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Miguel 1952 08-16-2020 05:41 PM

Why is the new shingles vaccine (Shingrix) so expensive for Part D of Medicare?
 
We seniors need this new shingles vaccine yet is very expensive with Part D prescription. I have SilverScripts and is $155 per vaccine and we must have two spread apart by several months.
Really disappointed as I really like Medicare with my supplemental and my Part D prescription.

Stu from NYC 08-16-2020 06:09 PM

We got it last year and didnt pay that much but was expensive.

Be that as it may I took the two shots and than about a month later got shingles.

Apparently my system was not fully protected and so got a very mild case.

If that was a mild case cannot imagine the pain and discomfort of a more severe case.

In any case as long as you can afford it strongly suggest you get the shots.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-16-2020 07:25 PM

The cost without insurance ranges between $200 and $300. Medicare part D pays around half that. GoodRx will get you a shot for $155. That's for Shingrix specifically. If you want Zostravax it'd cost less, Medicare covers more, but it's less effective and you have to get it more often.

Shingrix is (theoretically) a one and done, once you have the appropriate two-dose vaccination in the right amount of time. But it will start to lose its effectiveness after 4 years, bringing it to "only" 85% effective (which is pretty impressive).

gatherer47 08-16-2020 07:34 PM

I just paid $45 through United Health Care Advantage plan

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-16-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gatherer47 (Post 1818604)
I just paid $45 through United Health Care Advantage plan

I paid nothing with my Connecticare, in February 2019. But that was in Connecticut. I don't know anything about coverage for Shingrix down here. Different plans offer different coverage. Connecticare was comprehensive.

Stu from NYC 08-16-2020 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1818599)
The cost without insurance ranges between $200 and $300. Medicare part D pays around half that. GoodRx will get you a shot for $155. That's for Shingrix specifically. If you want Zostravax it'd cost less, Medicare covers more, but it's less effective and you have to get it more often.

Shingrix is (theoretically) a one and done, once you have the appropriate two-dose vaccination in the right amount of time. But it will start to lose its effectiveness after 4 years, bringing it to "only" 85% effective (which is pretty impressive).

New one on me that it will start to lose its effectiveness in 4 years. I would really not like to get shingles again.

joeharing 08-17-2020 05:12 AM

Humana advantage.
47.oo

Singerlady 08-17-2020 05:25 AM

Unfortunately, it all depends on your insurance. Mine was a $25 copay.

riley2011 08-17-2020 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1818565)
We seniors need this new shingles vaccine yet is very expensive with Part D prescription. I have SilverScripts and is $155 per vaccine and we must have two spread apart by several months.
Really disappointed as I really like Medicare with my supplemental and my Part D prescription.

If you think that’s bad the doctor I go to is charging $2100 for a prolia shot (for osteoporosis).

graciegirl 08-17-2020 05:42 AM

CDC says new shingles vaccine is much more effective for older people. (read this)

I wonder if we called Publix and see if we can wait in the car in the parking lot until it is our turn to get the shot?

Shingrix vs Zostavax - What's the difference between them?

Tankerrich 08-17-2020 05:49 AM

If you have Tricare For Life (Retired Military) and on Medicare, it's FREE. Got mine this year at Walgreens who takes TFL in Lauderdale by the Sea, FL

oneclickplus 08-17-2020 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1818577)
Be that as it may I took the two shots and than about a month later got shingles..

Only a month later ... any thought that the vaccine may have caused your shingles episode?

Nell57 08-17-2020 06:20 AM

No charge for mine, but I’m probably paying a higher monthly premium for my part D than yours.
You might want to look at other plans and compare coverages during open enrollment periods this fall.,

CWGUY 08-17-2020 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by riley2011 (Post 1818673)
If you think that’s bad the doctor I go to is charging $2100 for a prolia shot (for osteoporosis).

:) https://www.prolia.com/paying-for-pr...istPriceAnchor

LG999 08-17-2020 06:35 AM

The shots are expensive but they are worth every penny. We both had side effects for 1-2 days after. Very cold, exhausted. All joints & muscles hurt. We know ppl who got shingles & all this is worth not getting it to us.

NotGolfer 08-17-2020 06:38 AM

Addressing the getting shingles once you've had the shot....it's still possible to contract them, but I was told then the case may be more mild. Nonetheless, getting them is nasty from what I'm told.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-17-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1818636)
New one on me that it will start to lose its effectiveness in 4 years. I would really not like to get shingles again.

