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Lottoguy 07-28-2020 10:02 AM

Hacienda Hills Demolition
 
What are your thoughts on this demolition of the Hacienda Hills restaurant and pool area? Does anyone have any idea what is going to happen to this property?
THE VILLAGES - Demolition of Hacienda Hills - YouTube

bilcon 07-28-2020 10:04 AM

Costco? Not that again.

Bogie Shooter 07-28-2020 10:24 AM

Thought & ideas.
Previous threads on this topic.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...light=hacienda
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...light=hacienda
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...8/#post1809354

davem4616 07-28-2020 11:05 AM

I read somewhere that Theatre del Sol was using The Sharon as a venue for live performances because it allowed for better social distancing seating. Wasn't the Hacienda where Theatre del Sol been performing?

JSR22 07-28-2020 11:42 AM

no
 
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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1809929)
I read somewhere that Theatre del Sol was using The Sharon as a venue for live performances because it allowed for better social distancing seating. Wasn't the Hacienda where Theatre del Sol been performing?

The Black Box Theater is at Tierra del Sol.

davem4616 07-28-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1809945)
The Black Box Theater is at Tierra del Sol.

thanks for clarifying....that theatre is a nice venue and it would have been a disappointment if it had been torn down

Mleeja 07-28-2020 05:38 PM

A 10 story apartment complex!

thelegges 07-28-2020 11:45 PM

Along with other threads about the demo, pretty sure no one one this site has a clue what will be built there. But speculation does take up ones time.

algi45 07-29-2020 05:59 AM

Much as your reply seems to be in jest, I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of apartment or condominium living facility built since that seems to be in demand.

Bay Kid 07-29-2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by algi45 (Post 1810146)
Much as your reply seems to be in jest, I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of apartment or condominium living facility built since that seems to be in demand.

That would be a shame.

LucyP 07-29-2020 06:14 AM

I heard a setup like Katy Bells.

maryl 07-29-2020 07:16 AM

Hacienda country club restaurant and pool club are beautiful leave it alone Villages
 
Leave Hacienda country club and Restaurant alone it’s beautiful Villages is changing to much since I moved here 6 years ago Planning on moving

mulligan 07-29-2020 07:49 AM

too late, dude. The pool is filled in and they are taking the buildings apart.

Chi-Town 07-29-2020 08:35 AM

Anybody in the area have a photo of the demolition to share?

Scorpyo 07-29-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1810118)
Along with other threads about the demo, pretty sure no one one this site has a clue what will be built there. But speculation does take up ones time.

I'm usually pretty good at speculating. I speculate that they will do something or nothing for awhile. I'd venture to guess I'll be pretty accurate - again. :1rotfl:

Villages Kahuna 07-29-2020 09:35 AM

Not speculation. Sooner or later you’ll be right.

Where have I heard that before?

sdeikenberry 07-29-2020 11:45 AM

Here's an answer...maybe
 
When I recently renewed my priority membership I noticed Hacienda tennis courts and pool were still listed as perks. So I called tennis administration to ask about it. The tennis manager told me a new pro shop and new restaurant would be built but the tennis courts were gone forever. I asked how he knew that? He said during the shut down early last spring he tried to get the tennis courts resurfaced and that's what they told him them. So I'm taking that as a mostly substantiated rumor.

NoMoSno 07-29-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1810258)
Anybody in the area have a photo of the demolition to share?

Hacienda Hills demolition in The Villages, Florida - YouTube

Chi-Town 07-29-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1810383)

Thanks for the video. Pretty sad.

Community Cop 07-29-2020 01:43 PM

Hacienda Hills Demolition
 
This is another Katie-Belle's disaster. Seems the developers only concerns lie south of Route 44.








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queasy27 07-29-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1810118)
Along with other threads about the demo, pretty sure no one one this site has a clue what will be built there.

I have no strong feelings about the Morses one way or the other, but sometimes do idly wonder about their seeming reluctance to share information. There are frequent questions on TOTV about what's happening with this or that project, most often with no official answer.

I guess I just don't see the upside in them keeping certain news and plans so secretive. Even Don apparently had a bit of fuss with them about his construction flyover videos.

JoMar 07-29-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 1810502)
I have no strong feelings about the Morses one way or the other, but sometimes do idly wonder about their seeming reluctance to share information. There are frequent questions on TOTV about what's happening with this or that project, most often with no official answer.

I guess I just don't see the upside in them keeping certain news and plans so secretive. Even Don apparently had a bit of fuss with them about his construction flyover videos.

And I don't see the upside in them sharing their plans, except to satisfy curiosity. I wonder how many business owners here would have shared their strategies and plans because someone was curious.

Best family 07-30-2020 06:20 AM

Go to the building department and that should be public knowledge

Neils 07-30-2020 06:28 AM

Could be nothing is planned for the site until there is a money making idea.

jbrown132 07-30-2020 07:13 AM

This is what concerns me. As pools age in The Villages. Is this going to happen to all of them. Remember these pools were paid for from the bonds people paid. Once the bonds have been paid off were does the money come from to replace them. It seems that the only thing to replace them with is with something that generates revenue. Hope I’m wrong.

Bogie Shooter 07-30-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrown132 (Post 1810627)
This is what concerns me. As pools age in The Villages. Is this going to happen to all of them. Remember these pools were paid for from the bonds people paid. Once the bonds have been paid off were does the money come from to replace them. It seems that the only thing to replace them with is with something that generates revenue. Hope I’m wrong.

