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G.R.I.T.S. 08-08-2020 09:53 AM

Dear Karen at the grocery store:
 
I hope you are OK. You told me to "move back" while I patiently waited beside my cart at the beginning of the conveyor belt for you to finish your transaction at the cashier so I could place my items on the belt. Some people are very stressed during this time, which is why I did not engage with you. Peace.

JoMar 08-08-2020 10:18 AM

If we all had your attitude it would be a nicer experience.

Villageswimmer 08-08-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cdhw@ (Post 1814484)
I hope you are OK. You told me to "move back" while I patiently waited beside my cart at the beginning of the conveyor belt for you to finish your transaction at the cashier so I could place my items on the belt. Some people are very stressed during this time, which is why I did not engage with you. Peace.


In your thread title, you referred to your fellow customer as a “Karen.” This kind of name calling is sexist and racist. Further, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone to back off.

Rather than being so proud of yourself that you did not “engage,” you might ask yourself why you needed to use a derogatory term.

How difficult was it to back up?

Stu from NYC 08-08-2020 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1814518)
In your thread title, you referred to your fellow customer as a “Karen.” This kind of name calling is sexist and racist. Further, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone to back off.

Rather than being so proud of yourself that you did not “engage,” you might ask yourself why you needed to use a derogatory term.

How difficult was it to back up?

Why is calling her Karen derogatory and racist?

Velvet 08-08-2020 11:08 AM

Recent definition of stereotype Karen from google: “ ENTITLED, middle-aged, WHITE WOMAN”. So it is meant to be derogatory, racist and sexist.
Wiki uses the term “pejorative” to describe it.

Dana1963 08-08-2020 11:08 AM

Karen is just a general term female were as Ken is for the male gender

Villageswimmer 08-08-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1814525)
Karen is just a general term female were as Ken is for the male gender


Google is your friend.

Velvet 08-08-2020 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1814525)
Karen is just a general term female were as Ken is for the male gender

Not unless Ken is also a pejorative term.

Topspinmo 08-08-2020 11:24 AM

times now is driving some people over the edge when they were already tittering mentally before?

Carla B 08-08-2020 11:31 AM

Stand back, don't approach or put items on conveyor belt until the person ahead pays and leaves, I was told at the little WMT.

kathyspear 08-08-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1814525)
Karen is just a general term female were as Ken is for the male gender

No, it is not. It is only used to insult middle-aged white women.

kathy

Taltarzac725 08-08-2020 11:46 AM

Maybe she had a "Karen" name tag on when she was shopping? Or someone called her "Karen" while in line.

I notice a lot of Villages' area workers who have name tags on when doing their shopping. Especially nurses around the Publixes on US 441/27.

Stu from NYC 08-08-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1814565)
No, it is not. It is only used to insult middle-aged white women.

kathy

New one on me, never heard of calling someone Karen is a put down.

graciegirl 08-08-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1814518)
In your thread title, you referred to your fellow customer as a “Karen.” This kind of name calling is sexist and racist. Further, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone to back off.

Rather than being so proud of yourself that you did not “engage,” you might ask yourself why you needed to use a derogatory term.

How difficult was it to back up?

OH FOR PETE's SAKE.

WHO decided Karen was a derogatory term rather than one that people use playfully to describe an ordinary woman??? I personally know and call friend six people named Karen. It is a name with a lot of use for sure.

I am SERIOUS. Where did you read that the name Karen was derogatory rather than just a way to enjoy what cat's say to their owners in memes??? WHO decided it was a bad word??? I missed that important opinion piece.

P.S. Love to all my Karens who for some reason all are nurses. I don't know why. Some are in their forties and most are in their sixties or early seventies.

Velvet 08-08-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1814569)
New one on me, never heard of calling someone Karen is a put down.

It is a recent term, perhaps brought out by fear of being middle-aged and vulnerable to Covid, not that I am excusing them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-08-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1814569)
New one on me, never heard of calling someone Karen is a put down.

It's something you learn when you live anywhere OTHER than the bubble :)

Here's a great *totally acted* version of a Karen. It's an ASMR version so you might have to turn your volume up a bit to hear her.

Karen Wants to Speak With the Manager! (ASMR) - YouTube

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-08-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1814577)
It is a recent term, perhaps brought out by fear of being middle-aged and vulnerable to Covid, not that I am excusing them.

It dates back before COVID-19, but it is still relatively recent (within the last couple of years).

graciegirl 08-08-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1814577)
It is a recent term, perhaps brought out by fear of being middle-aged and vulnerable to Covid, not that I am excusing them.

Who manufactured it???

I bet some young woman who sits knees to knees in a small office in Manhattan and may be in charge of writing opinion for some newspaper or some major news media.

https://img.memecdn.com/kareeeeeeen_c_7259674.jpg

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-08-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1814581)
Who manufactured it???

I bet some young woman who sits knees to knees in a small office in Manhattan and may be in charge of writing opinion for some newspaper or some major news media.

https://img.memecdn.com/kareeeeeeen_c_7259674.jpg

You would be incorrect.

Its most likely origin is reddit. That's where most memes originate.

Bjeanj 08-08-2020 12:06 PM

You know, I hate it when I get really annoyed about something, but when I relay my story to anyone else, they don’t think it’s worth being annoyed about. My patience with everyone and everything has been lacking in the past few days.

So, I’m going to try and be supportive with cdhw@ and say “you did good at holding your tongue, and the person in front of you was wrong!”

