Mailboxes not being removed-ha!
 

From Facebook....

"My mom went to drop off her mail at the mailbox she’s used for *decades* and found the site blocked off. The mailboxes are being ripped out. She’s 85. This is how she pays her bills. She knows this is deliberate."

Yep, not being removed...just locked.
California

Not only are mailboxes under siege — also mail-sorting machines are being removed from branches across the country.

I have heard people say, “Oh, but those sorting machines are outdated.”

When I ask, “If those machines are suddenly so outdated and need to be removed, what would be the big deal about waiting just a little longer — you know, like maybe after the first of the year — and with a plan to replace them — so the PO would not be left completely hamstrung and flailing for the rest of 2020?”

Seems like, I can never get an answer from the excusers.

Do they not answer me because they are complicit?

Or do they not answer because they are so used to buying into egregious maneuvers that they are numb to what is happening right under their noses?

Or do they not answer because they have fallen hook, line, and sinker for whatever their favorite television channel plants in their brains?

Or is a hijacked amygdala their problem?

Or do they think it’s just fine to wipe one’s behind with the Constitution?

Whatever it is — I cannot seem to get an answer from the excusers as to why the timing of the attack on the PO must be NOW?

Hmmmm, whatever could it be?

Why can’t those who blithely excuse this transparent attack on the PO answer my simple question, — “Why now?”

Inquisitive Boomer

In TV?

Somewhere else USA?

Corner "mailbox"?

Postal station in TV?

Why not?

Yep! The local P.M of my hometown removed the mailbox from the end of my street in 1963 I believe - and it never was replaced! Had to walk a mile into town to mail letters to my friends in college since carriers did not take outgoing mail st homes back then!

As the need for a box decreases it is removed. Been going on for years. But she could avoid the walk an put her outgoing letter in the box she receives her mail in and the post office will deliver it to who ever she sent it too. All I can verify is that I put my mail in the same box that I receive the mail in and it works.

Living in Va the nearest box was about a mile away.

All mailboxes came with a red flag that you would flip up when you had outgoing mail and the carrier would take it back. Very easy.

No question that the model of the post office is very broken and has been for years.

Part of it is a mandate from the govt including funding pensions for a ridiculous amount of time as well as underpricing services like delivering packages for Amazon< No way can they make a profit doing next day delivery including weekends.

First class mail is way down and will continue to decrease based on the world we live in and lets face it 55 cents for a stamp is too little.

At some point they do have to fix this, why not now?

Newman is available and according to the Peter principle is available to undertake the task.

PS: Lets see if anyone gets the reference.:)

We're fortunate in TV that we can drop off outgoing letters when we pick up our incoming mail...and the folks that deliver to our mail boxes always show up and are great people

When we lived up north we were in a rural farming community with about 1700 voters (but close to the interstate hwys)...we all had mailboxes with red flags...the delivery person picked up and dropped off mail. The post office closed for lunch between 11:30am and 12:30pm daily....in the spring, they'd designate one day to give out fresh strawberry shortcake to anyone that stopped in....you walked in and you were greeted by first name....it was like "Cheers" everybody knew your name (and your business...lol). The only 'blue' mail boxes in town were outside the post office....

when we lived in Ft Lauderdale one of the carriers serving our area was fired....at 2:30pm whatever mail she hadn't delivered she threw away, because she needed to get to her second job and apparently you couldn't come back to the PO with undelivered mail. Bad help is easy to find.

I guess both sides like conspiracy theories.

Not only that but if things stay the same we will be blaming the USPS for four years.

If it was posted on Fakebook...It must be true.

Wonder why we never got any cake.:shocked:

I retired at the end of 2018 from USPS with 30 years....just so you know...mail volume has fallen drastically since 2008...first class mail has almost bottomed out...the machines that you speak of-- DBCS (Delivery Bar Code Sorters) are ancient and are extremely expensive to operate due to parts breaking down---belts, bearings, and rollers--thousands for each machine (I worked on all of these as an electronic technician)...on top of the maintenance you have more than 90 percent of those operating the machines truly do not care about whether the mail gets out or not....as for the mailboxes--if the lock on the bottom is damaged or the drop lid malfunctions, USPS will put a lockout on the box until someone from the outside shop can actually pick the box up.

Over 12,000 mail collection boxes were removed between 2011 and 2016. Yet somehow these few that are now being removed are a deliberate attempt by President Trump to destroy the Post Office.

Boxes are being removed because, with the advent of email, online banking and other technological advances there is less and less need for physical mail.

It's been going on for a long time.

That is the state of journalism today. So sad

When you loose billions of dollars by miss-management Either you change or go out of business. O wait This federal government business model! when you have more managers than workers everything over managed or not enough grunts to do job. Get people out of offices and do primary job.

Sad that govt see no reason to make the post office more efficient either by how they buy equipment or how they employ people to do the actual work of moving mail along.

I can't find a pay phone either...

The USPS is a service that works well for rural citizens, veterans getting their scrips from the VA, and many others. I don't mind paying for it. No other Federal agency is required to make a profit, why should the USPS be required to?

Aka scam book. People have no idea how many innocent looking posts and games are actually scammers

Our parents are in late 80s, post office less than a mile away. Last time they were at the post office was 2 years ago, because parking lot at meat market was full.

They pay bills And bank online , ship prepaid packages from their front door. I don’t think we have mailed or bought stamps in more than 5 years

Maybe the USPO is not required to make a profit,
but it should be required to run efficiently.