It will still be effective. It'll just be only up to 85% effective, instead of over 95% effective.

Eg_cruz 08-17-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1818565)
We seniors need this new shingles vaccine yet is very expensive with Part D prescription. I have SilverScripts and is $155 per vaccine and we must have two spread apart by several months.
Really disappointed as I really like Medicare with my supplemental and my Part D prescription.

Why do you need the new one......did you not get the old one
If you got the original one why do you need an other.

CWGUY 08-17-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net (Post 1818732)
Why do you need the new one......did you not get the old one
If you got the original one why do you need an other.

:ohdear: I would discuss that with my doctor. :oops:

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-17-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1818681)
CDC says new shingles vaccine is much more effective for older people. (read this)

I wonder if we called Publix and see if we can wait in the car in the parking lot until it is our turn to get the shot?

Shingrix vs Zostavax - What's the difference between them?

At Publix the line to get to the pharmacy counter is marked by big green Publix dots on the floor, in 6-foot increments. Only one person at the counter at a time. Once you're processed through the very brief paperwork, you're asked to sit to the side in an area designated for that. There are only two chairs there, each facing a different direction, several feet apart (theory: if you're facing the opposite direction NEXT to the other person, it's very unlikely that germs can transmit from one to the other even if it's less than 6 feet away, since you're not breathing toward them at all).

Keep in mind though - just as an FYI: the Shingrix shot hurts a little going in - might or might hurt for the next hour - but that night it'll be VERY sore. Your entire arm. The first night is the worst. The second day is tolerable, the second night is still sore but 100% bearable. The third day you're usually fine again.

Once you get the shot, raise and lower your arm, shrug your shoulder, flex your fingers on that arm continually for the next hour. That'll reduce the ache.

JonWilliams 08-17-2020 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1818565)
We seniors need this new shingles vaccine yet is very expensive with Part D prescription. I have SilverScripts and is $155 per vaccine and we must have two spread apart by several months.
Really disappointed as I really like Medicare with my supplemental and my Part D prescription.

If you ever get shingles, you'll happily pay a lot more than $155 to get rid of it.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-17-2020 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net (Post 1818732)
Why do you need the new one......did you not get the old one
If you got the original one why do you need an other.

1. I'm not seeing in that person's post anything about having received the old one.
2. If he got the old one, he'd know that it wears off at some point and has to be done again.
3. If he's going to have to do it again (or do it for the very first time ever) then he might as well get the one that'll last the longest, with the best efficacy of the two.

Corvettegal 08-17-2020 07:00 AM

I just received the shots. Part 1 two months ago and Part 2 last week. My total cost for both shots was $84. I have Medicare BCBS PPO of MIchigan for my insurance. I do not know what insurance you have. It seems a little high cost for you. I would check into your insurance and see why it costs so much

ruralgoddess 08-17-2020 07:00 AM

I paid nothing for the vaccinations through my United Health Care policy.

Villagesgal 08-17-2020 07:06 AM

My medicare plan paid the entire thing, no out of pocket at all. Everyone has a different plan for different reasons. I have Plan F and love it. I pay more but for me it's worth it, no worries and piece of mind. I'd suggest you look at plans closely during open enrollment and possibly find a better one for you. $155.00 is cheap compared to getting shingles, a friend had it and was in agony for 4 weeks.

Mike Shebel 08-17-2020 07:18 AM

Please, contact Prolia directly and they will assist in payment, even with insurance. Most people don’t realize that.

If you have questions, speak with the office manager of the physicians office you go to. They have direct access to the manufacturers.

Hope this helps!

Teachbeach 08-17-2020 07:55 AM

I have had both Z (before Shingrix was manufactured) and then the 2 dose Shingrix shots. Insurance paid for all as it's considered preventative, even though given at Pharmacy. I would check w/ your supplemental, if you have one because mine was covered like the flu shot & pneumonia vaccine-

DrHitch 08-17-2020 08:06 AM

Yes, the 2-part Shingrex vaccine is fairly expensive. We are waiting until October to see if other prescription costs may cover our Medicare Part D deductable...then the Shingrex (at least the 2nd shot) should be covered or less costly....timing is 2 months apart.....it all depends on your particular part D plan

Stu from NYC 08-17-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1818695)
Only a month later ... any thought that the vaccine may have caused your shingles episode?

Not at all.

Several medical people I asked thought the logical explanation was my immunity via the vaccine was not fully in place yet. Also my family Dr whom I had the utmost faith in thought it might have been brewing in me before taking the vaccine.