It wasn't the pool that failed, it was the restaurant.
I don't know, because I don't worry about such things, my guess that the budgets include monies set aside to repair/replace a pool or other assets that require attention.
We have been told many times on this site that one can attend budget preparation meetings to see actually what is in the budgets. Eliminates speculation......

anita1955 07-30-2020 07:28 AM

It saddens my heart to see this being torn down. I spent 9 years as a pool ambassador at that pool up to 2 weeks ago when the fence was erected. Hoping they will build something just as beautiful as what they have demolished

Marathon Man 07-30-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrown132 (Post 1810627)
This is what concerns me. As pools age in The Villages. Is this going to happen to all of them. Remember these pools were paid for from the bonds people paid. Once the bonds have been paid off were does the money come from to replace them. It seems that the only thing to replace them with is with something that generates revenue. Hope I’m wrong.

The country clubs along with their pools, etc are privately owned businesses. That it why the owner can take them out. They were not paid for by us. The pools at the rec centers are a different story.

billethkid 07-30-2020 09:17 AM

Better than being sold to the residents!

justjim 07-30-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1810526)
And I don't see the upside in them sharing their plans, except to satisfy curiosity. I wonder how many business owners here would have shared their strategies and plans because someone was curious.

We will know the plans for this property in due time after the plans are finalized and permits for construction are obtained. :popcorn:

meboyle 07-30-2020 10:41 AM

Plans should be filed with the town, permits etc. should be there. Go to town hall and ask. It’s public information.

Marathon Man 07-30-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Community Cop (Post 1810423)
This is another Katie-Belle's disaster. Seems the developers only concerns lie south of Route 44.

And there are those south of 44 who claim that "The Developer" does not care about them because there is no shopping and no bridges.

So easy to criticize.

JoMar 07-30-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1810714)
We will know the plans for this property in due time after the plans are finalized and permits for construction are obtained. :popcorn:

I agree which is why I will join you :popcorn: Why people think they have a right to know what the Developer is planning escapes me.

Dilligas 07-30-2020 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 1810502)
I have no strong feelings about the Morses one way or the other, but sometimes do idly wonder about their seeming reluctance to share information. There are frequent questions on TOTV about what's happening with this or that project, most often with no official answer.

I guess I just don't see the upside in them keeping certain news and plans so secretive. Even Don apparently had a bit of fuss with them about his construction flyover videos.

Even when they do relate any future plans, and something happens to stall those plans for a few months, the residents complain.....whine....."they promised us...." . Current plans for bridges and cart path connecting South across SR44 and Turnpike are the classic example. The residents will be informed when the developer is ready to inform.....not before.....too many things can go wrong. He is a business man running a business, not a club.

graciegirl 07-30-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1810795)
I am critical of posters bashing south of 44, hoping someday it will stop. Then you come along and start bashing the north. I just don't get it.

Me either. I will never, ever, EVER, understand why some people enjoy the negative, look for trouble and slyly enjoy getting over on others. Most people have a sixth sense that warns them of trouble or go to people to run things by. That is how I look at this Forum; a go to place to run things by. I think everyone should be a dependable person who tells the truth and yet I have a sixth sense that tells me that some just want to upset others.

Oh Bogie. I hope that was within the framework of what we are allowed to say.

Gpsma 07-30-2020 02:14 PM

Maybe people should stop thrashing valid opinions.

The future of TV is South of 44. Admit it.

Bigger homes, more amenities.

Northern parts of TV will be like Orange Blossom one day....old houses ready for the wrecking ball.

CWGUY 07-30-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1810800)
Me either. I will never, ever, EVER, understand why some people enjoy the negative, look for trouble and slyly enjoy getting over on others. Most people have a sixth sense that warns them of trouble or go to people to run things by. That is how I look at this Forum; a go to place to run things by. I think everyone should be a dependable person who tells the truth and yet I have a sixth sense that tells me that some just want to upset others.

Oh Bogie. I hope that was within the framework of what we are allowed to say.

I think what you guys said is ok ........ well maybe that "TRUTH" part may not be allowed. :icon_wink:

Jack58033 07-30-2020 03:31 PM

Hacienda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1810044)
A 10 story apartment complex!

Why only ten? Remember the buildout.

Marathon Man 07-30-2020 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1810807)
Maybe people should stop thrashing valid opinions.

The future of TV is South of 44. Admit it.

Bigger homes, more amenities.

Northern parts of TV will be like Orange Blossom one day....old houses ready for the wrecking ball.

Not even close to being true. So, no. I will NOT admit it.

BTW: Opinions are neither valid nor invalid. They are just opinions. Everyone can have one, but they have no basis to claim opinion as fact.

MaxCat 08-03-2020 04:39 PM

Good Riddance
 
Am personally glad to see if finally being torn down so something new, different, better can replace it. The building was probably mold infested (you could smell it when you were checking in for golf in the pro shop) and the restaurant had had numerous health violations and had been shut down at least once because of it. Yes, in its hey day it was beautiful and a place of good times. But through the years it had become tired and in dire need of more than a face-lift. It has been stated that a new pro-shop will be part of the rebuild (which you have to believe because the developer is on record as keeping the golf course and would need a pro-shop to run the course) and there will likely be other amenities associated with a new facility. Hopefully, if successful, this can be a model for what will happen to other existing facilities when they age and outlive their original luster -- that they will be addressed and replaced as appropriate. Onward!


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