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OmniTours 07-21-2020 10:46 AM

What happens when cruise ships retire
 
What happens when cruise ships retire

Hundreds of cruise ships usually traverse the world's waters, but right now -- with the cruise industry on an indefinite hold due to the coronavirus pandemic -- they're mostly laid up at sea with no passengers.
Last month, cruise giant Carnival Corporation announced plans to remove at least six cruise ships from its fleet, with 23-year-old Costa Victoria earmarked for demolition.
When the cruise industry tentatively restarts, it'll likely be on a smaller scale -- and vessels that were once star players could end up bowing out early.
But what happens when a cruise company decides to retire a ship?
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Stu from NYC 07-21-2020 12:08 PM

Thanks for sharing this.

Especially sad when ships we have sailed on go to the scrapyards.

Carla B 07-21-2020 03:09 PM

Thanks, also. That was very interesting. I wonder if there will be a trend away from huge cruise ships. The smaller ships, like the "Pacific Princess," always appealed to us.

Stu from NYC 07-21-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1806955)
I'm just curious what makes this an issue for the OP

you have the ability to choose whatever line/ship/destination that you want

They seem to be a TA and make a living selling cruises.

Stu from NYC 07-21-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1806889)
Thanks, also. That was very interesting. I wonder if there will be a trend away from huge cruise ships. The smaller ships, like the "Pacific Princess," always appealed to us.

We prefer larger ones more stuff to do and see.

We did like the one cruise we did on Pacific Princess but larger ships with more varied entertainment work better for us.

mtdjed 07-21-2020 09:58 PM

I think there will be a lot of retired cruise ships. I just got my refund for my canceled trip after waiting 3 months.

drrjstacie 07-22-2020 05:46 AM

I was able to visit a ship wrecking area in Chittagong, Bangladesh. The workers team to carry heavy items as much of the work is done manually. Difficult and dangerous.

Skip 07-22-2020 05:51 AM

Some still going...
 
Remember way back to July, 1956? That's 64 years ago this month. I was a kid. The ocean liner MS Stockholm collided with the SS Andrea Doria and sank her off the coast of Nantucket? Well the Stockholm is still sailing the oceans!!! We've seen her twice in our world cruising over the recent years. She has a distinctive stern and easily recognizable. Today she's known as the MV Astoria (and registered in Portugal). It's the 11th name she's had since being built in 1948. That makes her 72 years old and still going - LIKE MANY OF US!

PS: The Queen Mary (1936) is still afloat in Long Beach, CA. The United States (1952) is still afloat in Philadelphia. Queen Elizabeth-II (1969) is still afloat in Dubai.

So there's hope for some.

Skip

Stu from NYC 07-22-2020 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1807042)
Remember way back to July, 1956? That's 64 years ago this month. I was a kid. The ocean liner MS Stockholm collided with the SS Andrea Doria and sank her off the coast of Nantucket? Well the Stockholm is still sailing the oceans!!! We've seen her twice in our world cruising over the recent years. She has a distinctive stern and easily recognizable. Today she's known as the MV Astoria (and registered in Portugal). It's the 11th name she's had since being built in 1948. That makes her 72 years old and still going - LIKE MANY OF US!

PS: The Queen Mary (1936) is still afloat in Long Beach, CA. The United States (1952) is still afloat in Philadelphia. Queen Elizabeth-II (1969) is still afloat in Dubai.

So there's hope for some.

Skip

A few years ago we spent a night at the Queen Mary hotel and walked all over it. Amazing how cruise ships have changed in last 25 years.

Marshaw 07-22-2020 09:15 AM

Not the final destination but when old and tired they take short cruise like 3day from caneveral to Bahamas and back

Number 10 GI 07-22-2020 09:33 AM

I spent 10 days on a troop ship in 1966 going to Germany. Cured me of ever wanting to travel on a ship no matter how luxurious.

Sherrilee 07-22-2020 09:56 AM

Why don’t they find a open area to buy... and dock it and sell apts - maybe off a island - coast of Mexico— ??

jimhurtt@twc.com 07-22-2020 05:45 PM

Interesting. While in the Army as an EM in 1965 I was sent to my posting in Germany by commercial air.

