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Idaholady 08-15-2020 11:52 AM

Problems with sewer pipes in TV
 
I am new to TV and have had a horrendous sewer problem in the home I recently purchased. The plastic (whatever happened to concrete?) pipes in the front yard were laid incorrectly 12 years ago so they have large cracks in two places with roots invading, etc. It is so bad I have had to move out temporarily. Has anyone else ever had this problem and how was it resolved?:ohdear:

retiredguy123 08-15-2020 12:30 PM

Did the roots cause the cracks in the pipe? The only way to resolve the problem is to dig up the pipes and replace them. Then, make sure any trees and roots that could damage the pipes are removed.

Nucky 08-15-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817934)
I am new to TV and have had a horrendous sewer problem in the home I recently purchased. The plastic (whatever happened to concrete?) pipes in the front yard were laid incorrectly 12 years ago so they have large cracks in two places with roots invading, etc. It is so bad I have had to move out temporarily. Has anyone else ever had this problem and how was it resolved?:ohdear:

I'm very extremely sorry for your troubles. Whoa! I've been through the same thing twice. The second time I was forced to hire an Officer for Traffic Control during the excavation and repair. $60 per hour for him to sit in his car and listen to motivational discs. It was Orangeburg Pipe which is known to deteriorate over time. What a mess it was.

I'm surprised that you have had this problem. Chances are that when they backfilled the area and that they applied to much pressure with the backhoe and whacked up the pipe. It should be no more than a two-day repair IMHO. I wish you luck and hope you can put this terrible event behind you. :pray:

Get an Inspector and a Permit if Necessary. You'll be glad you did.

I haven't heard or seen evidence of anyone else having this exact problem.

The two houses in Marion County which took years to straighten out had problems with underground drainage pipes. They blamed it on a Sinkhole. IMHO I don't think that assessment was correct. The Drainage pipe was damaged and it took years for the damage to show its face. Just like in your yard. Lawyer Up and see what a professional has to say about your case.

Idaholady 08-15-2020 01:26 PM

Yes, the pipes have been repaired and replaced. Now the hazmat team comes in.

John41 08-15-2020 01:27 PM

Our neighbor had this problem and the plumber had a snake with a camera to locate the problem.

Idaholady 08-15-2020 01:29 PM

Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

retiredguy123 08-15-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

I don't think you can sue the home inspector because of the contract you signed for the inspection. Some home inspectors sell liability coverage for an extra fee, but, if you didn't buy the coverage, you would be out of luck. Also, the seller is protected unless you can prove they knew about the problem.

graciegirl 08-15-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

Rest assured it is unusual. Your pipes met code when the house was built. Things do settle and this IS a sinkhole area but not quite as bad as near Tampa. Unused pipes laying dormant outside in the summer heat can build up a lot of sludge from tiny celled creatures growing in the dark. If you or anyone else is not a year rounder be ready to flush them out and my hubs uses drain cleaner every once in awhile.

Dgizzi 08-15-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

It’s not “TV” any home anywhere can have this problem. Doubt you can lawyer up!

Lee Gilpin 08-16-2020 07:04 AM

Same problem in Liberty Park a few years ago. I experienced sheared off sewer pipe; it was repaired, and a few weeks later more fill dirt had to be added. This second work proved to me that excavations here are not sufficiently tamped. Settlement can shear off plastic pipes.
More on settlement: You will notice asphalt having been patched near many storm water drains along many of our roads. I believe that also due to insufficient tamping of the backfill around the initial construction.

Topspinmo 08-16-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Gilpin (Post 1818246)
Same problem in Liberty Park a few years ago. I experienced sheared off sewer pipe; it was repaired, and a few weeks later more fill dirt had to be added. This second work proved to me that excavations here are not sufficiently tamped. Settlement can shear off plastic pipes.
More on settlement: You will notice asphalt having been patched near many storm water drains along many of our roads. I believe that also due to insufficient tamping of the backfill around the initial construction.

IMO majority of sinkholes are under storm drains water mains, or transfer pipes. IMO The leak and saturation the ground down to cavity and collapse, IMO that man made collapse and NOT natural nature sinkhole as seen from google earth all Florida and most parts of country and world.

graciegirl 08-16-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Gilpin (Post 1818246)
Same problem in Liberty Park a few years ago. I experienced sheared off sewer pipe; it was repaired, and a few weeks later more fill dirt had to be added. This second work proved to me that excavations here are not sufficiently tamped. Settlement can shear off plastic pipes.
More on settlement: You will notice asphalt having been patched near many storm water drains along many of our roads. I believe that also due to insufficient tamping of the backfill around the initial construction.

