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lovsthosebigdogs 08-18-2020 09:34 AM

North Korea killing pet dogs!
 
As a dog lover this sickens me. I don't have any idea if anything can be done about it and I know some of you will say "it's just a dog" and children are starving all over the world... etc, but my dogs and pets in general mean a lot to me. Think of how you would feel if the govt forced this on you. How dreadful. My heart goes out to these people.
I've included just one link to a news story about this so you will know I'm not making this up.
N. Korea rounds up people’s pets due to national food shortage: report

Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 09:57 AM

Read about it this morning.

N Korea is a brutal dictatorship and every living creature living there suffers.

bluedivergirl 08-18-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819355)
Read about it this morning.

N Korea is a brutal dictatorship and every living creature living there suffers.

It is. I had the great pleasure of working with a young architect from South Korea, who was in the US on an H1B visa. He told me many stories of living in Korea; some first-hand, others family stories.

He told me many people from North Korea are disfigured from smallpox. N Korea's army is large because they are the only people who receive food rations, meager as they are.

Velvet 08-18-2020 11:28 AM

They are probably killing more than dogs... have you noticed how many Covid cases are “officially” in North Korea? You are talking about a Communist (Marxist) country.

Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 12:09 PM

What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

Is it for meat? Is it for something to do?

I think it is wrong to kill dogs but if you are starving and no other choice to be had could understand that. As the old movie went "They shoot horses, don they".

Here dogs are pets in Asia they are often a source of meat. Not saying it is right just what happens.

Two Bills 08-18-2020 12:26 PM

East Asia have been eating dogs for ever. Different culture, different point of view.
If I was starving, I would eat anything that walked, crawled, swam or slithered.

EastCoastDawg 08-18-2020 12:48 PM

Peruvians eat guinea pigs, whereas we would consider them pets. They run around the kitchen eating the scraps, then become a useful addition to the evening meal.

EastCoastDawg 08-18-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819443)
What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

"N. Korea rounds up people’s pets due to national food shortage"

Tennisbum 08-18-2020 02:56 PM

'They have been eating dog for eons. Don't think the local PETA branch would stand a chance! They may gain a foothold in the cities, but in the country, you eat what's available!!

Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 1819465)
"N. Korea rounds up people’s pets due to national food shortage"

That would be my guess as well.

Dana1963 08-18-2020 03:52 PM

Get over it dog in a mammal, sheep are cute we eat lamb. It’s common to eat baby goats around Easter for some nationalities and the way they treat calf’s for veal.

MandoMan 08-18-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lovsthosebigdogs (Post 1819337)
As a dog lover this sickens me. I don't have any idea if anything can be done about it and I know some of you will say "it's just a dog" and children are starving all over the world... etc, but my dogs and pets in general mean a lot to me. Think of how you would feel if the govt forced this on you. How dreadful. My heart goes out to these people.
I've included just one link to a news story about this so you will know I'm not making this up.
N. Korea rounds up people’s pets due to national food shortage: report

Before we see the eating of dogs as a peculiar feature of Communism, it’s worth noting that later in the same article we find an estimate that in SOUTH Korea in 2018, two million dogs were eaten, most bred and raised for food. I’ve personally seen half a dozen skinned dog carcasses tied to a bicycle being ridden to a dog restaurant in Guangzhou, China.

It’s generally thought that the Aztecs and other Native American groups bred chihuahuas, turkeys, and guinea pigs for eating. I like dogs a lot, but I’ve known a few that deserve to be stewed, some of them particularly yappy and nippy chihuahuas. (Not that I would eat them.)

In a lot of countries, dogs, like pigs, primarily eat garbage people don’t want. It’s sad, but true. (Well, in some countries that’s what poor children eat, too.) My dog only eats a quarter cup of food twice a day. I have friends, though, with three big labs that eat in a day what my dog weighs. In times of hunger, a lot of people watching their children starve resent the Communist party elite with their well-fed pets.

Topspinmo 08-18-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819443)
What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

Is it for meat? Is it for something to do?

I think it is wrong to kill dogs but if you are starving and no other choice to be had could understand that. As the old movie went "They shoot horses, don they".