Stu from NYC 07-22-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherrilee (Post 1807194)
Why don’t they find a open area to buy... and dock it and sell apts - maybe off a island - coast of Mexico— ??

Rather small and no place to do any cooking. Also most cabins have one perhaps two electrical outlets.

Marvic 1 07-22-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1807382)
Rather small and no place to do any cooking. Also most cabins have one perhaps two electrical outlets.

4 cabins or so can be turned into a studio apartment.. :)

JoMar 07-22-2020 10:00 PM

There is guy on youtube and he posts under "tips for Travelers", have been following for a couple years and his information is pretty accurate. He has a couple posts that may prevent us from cruising again, medical requirements for over 60 and possible segregation, theaters down to 50%, buffets will be history. I also saw one of the CEO's of a major cruise line and he also discussed some of those changes including the medical requirements and segregation. That may change over time but the initial return and several years following will be different.

bilcon 07-23-2020 07:22 AM

Cruising vs Herding
 
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1807186)
I spent 10 days on a troop ship in 1966 going to Germany. Cured me of ever wanting to travel on a ship no matter how luxurious.

There is a big difference between traveling on a luxury liner and traveling on a troop ship. Seriously. I cross the North Atlantic 4 time in the 1950's on military ships.

You don't know what you are missing on today's ships. Maybe you just don't like ships. If you can't handle going on the water, I feel for you. Nothing worst than getting sea sick. Fortunately I never had the problem.

Stu from NYC 07-23-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1807418)
There is guy on youtube and he posts under "tips for Travelers", have been following for a couple years and his information is pretty accurate. He has a couple posts that may prevent us from cruising again, medical requirements for over 60 and possible segregation, theaters down to 50%, buffets will be history. I also saw one of the CEO's of a major cruise line and he also discussed some of those changes including the medical requirements and segregation. That may change over time but the initial return and several years following will be different.

We cruise quite often and miss it quite a bit right now.

If they have to make changes like you described it will end cruising as we know it.

We have no interest in cruising with a mask on so until their is a vaccine and things return to normal, cruising for us is not going to happen.

Number 10 GI 07-23-2020 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1807533)
There is a big difference between traveling on a luxury liner and traveling on a troop ship. Seriously. I cross the North Atlantic 4 time in the 1950's on military ships.

You don't know what you are missing on today's ships. Maybe you just don't like ships. If you can't handle going on the water, I feel for you. Nothing worst than getting sea sick. Fortunately I never had the problem.

I only got sick once and that was because the smell of vomit that permeated the ship below the main deck, then I got used to it. Other wise I was fine, but when you have 1,700 guys on a ship with half of them sea sick, it leaves a lasting impression. I realize that a troop ship is nothing like modern cruise ships but it's like when you eat so much of something and get sick on it, you never want to eat it again. I'm glad people like cruises but I have ABSOLUTELY no desire to go on one.

Stu from NYC 07-23-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1807702)
I only got sick once and that was because the smell of vomit that permeated the ship below the main deck, then I got used to it. Other wise I was fine, but when you have 1,700 guys on a ship with half of them sea sick, it leaves a lasting impression. I realize that a troop ship is nothing like modern cruise ships but it's like when you eat so much of something and get sick on it, you never want to eat it again. I'm glad people like cruises but I have ABSOLUTELY no desire to go on one.

Cruising is certainly not for everyone. For many years remembered how I would get sea sick whenever I went fishing with my dad but eventually wife beat me down so we did it loved it and keep going back.

JoMar 07-23-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1807664)
We cruise quite often and miss it quite a bit right now.

If they have to make changes like you described it will end cruising as we know it.

We have no interest in cruising with a mask on so until their is a vaccine and things return to normal, cruising for us is not going to happen.

We're at 34 cruises (rookies) and agree with you....not sure we will cruise under the new rules.

Stu from NYC 07-23-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1807745)
We're at 34 cruises (rookies) and agree with you....not sure we will cruise under the new rules.

We have two cruises booked for next year. If we have to wear a mask and socially distant we will cancel both.

However first is not till next April so there is time for a vaccine putting an end to this.


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