Considering what my brother in law went thru in getting a full blown course of shingles I was kind of lucky.

Scorpyo 08-17-2020 08:19 AM

Yeah, you would think the shots should be covered 100% given that it should, in my opinion, be considered preventative medicine. I have Humana Advantage in GA. My portion was $153.83 at Walmart Pharmacy. I'm not complaining about the cost especially considering the alternative. I wonder how much more than the $153.83 it would have cost Humana had I contracted Shingles?

MandoMan 08-17-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1818565)
We seniors need this new shingles vaccine yet is very expensive with Part D prescription. I have SilverScripts and is $155 per vaccine and we must have two spread apart by several months.
Really disappointed as I really like Medicare with my supplemental and my Part D prescription.

Get the Shingrix two part vaccine, which is thought to be 89% to 95% effective against shingles, rather than the Zostavax, which is only about 50% effective. If you ever get shingles, you will definitely wish you had had the vaccine, whatever the cost.

I’ve had both, and I got them both for free (to me) due to the health insurance I had when employed. However, my health insurance was billed about $360 for the Shingrix vaccine two part combo. That’s a lot of money, but there are drugs used for treating shingles once you get it that cost a lot more than that!

Shingles is a herpes-based Disease, like chicken-pox. If you get the regular herpes people talk about, the antiviral drugs that can keep you from having attacks cost around $1,000 a month, I believe. If you are taking PReP to keep from getting HIV, I think that is also about $1,000 a month. If you have HIV and are taking drugs to stay alive, I believe that cocktail costs about $2,000 a month. I have two dear friends in Hobe Sound, Florida, in adjacent rooms, fighting for their lives right now to survive Covid-19. They have both had convalescent plasma antibodies—the man has had two doses. I have no idea what that costs, but I’d be very surprised if it was less than $5,000 a dose.

This is why the total cost of health care is so high. If my friends, age 91 and 85, with big health problems before catching Covid-19, are in the hospital under continuous, high-quality care for a month, whether or not they live, I’m sure they will have cost we the people a million dollars, even if they don’t have to pay much of it. Their Medicare Advantage plan will pay, and other people with that plan will then have to pay the premiums. This is how it works. And Medicare will pay, and all taxpayers pay for that. I’d rather pay my taxes than have shingles or herpes or HIV or Covid-19. I’m grateful for the excellent and seamless care my friends are receiving and the dedicated people helping them.

CWGUY 08-17-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1818838)
Yeah, you would think the shots should be covered 100% given that it should, in my opinion, be considered preventative medicine. I have Humana Advantage in GA. My portion was $153.83 at Walmart Pharmacy. I'm not complaining about the cost especially considering the alternative. I wonder how much more than the $153.83 it would have cost Humana had I contracted Shingles?

:shocked: We have a Humana Advantage Plan and the co-pay was $1 each shot. I guess they have a number of different plans???

PugMom 08-17-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1818606)
I paid nothing with my Connecticare, in February 2019. But that was in Connecticut. I don't know anything about coverage for Shingrix down here. Different plans offer different coverage. Connecticare was comprehensive.

my friends who had Connecticare RAVED about it-said it was better than BC/BS

merrymini 08-17-2020 08:37 AM

I was going to have the Shingrix shot but decided to call my insurance when I found out how much it cost. Then the china flu happened and they did not do any shots at Walgreens. I have very good coverage but it does not cover this shot according to Walgreen’s. It seems impossible to talk to anyone on the phone now but plan to take asap.

Spike380 08-17-2020 08:56 AM

I also only paid $45 for the 1st shot. Haven't had the 2nd one yet.

kendi 08-17-2020 09:04 AM

We paid nothing with UHC in Cincinnati.

Skip 08-17-2020 09:36 AM

When you say "I paid $1 or I paid nothing", you need to state which type you received: Shingrix or Zostavax. Both are available. They have different co-pays too.
For Tier 5 drugs you usually have a $395 deductible first then you pay 25% of the total cost after that deductible on an "Advantage Plan".
Skip

Sheila Fisher 08-17-2020 11:11 AM

What phase of your plan are you in?

Snorkl46 08-17-2020 11:51 AM

I got my first in 2019 and second in 2020. They both cost $28.50 at Walgreen's. The difference must be in the type of Part D that you have.

dpmers 08-17-2020 12:07 PM

I got both shots at Publix $40 ea, after my horrible bout with shingles I would have paid much much more to have avoided that experience. It's been 11 years since my bout and I still have occasional light pain


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