to be. But I do agree with you. |
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Your rephrase: Originally Posted by BS Beef View Post Quote:
BLM does not support rioting or looting or anarchy. Those are the same tropes that were used to attack John Lewis and MLK, the anti-war protestors during Vietnam and the Gulf Wars. |
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BLM does not support rioting or looting or anarchy. [/QUOTE] Seriously? BLM is a Marxist organization dedicated to the overthrow of the Government and our current economic system. Read their Manifesto. They may profess to not support rioting and anarchy but their active cells country wide sure do. Where do you think the orders are coming from? |
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How did they ever get a permit approve Good Ol boy club
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speaking of a double standard ...
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(CNN)New York City is painting a Black Lives Matter mural on the street directly outside of Trump Tower in Midtown Manhattan. City employees began painting a stretch of Fifth Avenue, just in front of the Trump Organization's headquarters, on Thursday morning. Mayor Bill de Blasio authorized the stark yellow mural earlier this month. Black Lives Matter mural painted outside Trump Tower in Manhattan - CNN And don't tell me CNN is a fake news channel. |
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I was raised in New York, worked in the city for many years both in lower Manhattan and Midtown. The police were always friendly and helpful. Now the inmates have taken over the asylum! It was once said that the United States would never be defeated from "with out" but only from "within". That is exactly what is being attempted today. I am sure as has been said many times that the protestors/thugs/etc. are not just random but rather well organized! The persecution of some of the Afro-American's is playing right into their hands and are again being abused by these criminal anti American's. Did you see the articale in the Sunday times which indicated the Villager's are "evil" and promoted that one protester who embarased us to the world? Nothing like this happens without consequences and that's the next shoe to fall. As I have said, those that want to throw slings and arrows at this, have at it.:ohdear:
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There have been arrests in the present and ongoing protests for acts of "good trouble" There have been arrests for destruction of statues. There have been arrests for breaking curfews. There have been arrests for refusing to disperse. There have been what many regard as kidnapping by unknown agents of people walking down the street and never charged or given a reason for their detention. And yes, there have been arrests of people for defacing the BLM street painting. If you commit such acts you accept the risk of arrest. I am sure those who are being arrested knew that when they acted and felt their acts were "good trouble" YMMV |
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Only now with ubiquitous cellphone cameras is the way in which POC too often are subjected to authoritarian abuse by LEOs being seen. You can easily dismiss this as it is contrary to your experience. But when POC tell you that they see everyday interaction with LEOs as being fraught, you should believe them. They believe your assertion that you have never had a problem with police being difficult. |
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