Don't tampa the excavations Virginia. There is a possibility of stuff falling in here and all the way to Tampa. Type in these words;

Sinkhole Map of Florida.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-16-2020 09:41 AM

What do you mean by flush
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1817997)
Rest assured it is unusual. Your pipes met code when the house was built. Things do settle and this IS a sinkhole area but not quite as bad as near Tampa. Unused pipes laying dormant outside in the summer heat can build up a lot of sludge from tiny celled creatures growing in the dark. If you or anyone else is not a year rounder be ready to flush them out and my hubs uses drain cleaner every once in awhile.

them out and Is drain cleaner safe to use regular, lots of homes but no maintenance ability lol

KRM0614 08-16-2020 09:53 AM

We all have this problem villages should reimburse you. They did a lousy job and don’t even connect the pipes properly. I rented a house for 2 months waiting to close the pipes backed up 3 times flooded kitchen toilets showers then the crooks from villages rentals tried to charge ME $500- for calling 3 plumbers to fix it. Couldn’t shower for 4 days in June 2019

Nucky 08-16-2020 10:08 AM

I would use your newly hired inspector to watch the repair. But what's done is done.

Talking to a Lawyer lets you know if you have options that the TOTV'S amateur lawyers aren't aware of. You may have nothing but the proper Lawyer would know more than us. There are Lawyers who know what your rites are against your own insurance company.

In Jersey, one of our kids drove his bike into an expensive car. Couldn't have been a Yugo rite. I was beside myself cause the victim was coming at us for about $10 grand. I went to my own lawyer who put me onto one of these insurance lawyers and turns out our Homeowners took care of the bill. It cost me about $150 for the consultation.

I'm glad things worked out for you. Did you have a stump taken out by a grinder or did any neighbor who is next door have a service like that performed? The vibration could have also been what broke or fractured the pipe. Once the pipe is broken the roots will seek out the water leaking from it.

The rest of your Villages life hopefully will be uneventful. Only good events anyway.

MandoMan 08-16-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Idaholady (Post 1817984)
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Contemplating lawyering up but to what end? TV, the seller, the home inspector? Not the way I’d pictured my new life in TV!

Didn’t your home come with a buyer’s protection warranty? Check to see if that problem is covered.

PugMom 08-16-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1817997)
Rest assured it is unusual. Your pipes met code when the house was built. Things do settle and this IS a sinkhole area but not quite as bad as near Tampa. Unused pipes laying dormant outside in the summer heat can build up a lot of sludge from tiny celled creatures growing in the dark. If you or anyone else is not a year rounder be ready to flush them out and my hubs uses drain cleaner every once in awhile.

can you tell me what kind of cleaner you used? we were warned about using ANY kind of chemical drain opener/unclogger due to the plastic pipes. so far i've been using a common household plastic snake on occasion to grab whatever snuck down the drain

jet10s 08-16-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1818381)
don't tampa the excavations virginia. There is a possibility of stuff falling in here and all the way to tampa. Type in these words;

sinkhole map of florida.

what~~?????

Nucky 08-16-2020 07:32 PM

We don't know what a lawyer for this area of expertise knows. The free consultation would be to find out if there is an avenue to pursue that he or she may instinctively know about because they do this for a living day in and day out. If you have no recourse than at least you will know you tried. I'm rooting for you trust me. Nobody needs a financial hit just after moving into a new home.

What if the last owners took down a tree and had the stump ground down and the vibration from the grinder cracked the pipe. They never got a permit and never made a disclosure on that form that your not supposed to lie on. What if they lied? Bingo! A lie survives the closing of title and you got their lying Azzes. Go Get 'Em! What if they discussed it with their realtor? Double Bing! Lawyer Up! If someone did something to you you're a victim if they didn't suck it up and go on with your life here. You've got a great story to tell at driveway neighborhood parties. If you need help we'll send Rocco & Vito over to help! (Just kidding about that part)

If it's not too personal could you mention how much the repair cost? It may or may not be worth it. If it's too personal I would understand that you may not want to talk about it. I wish you luck. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Don't forget to let us know the good $$$ news $$$ when you get it. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Jerseygirl08 08-20-2020 09:06 AM

poor workmanship
 
I came home from work one day, around 2010, and saw water gushing down the street. Sadly discovered it was from my house. I can't remember how I got the number but I called the company who was responsible for placing the water pipes. There is access (under a heavy lid) to my pipes. The lid was removed and the area excavated. It appeared the plastic pipes had been poorly placed. The elbow was not 45 degrees but more like a V shape. That caused tension and the pipe came apart at the connection point; hence, gushing water. The company came in a replaced that section of pipe, put it all back together - no charge. Guess I was lucky. In patio villas, your "water lid" is on the lawn of your neighbor to the left of you, back facing your house. Hope you can resolve your problem as easily as I resolved mine.


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