Pandemic
 

The “Pony Express” has been limping along for many years. Lots of blame to go around. Then the coronavirus came along and mail in voting has been increased by the States because we are in the middle of a deadly pandemic. Now is no time to cut the funding of the USPS.

Funny posts.
How many pay phones are there now? I bet nobody walks to a mailbox in TV and if they do they use their golf carts so I guess you can go an extra half a mile do the actual post office or mail center. As to the condition of the post office blame your politicians we're squeezing all the money out of the system play insisting on then being able to pay pensions out to year 75
Social Security will go broke in 13 years but we'll still have mail. Oh and by the way if you insist on getting your mail picked up at your door just leave it there and use the internet to request a pickup it's a free service which I'm sure us cheap seniors will love. So to all the conspiracy that are on this board if you actually knew what was going on he'd be happy to have a real business person in charge of the mail service 2 get the efficiency up. Maybe if you would insist on the real cost a first-class postage being on fire to generate money to pay for machinery and the overtime you would understand how real business needs to work

Agreed. This is also why socialism does not work. Is the govt really going to do a better job controlling the entire economy and owning the means of production.

BTW I do walk about 0.6 miles most mornings to get the mail. And in my neighborhood at least a few more do so.

Well, here I am, quoting myself (geez). But it’s been a few days since I asked the question, “Why now?”

I still don’t have an answer. Maybe that’s because I segued the OP’s Facebook post into my asking for reasons why what is happening to the post office is happening at this time in history. Why now?

Nobody answered my question. And, oh my, I think someone implied that I must be a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, right.

Anyway, I started to get the feeling that I had been offensive by asking people to think about what is happening right under their noses and then give an explanation of why they think the timing of trying to hamstring the PO is OK.

But (sigh) no answer yet.

I hope you will read through my quote above, including the multiple choices of my thoughts about what could possibly be causing excusers to excuse. I really want to know how people can excuse the sudden attack on the PO. — Why now?

I remain,
Inquisitive Boomer

I don't know why but I know a lot of folks seem to manage to make things into something else in order to prop up their own way of thinking.

Not all English majors are political analysts.

There is not a rascal in every wood pile.

No matter how we think about mail in votes, we are going to have mail in votes and we are going to have an election.

However, afterward, both sides will say they won, lost, said elections because of the post office and or mail in votes.

I think said election will be won/lost because the really smart people in this country aren't running. They have all retired to The Villages.

The answer is in post number 13. It happens all the time only the press doesn't usually make an issue out of it.

I repeat the question raised by Boomer...why now ?

No reason at all. States, who control the process, have done a great job with the issue being raised, and never has the system left us down. Why now has not been replied to.

With all due respect Inquisitive Boomer, I think the answer to your question of "why now" is pretty obvious.

“Deliver de letter, the sooner de better“
 

About those sorting machines — some stats for you:

It has been declared that those sorting machines will not be put back. There seem to be a lot of excuses — like this is normal. (Oh, how I miss normal.)

Anyway, I thought I would check to see how normal it is to get rid of those mail-sorting machines that we see trashed in those pictures.

Here is what I learned:

Number of Mail-Sorting Machines Removed and When:

2018 — 125

2019 — 186

2020 — 671 ordered removed — 600 done — and not coming back

Numbers of Machines Removed in Certain States:

FL: 59
TX: 58
OH: 34
PA: 30
MI: 26
NC: 15
VA: 12
WI: 12
GA: 11

That looks to me like 38% were removed from just 9 states.

Anybody see a pattern?

I remain,
Inquisitive Boomer

Good job....I am not Columbo, but

ONE MORE THING

Finding conspiracies where there are none is a constructive way to spend your 'golden years.'

No it is not. I sure wish all would stop looking HOWEVER, THE posters question originally and really not answered was......WHY NOW.....and now add WHY only certain ?

They are question worthy of answer......the conspiracy theory, if there ever was one began on high, not here and not anywhere else.

Now we are told, NOBODY seems to know who did this....that adds to the confusion and chaos, NOT the conspiracy theory.

This is a taxpayer owned system and they deserve answers, don't you think.

It would be pretty easy, if a conspiracy theory to take further steps in that so called conspiracy, but nobody on this forum has the deserved answer and those who "know" or should know won't answer.

Everybody talks about efficiency....if my company had a situation like this, answers would be not only forthcoming but demanded and certainly by someone who took over LOUDLY.

I do get it,,...just more chaos

nm/

You win
 

You win my vote for quote of the year. “I think said election will be won/lost because smart people in this country aren’t running. They have all retired to The Villages.” :bigbow:

US house of Reps called in to vote on a $25 Bill to support the USPO (Money not needed for the election voting) , postmaster General called before congress states there is no problem, if the states mail out ballots on time and if people mail them in on time.

People are manufacturing a problem that does not exist. The real problem is not the USPO, but rather the people who are complaining. Get your mail in ballot in time and mail it in time. If you screw up, go vote in person.

;not that there's anything wrong with that,'...:ho:

Identity Theft
 

Over the last several years, at our primary residence, the local police have warned us NOT to use our curbside mailbox for outgoing mail. Too many thieves steal the mail, looking for checks that they can wash and other identity theft problems.

It is a further distance, but placing your outgoing mail in a USPS mailbox is still more secure.

Because when you lose billions of dollars you have to cut somewhere. You don’t think there going to cut management do you? You know the old saying Shyt rolls down hill. Postal service is bigger waste than public schools where management and unions have taken over and ruins the product by over management 6 figure plus salaries that add nothing to day to day operations. Then, there the Underlining agenda.