What is south of Fenney and DeSoto?
 

When I look on the Villages map, the large area beneath Fenney and DeSoto is in white. There is no indication about who owns it or what is on it. Does the developer own this land and is there anything planned for it?

Immediately south of Fenney is all private property for the first 1/4 mile after that it belongs to the American Cement Company LLC. South of DeSoto & McClure is property is predominantly owned by the federal government as a part of the bureau of prisons - it is part of the Coleman Federal Prison complex and is mainly dense woodlands.

There is no plans by the developer to develop these properties. Two miles south of DeSoto & McClure - south of CR470 the developer owns most of the property for the next 6 miles going south, this will ultimately be developed over the next 20-30 years.

There are two twenty acre parcels for sale across from Monarch Grove on 501 abutting McLure to the south and they are not embarrassed to include the price on their sign, 20 acres for $6,000,000.00 and I would assume it will be sold in the near future as it's really close to the new recreation area and zoned commercial/residential.

Anyone want to go partners and buy it and than sell it to the family?:bigbow:

If the family wanted it they would already have it..

I don't think they checked with the TOTV'S Posters yet! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I like the video that they put out. Modest. They tried to illustrate that things are in a state of flux at all times and that plans could and probably will change. People probably heard what they said differently than what I just typed. They addressed a whole lot of concerns and if you were not in the construction business then it's hard to grasp the number of reasons behind a delay. They want to perform and IMHO they certainly do.

this fellow speaks with knowledge...listen to him

20 - 30 years....but they promised :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yeah, I’ll scratch out a check from my retirement fund as a State Trooper! 🙄🙄

Directly south of De Soto is Coleman Federal Prison In a concrete crushing plant. I feel safe we are separated by a thick tree line

South of Fenny
 

Go to YouTube and search “Gold Wingnut” You will learn plenty

I don't think trees are a good protection feature. Perfect for hiding out and not be found in my book.

I assume you are implying a jailbreak, right? I don't know do you.....how many have happened in the life of the prison? Hyperbole!

The "family" will never pay that amount.

Can we make them an offer they cannot refuse?

On to Disneyworld?
 

So, the real question is how long before we can drive our golf carts to Disney?

Who owns what is public information. :read:
Sumter County Property Appraiser - Joey Hooten - Bushnell, Florida - 352-569-6800

Oh please, stop with the relevant questions! People break out of maximum-security prisons all the time; don't you watch the movies? You don't think that Hollywood would deceive us into thinking something that's not true.

It's happened
 

Been living in Florida for 20+ years and in The Villages for 12+ years. I can recall a couple of break outs from the prison with helicopters searching and notices on the news and along well traveled roads recommending people in the surrounding area taking caution and/or staying in their homes until the fugitives were caught.
So . . . it has happened.

They have to figure out how to tunnel under highway 50 first.

Why wouldnt a bridge work?

Well, let's see. First get out of the cell block, then get out of the building, then get to an area where you can scale the razor wire with guard tower marksmen looking down at you, then pick up your bleeding carcass (from the razor wire) and try to make a run for the woods and swamp hoping a stray gator doesn't get you. Yeah, I think we're pretty safe.

I think it is a safe bet to assume the future will bring lots and lots of new houses and not nearly enough new Championship golfing holes.

That’s what you worry about in 20 years.:popcorn:

Onto Miami . forward march.

With the new medical stuff they are bringing here we will all live to well over 100 years.

As a result new things to worry about.

i've been told so many things on what to look out for living near a prison. i suppose it never bothered us, because i'm not 1 of those nimby neighbors. im not @ all concerned-if 1 of these guys break out, the last thing i'd think they'd head for is brownwood square watching the hooligans, :icon_wink:
i learned this prison is for snitch-types who need protection, & certain genders that may antagonize other inmates just by being there. yes, there's a few hardened types, that are kept under strict conditions. it's not a deal breaker, we still bought the villa

I've been living in Fenney for over 3 years and the only time I know of the prison being down here is when I read about it here. It's a heck of a lot better than being near a sewage treatment plant.

:coolsmiley:

As someone who has been coming to The Villages since 2001 and owned a home since 2011, I have seen The Villages keep expanding to the south. So based on that experience, when I look at Google maps the answer to your question as to what is south of Fenny and Desoto, the eventual answer is the village of Fort Meyers, the village of Naples, and the village of Marco Island. It is just a matter of time. And some day it might even be the village of Havana as soon as the Morse family decides whether to build a golf cart bridge or a tunnel from Key West to Cuba.

I think you might be mistaken..
 

I think the prison is actually Maximum Security....... they keep the killers and really heavy duty bad guys in there.....

Don’t plan on selling it to the Developer to make a profit. If you assumed a density of 10 houses per acre, houses built on that property would have an imbedded property cost of $30,000 per house. That’s unimproved property. The Developer never pays that much for the land component of their development. The only way land priced that high might be attractive to the Developer is for the development with significantly higher density, like the mult-storied condos or rental apartments, like those built near the Brownwood town square.

I did a bit of searching and couldn't find any mention of an escape from Coleman. I've found that escapes from federal prisons are pretty rare but escapes from county jails happens frequently. Usually a trustee that takes off from an outside work detail. I don't have a problem with the prison and have no worries of a prison break. You have a better chance of a home invasion than an escaped prisoner from the prison trying to get into your home.

In that case will tell him he can make up the loss with volume.:icon_wink:

Prison
 

. Nobody has ever escaped from Stalag 13!!!

And The Villages will stop building at 466a. Fool me once.

Non one is going to want to drive a cart all the way to Disney. I'm thinking that they'll extend the monorail to Brownwood.

Coming soon - a new thread to complain: "I don't want the monorail to Disney behind MY house!"