Two Bills 08-08-2020 12:11 PM

This new society.
So thin skinned.
Always looking for an insult, and waiting to be offended.
This 'woke' generations would never have survived growing up when 'I were a lad!'
Spineless!!

DonH57 08-08-2020 12:11 PM

I've known many nice women named Karen as well as many nice Ken's. The name given describes the entitled ones who believe they are chosen ones to dictate how others should live and possess a self assigned duty to do so. The term for these people are just another new buzz word. They do exist inside the bubble as well.

graciegirl 08-08-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1814582)
You would be incorrect.

Its most likely origin is reddit. That's where most memes originate.

I challenge that we need to swallow anything whole because a small group decides to either embrace it or dismiss it.

Or in other words. Bull****.

And I am angry that someone would write that people who live in "The Bubble" are insular and unread.

It makes me want to bite when I see a new word or attitude shoved at us like someone just got some new news from the "Mount".

Villageswimmer 08-08-2020 12:35 PM

I am especially sensitive to name calling of any kind. That’s how I raised. That’s how we raised our family.

Think what a better world this would be if there was no name calling. It is NEVER kind. It is always meant to hurt. It is not cool.

Namaste.

ldj1938 08-08-2020 12:39 PM

SNARL! Give it a rest!

BossLady 08-08-2020 12:57 PM

How about giving everyone an extra distance, farther than you might think is necessary?? A lot of people seem unable to ascertain what six feet or more actually is.

I will (and have) definitely ask anyone to step back and give me some room if I want to. I don’t care what you think or call me. I respect others space. Your whole “Karen” thing, that’s your problem. It’s a big planet, you do not have to be on top of me in a line. Wait patiently another few feet away. Is that so hard? Sounds to me like you have the problem Of a lack of undersatnading other peoples space. You were too close. Perhaps you should be more aware??

BossLady 08-08-2020 01:03 PM

AND calling someone out as “Karen” is a veiled swipe because you are so “patient” as not to engage her but to feel sorry and hope she is ok? Nice try... look inward.

Taltarzac725 08-08-2020 01:06 PM

Karen (pejorative - Wikipedia)

I guess I am not as up on the lingo as I thought I was.

Aloha1 08-08-2020 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1814580)
It dates back before COVID-19, but it is still relatively recent (within the last couple of years).

Just another "gift" from the Millennial generation. You know, the ones who were never taught history, think Marxism is OK, etc.

npwalters 08-08-2020 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1814586)
This new society.
So thin skinned.
Always looking for an insult, and waiting to be offended.
This 'woke' generations would never have survived growing up when 'I were a lad!'
Spineless!!

amen

Vikingjunior 08-08-2020 01:52 PM

Wait until Karen barks at the wrong person and someone bitch slaps her.

DonH57 08-08-2020 02:08 PM

Definately. People are so sensitive today giving the fact the media certainly is helping matters. Turn off the news and enjoy life.

New Englander 08-08-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1814569)
New one on me, never heard of calling someone Karen is a put down.

Same here. I just think of Karen as a female name. Just like Mary, Joan, Barbara etc.

jane032657 08-08-2020 02:31 PM

How ‘Karen’ Became the Name for Entitled & Racist White Women | Heavy.com

Stu from NYC 08-08-2020 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1814637)
Same here. I just think of Karen as a female name. Just like Mary, Joan, Barbara etc.

Karen is a name and people deciding Karen is a racist person is just nonsense and that is my final word on the subject

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-08-2020 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1814588)
I challenge that we need to swallow anything whole because a small group decides to either embrace it or dismiss it.

Or in other words. Bull****.

And I am angry that someone would write that people who live in "The Bubble" are insular and unread.

It makes me want to bite when I see a new word or attitude shoved at us like someone just got some new news from the "Mount".

Ok, Boomer :)

Number 10 GI 08-08-2020 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossLady (Post 1814609)
How about giving everyone an extra distance, farther than you might think is necessary?? A lot of people seem unable to ascertain what six feet or more actually is.

I will (and have) definitely ask anyone to step back and give me some room if I want to. I don’t care what you think or call me. I respect others space. Your whole “Karen” thing, that’s your problem. It’s a big planet, you do not have to be on top of me in a line. Wait patiently another few feet away. Is that so hard? Sounds to me like you have the problem Of a lack of undersatnading other peoples space. You were too close. Perhaps you should be more aware??

You weren't there to witness what happened, so how do you know how far apart they were.

retiredguy123 08-08-2020 03:15 PM

FYI

Karenitis

A disease that causes middle aged entitled women to behave like animals when they don’t get their way. If met with resistance from people, the Karenitis will start to develop. Symptoms include dramatic outburst, arguing with strangers about random things that don’t concern them, and asking to speak to ones manager. May also include threats of suing or calling the police. A lifelong virus that can only be cured by public exposure and losing her job.

‘’That crazy older woman has the Karenitis! That is why she blows up in public over things that are none of her business"

CanTho 08-08-2020 03:35 PM

This thread is a complete waste of time and energy. This Covid -19 is really doing a number on many people.... Look step back re-group and try to get back to normal.

This situation will soon pass. Use your head. C'mon

Fredman 08-08-2020 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1814518)
In your thread title, you referred to your fellow customer as a “Karen.” This kind of name calling is sexist and racist. Further, there is nothing wrong with requesting someone to back off.

Rather than being so proud of yourself that you did not “engage,” you might ask yourself why you needed to use a derogatory term.

How difficult was it to back up?

Someone needs to get a life


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