Originally Posted by Tennisbum (Post 1810865)

break it out by county and see what and where the problems are.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1810924)

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

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Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November

Originally Posted by mamamia54 (Post 1810872)

I don’t understand why anyone would not take it seriously. People are dying, it’s not a joke.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1810947)

Chartology 101

Media scare chart: Media loves these day of reporting charts, makes things look really bad, even though the headlines screams "deadliest day ever" all the deaths did not happen that day, most were earlier dates

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Charts scientists and epidemiologists use are based on date of actual death. See the difference?

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Same chart without the colors (from Florida Dashboard)

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CDC also uses more scientific date of death charts. Anyone who try's to tell you the media charts are scientific is clueless. When the media says Florida is the next New York they are clueless too.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1810965)

Lies, damned lies, and statistics!!

Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1810955)

The last two charts have the warnings. “ Death data often has significant delays in reporting, so data within the past two weeks will be updated frequently.‘’

In other words. Those charts with the death numbers going down, count back 14 days and know those numbers will likely go up. The highest number of deaths is 13 days ago, and that number could get bigger.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1810924)

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

Attachment 85539

Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1811006)

So, some believe that if you wish to believe REAL stats, then you are a denier and do not believe this virus is real, but a hoax. If you do not do as they feel you should do, then you are putting others at risk and don't take responsibility for others. So, correct me if I am wrong in my understanding, but you all believe that it is my responsibility to keep you safe, even if you wish to be about your business like you are the only person allowed to posture about in public. If some such as me feel that the masks do some prevention, but are hardly adequate, then you feel that I am being a denier and not taking this seriously? News Flash, I HAVE lost a close relative to the virus and I do realize that it is dangerous. BUT, I am not going to allow some panic driven, hysterical, "sky is falling" know it alls to dictate what is a valid fact, just because it fits their political agenda. I'll take you seriously when I see you wearing a total bio-hazard suit when you are out shopping. Do not think you can shame me into wearing what you deem is acceptable and do not presume to think that you have the ONLY valid facts. Here's something else to think about; did you really think that anyone else thinks your medical safety is more important than their own? If one does not care about their own safety as much as you feel about yours, why should they be concerned about what you deem acceptable preventative attire?
The reason there is so much discussion about the validity of circulated stats provided by the media, is because they are often more wrong than right. Take for instance the local on line news rag that uses the Villages as a target for EVERY negative item of news real or made up in order to demean Villagers and the community EVERY day. Their headline will imply that there is a great wave of deaths in the Villages when their article actually gives stats for areas outside of the Villages. So, to defend them we have folks with a political agenda that say, "but we care about everyone, not just our own community." BS! Sorry, I meant to say that I call "BS" on your agenda.
No one is making light of this virus. We simply do not wish to see hysterical Betties running amok and scaring folks with "the sky is falling. It's the end of the world" when better minds are thinking logically and using common sense. If it makes you feel vindicated, then yes, you are correct in one point. I don't care as much about you as I do about myself or my family. Your safety is not my priority. Feel better now? Yes, I take this virus seriously, but I am not going to allow politics determine how I handle this. I am going to take this as just another little glitch or crisis to be added to others that we have had throughout history. We have had wars that have killed more people and we have also had other medical emergencies that have killed off more of the population. And we will likely have more of them in the future. If you can't handle this one without hysterics, then go bury your head in the sand or hide in your safe room until it is past.
If you are trying to prove that some don't care, try to understand that we do care.....just not about you right now.

Thanks to those on here that produce valid facts to back up their statements. Not that an opinion blog requires facts, but thank you for proving your fact based opinions. Too bad that some do not find your stats exaggerated enough to be worthy of their panic.

And to those that feel that Mr. Cain was negligent by not wearing his mask once, and that caused his death by virus, I have news for you. I know of one person that did ALL the right things and is still dead by virus. Your little placebo(mask) may or may not save you, but don't think that wearing a rain coat in a storm is going to keep you dry. It might keep you partially dry but you will still get wet.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1810927)

Sad but this is what has become of journalism these days

Originally Posted by billyb1950 (Post 1810992)

Look folks, let's call this what it is: The Chinese Virus, the Wuhan Virus, the CCP virus. It is not the Trump virus as it has been referred to by others. The virus, as they say about millions of other products, was "Made in China".

Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 1810977)

Herman Cain didn't take Covid 19 seriously. He wouldn't wear a mask and attended a large convention with many people in an indoor arena. He is dead now. When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee. Wear a mask, maintain social distancing, avoid large crowded indoor areas, and wash your hands often with soap and water. I have been saying this since February and have had a lot of negative criticism in March, April, May and June. Finally I am seeing people starting to listen.

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1811138)

Had stage four colon cancer and apparently died of related pneumonia.

Originally Posted by George Page (Post 1810981)

Irrespective of the statistics, Houston, we have a problem. And many Villagers should be ashamed of their behavior and their refusal to wear masks to protect the most vulnerable among us. Sadly, socially irresponsible actions are the norm for some here.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1810912)

Hope people start taking this more seriously and the vaccine comes before the end of this year

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1810924)

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

Attachment 85539

Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November

Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1810928)

With a respectful note of disagreement, I believe most people know exactly why it isn't taken seriously. As some high profile cases, and sadly deaths, plus drastically upwardly revised projections for this year have shown in the last few days though, it's definitely not a joke. Nor do I think it's a joke, that a lot of people want our young children, their teachers, bus drivers, school security, etc., to be used as test subjects for the goal of reaching a mythical 'herd immunity' for a nation of this size, without a sound national plan and defined procedures on how to achieve "getting back to normal."

Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1810974)

The propaganda lies by the mercenary media continues to keep everyone in panic mode. Their purpose is to destroy our beautiful country and our enemies are gleefully watching and waiting.

Don't believe everything you hear. Even salt looks like sugar.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.". Edward R. Murrow

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1810978)

Maybe you weren't supposed to read those warnings or try to interpret their meaning; that could disrupt the 'desperate deniers' dialog.

Followed by an imaginary dialog between news-persons??? :ohdear: Maybe this one is just as valid:

Non-MSM influencer: How can I get people to believe that this virus response has been part of a conspiracy??

Some Doctor/Scientist: Here are beautiful, colorful charts that can be used for any argument you like. Sweden looks pretty good, wouldn't you say?

Influencer: Love the charts, but some evidence shows that Sweden wasn't particularly successful in stopping Covid-19 deaths compared to other nations.

Dr./Scientist: Then stop comparing them to only those nations! There must be US states that had worse results. Throw them into the conversation as a diversion.

Influencer: Some say that there are too many differences between Swedish & US people, such as their cultures, overall health, etc. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

Dr./Scientist:

Influencer: Point taken. More charts & graphs please!

Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1810978)

Maybe you weren't supposed to read those warnings or try to interpret their meaning; that could disrupt the 'desperate deniers' dialog.

Followed by an imaginary dialog between news-persons??? :ohdear: Maybe this one is just as valid:

Non-MSM influencer: How can I get people to believe that this virus response has been part of a conspiracy??

Some Doctor/Scientist: Here are beautiful, colorful charts that can be used for any argument you like. Sweden looks pretty good, wouldn't you say?

Influencer: Love the charts, but some evidence shows that Sweden wasn't particularly successful in stopping Covid-19 deaths compared to other nations.

Dr./Scientist: Then stop comparing them to only those nations! There must be US states that had worse results. Throw them into the conversation as a diversion.

Influencer: Some say that there are too many differences between Swedish & US people, such as their cultures, overall health, etc. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

Dr./Scientist:

Influencer: Point taken. More charts & graphs please!