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Doro22 08-06-2020 02:58 PM

Pergolas or shade options on patio?
 
I am looking for information from anyone who has had a pergola installed on their patio. Who do you recommend? Or perhaps other shade options...any ideas? I guess one needs to get ARC approval.

EdFNJ 08-06-2020 03:12 PM

Large offset cantilever umbrella (not a round umbrella).

Doro22 08-06-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1813612)
Large offset cantilever umbrella (not a round umbrella).

I was interested in that option also. I will check that out. Any pros & cons?

EdFNJ 08-06-2020 04:16 PM

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I was interested in that option also. I will check that out. Any pros & cons?

I have an 11 footer which covers just about my entire patio mainly for my grill. It survived hurricane IRMA without problem closed of course :) . I did get a heavy (250+ lbs) base (you fill it with 6+ bags of play sand).

The only downside I have found is we have a little BAT that makes his home in it when it's closed so when I open it he ends up on TOP and isn't happy in the sun and flies off :D It was a lot cheaper than any of the other options.

Edit: It can be turned and angled so it blocks the sun and the rain when it blows in where a pergola likely couldn't have. The whole thing was around $350 including base, sand & umbrella. Not as pretty as a pergola but quite effective.

This is the one we got: Amazon Umbrella

And the base: 260# base

If anyone gets this make sure you get absolutely dry sand from INSIDE a store (Home Depot stores it inside) and fill it using a funnel or you will go NUTS.. DO NOT use water.

Doro22 08-06-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1813637)
I have an 11 footer which covers just about my entire patio mainly for my grill. It survived hurricane IRMA without problem closed of course :) . I did get a heavy (250+ lbs) base (you fill it with 6+ bags of play sand).

The only downside I have found is we have a little BAT that makes his home in it when it's closed so when I open it he ends up on TOP and isn't happy in the sun and flies off :D It was a lot cheaper than any of the other options.

Edit: It can be turned and angled so it blocks the sun and the rain when it blows in where a pergola likely couldn't have. The whole thing was around $350 including base, sand & umbrella. Not as pretty as a pergola but quite effective.

This is the one we got: Amazon Umbrella

And the base: 260# base

If anyone gets this make sure you get absolutely dry sand from INSIDE a store (Home Depot stores it inside) and fill it using a funnel or you will go NUTS.. DO NOT use water.

Aha! The bats. We’ve gotten bats in our small round umbrellas when they are down. Also a neighbor across street got several bats in their offset umbrella. Wonder why they like the umbrella.

davem4616 08-06-2020 06:31 PM

we had them up north...great shade and high winds never bothered them

down here if I were to put one in I would do what TV does at the pools...give that a look see

queasy27 08-06-2020 06:52 PM

A more expensive, permanent option would be a retractable awning, manual or automatic. Limited protection when the sun is coming in at an angle, but I imagine not much different than a pergola in that regard. Side curtains, drop panels and screens are available options.

Liz1511 08-07-2020 05:23 AM

Pergola
 
Built 2 years ago by D&D Village Construction............love it, have had no issues and would recommend it and the company.

caseycasebeer 08-07-2020 05:47 AM

Another option might be to check out architectural panels made by Parasoleil.com (Denver, CO). Their panels come in several different colors and dozens of patterns. The pattern allow sunlight to come through, and create a
shadow pattern on the patio. Very creative. Parasoleil panels of often used as “architectural cladding” on the side of buildings for design and creative appearances.

MrGolf 08-07-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Doro22 (Post 1813606)
I am looking for information from anyone who has had a pergola installed on their patio. Who do you recommend? Or perhaps other shade options...any ideas? I guess one needs to get ARC approval.

We had one built two weeks ago and are thrilled with the outcome. We used Bruce Forrester. 248--310-0178. He did a great job we are happy to recommend him. He builds only with cedar. He stained ours white to match our trim. His prices were very reasonable.

La lamy 08-07-2020 06:43 AM

I don't get the appeal of a pergola. It doesn't fully protect you from sun, it certainly doesn't protect you from rain. It's an expensive holey roof. Maybe people like stripes tanning?! I love our cantilever umbrella.

Nell57 08-07-2020 07:11 AM

I also was considering a pergola so I talked to several neighbors. Two mentioned how the frogs loved them, and frog poop was an ongoing cleanup. For me...no pergola.

WinnieHa 08-07-2020 08:01 AM

Pergolas do not provide shade or protection from rain. We have one on the patio, 12 x 14 , and it is cute. I have put a very small umbrella under it and the combination if better than just the pergola. It is cosmetically appealing (to me) but, if you are looking to maximize sun and rain protection, it is not a solution. But it does offer some charm and overall I’m glad we have it.

Jazzman 08-07-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Doro22 (Post 1813606)
I am looking for information from anyone who has had a pergola installed on their patio. Who do you recommend? Or perhaps other shade options...any ideas? I guess one needs to get ARC approval.

We went through this process earlier this year. A lot has to do with the placement of the pergola in relation to the position of the sun and where you want shade as a pergola with slot top spaced three inches apart does not provide total shade, a must in my opinion during late spring and summer. We opted to purchase a large (11foot Span /diameter) umbrella which provides the shade required and can be rotated/angled to block sun as it moves throughout the day. We purchased a very good cantilever umbrella for $1,200 versus spending $7,000 for the pergola we wanted. We’re glad we purchased the umbrella.

peggyb 08-07-2020 08:15 AM

Another option is a Santa Fe Pergola that Magellan installs. It looks like a lanai from the inside but a pergola outside. It is a pergola with a ceiling and screen

sdos0106 08-07-2020 08:43 AM

My husband and opted for sail shades which may be purchased on Amazon. The sails come in variety of sizes and colors. They are easy to install and give us the shade we need.

schultzcj100@gmail.com 08-07-2020 08:45 AM

Pergola
 
If you live in The Villages, I don’t think pergolas are allowed..... better check about installing one.

Red White & Blue 08-07-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by schultzcj100@gmail.com (Post 1813950)
If you live in The Villages, I don’t think pergolas are allowed..... better check about installing one.

I've seen many of them here in the Villages back yards near golf courses... :confused:

Kahuna32162 08-07-2020 09:40 AM

If you're looking to create shade inside a birdcage, you do not need ARC approval. That being said we have installed a gazebo and a motorized retractable awning.

Fischer 08-07-2020 02:40 PM

Go on line to sam’s club. They have a metal roof. Comes in different sizes.
Call us if you would like to see it. We are in Linden Isles. South of 44.
Phone 865-384-6854

Topspinmo 08-07-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Doro22 (Post 1813682)
Aha! The bats. We’ve gotten bats in our small round umbrellas when they are down. Also a neighbor across street got several bats in their offset umbrella. Wonder why they like the umbrella.

Easy to hold onto, the like CYV concrete wall corners also.

Topspinmo 08-07-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by schultzcj100@gmail.com (Post 1813950)
If you live in The Villages, I don’t think pergolas are allowed..... better check about installing one.

They are allowed but in certain villa’s require ARC approval. In my district and in CYV you have to get approval. In CYV nothing can touch you’re neighbors house, if so you could be responsible for damage to there house. Plus it can’t be so close that the wind knocks it into house.

Jerseybob 08-07-2020 03:45 PM

The only downside I have found is we have a little BAT that makes his home in it when it's closed so when I open it he ends up on TOP and isn't happy in the sun and flies off :D It was a lot cheaper than any of the other options.

At least he is small and is rather cute. Well, that is as bat's go.:icon_wink:
Great bug eater as well.

pms051102 08-08-2020 05:36 AM

I checked out their website. Very cool. Do you have this at your home?

transplanted 08-08-2020 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by schultzcj100@gmail.com (Post 1813950)
If you live in The Villages, I don’t think pergolas are allowed..... better check about installing one.

Lots of Pergolas in The Villages - and not just near the golf courses, nor just in Villas.

giorgio1948 08-08-2020 07:04 AM

Sounds like the "cantilever's" win ~

Marvivo 08-08-2020 07:15 AM

Retractable awning
 
We have a retractable awning and I cannot think of a better shade solutions. Of course, it is costly.

Momlikes2drive 09-26-2020 03:26 PM

Where did you get the cantilever umbrella and base? I've been looking for a decent one on Wayfair, but haven't bought one yet. I saw one at the local store, Leisure Living, but they were $2800!

graciegirl 09-26-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1813612)
Large offset cantilever umbrella (not a round umbrella).

Do you have to be on your toes to put that down, if it begins to be real breezy? We too are considering that or an awning.

MN2FL 10-30-2020 01:28 PM

We have one from Pergola Kings. Appreciate the shade it offers in the afternoon, but disappointed that we have to clean mildew off 1/yr.

John41 10-30-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doro22 (Post 1813606)
I am looking for information from anyone who has had a pergola installed on their patio. Who do you recommend? Or perhaps other shade options...any ideas? I guess one needs to get ARC approval.

Sunsetter awning

Topspinmo 10-30-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by schultzcj100@gmail.com (Post 1813950)
If you live in The Villages, I don’t think pergolas are allowed..... better check about installing one.


Allowed in most districts ( not sure if allowed in all, but. in majority) but limitations due to easements and of course approval of plans. Do NOT put one up without approval. Umbrellas require no approval.

Pinhead 10-31-2020 10:30 AM

I had a 4 ft. x 30 ft. Pergola extension put on my Lanai by windows of central Florida. I think mine is the 50% reduction of sun light. I love it.

petsetc 10-31-2020 01:22 PM

Consider a Gazebo from Big Lots,they'll have a bunch in the spring and buy an extra canopy right away, the sun is brutal on them. In Virginia we have a 10x12, leave the frame up year round and take the top off in the winter. We're on our 4th replacement canopy, frame remains solid. They include screen sides and curtains which we use to reduce sun.

Kilmacowen 10-31-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MN2FL (Post 1854520)
We have one from Pergola Kings. Appreciate the shade it offers in the afternoon, but disappointed that we have to clean mildew off 1/yr.

Spray it with " wet and forget".

sam&rog 11-01-2020 11:24 AM

Allowed with ARC approval


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