Here dogs are pets in Asia they are often a source of meat. Not saying it is right just what happens.

Hunger! didn’t just miss lunch couple days.

Topspinmo 08-18-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tennisbum (Post 1819508)
'They have been eating dog for eons. Don't think the local PETA branch would stand a chance! They may gain a foothold in the cities, but in the country, you eat what's available!!

Over there they would probably eat PETA’s.

Topspinmo 08-18-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819443)
What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

Is it for meat? Is it for something to do?

I think it is wrong to kill dogs but if you are starving and no other choice to be had could understand that. As the old movie went "They shoot horses, don they".

Here dogs are pets in Asia they are often a source of meat. Not saying it is right just what happens.

Not even Bats are off the dinner table over there, and who wouldn’t want some tasty bird nest soup?

Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 06:15 PM

Asia has been a very poor continent for years and to them animals are food.

Only recently dogs have become pets in China

CanTho 08-18-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1819532)
Get over it dog in a mammal, sheep are cute we eat lamb. It’s common to eat baby goats around Easter for some nationalities and the way they treat calf’s for veal.

What you have posted is true.

In China for example except for the feathers every single part of a chicken is eaten.

" Everything ".

In Scotland a traditional dish is " Haggis " . Look up the recipe. I have had it many times. :)

Stu from NYC 08-18-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1819613)
What you have posted is true.

In China for example except for the feathers every single part of a chicken is eaten.

" Everything ".

In Scotland a traditional dish is " Haggis " . Look up the recipe. I have had it many times. :)

I have wat hed Haggis being made and think I will pass and let you have my share.:)

Ladygolfer93 08-19-2020 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819443)
What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

Is it for meat? Is it for something to do?

I think it is wrong to kill dogs but if you are starving and no other choice to be had could understand that. As the old movie went "They shoot horses, don they".

Here dogs are pets in Asia they are often a source of meat. Not saying it is right just what happens.

Yes, that's correct. Also, although South Korea, Singapore, and many other Asian countries do not feature dog meat, keep in mind that in the Asian culture it is not the taboo it is here in the U.S. and in north America in general (though I have seen it in Mexico in a far southern state). Just as some cultures would look at our consumption of cows/cattle shocking, we would of course find the consumption of cat and dogs shocking. China still (as I understand from someone still living there with our former international company) sells both live and slaughtered dogs in the meat markets. And, in those Asian countries that are more "progressive", like I mentioned South Korea, there is probably some portion of the population that prefers dog, even horse, meat, but not the norm like in China, North Korea, and a few others (not all Asian either). Considering how human beings are treated there, I doubt we could ever cause enough "back lash" to change anything, but, that's not to say "don't at least try". These folks do not have the luxury of feeding an extra mouth as a "pet". Remember just 6-8 months ago when Venezuela was suffering from their "dictator", how the zoos closed and all the animals "disappeared" ? What a lovely country that was once, guess I'll never get to go there again, used to love it there !

CanTho 08-19-2020 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladygolfer93 (Post 1819675)
Yes, that's correct. Also, although South Korea, Singapore, and many other Asian countries do not feature dog meat, keep in mind that in the Asian culture it is not the taboo it is here in the U.S. and in north America in general (though I have seen it in Mexico in a far southern state). Just as some cultures would look at our consumption of cows/cattle shocking, we would of course find the consumption of cat and dogs shocking. China still (as I understand from someone still living there with our former international company) sells both live and slaughtered dogs in the meat markets. And, in those Asian countries that are more "progressive", like I mentioned South Korea, there is probably some portion of the population that prefers dog, even horse, meat, but not the norm like in China, North Korea, and a few others (not all Asian either). Considering how human beings are treated there, I doubt we could ever cause enough "back lash" to change anything, but, that's not to say "don't at least try". These folks do not have the luxury of feeding an extra mouth as a "pet". Remember just 6-8 months ago when Venezuela was suffering from their "dictator", how the zoos closed and all the animals "disappeared" ? What a lovely country that was once, guess I'll never get to go there again, used to love it there !

You hit the nail on the head. All countries are different.

France for example slaughter horses for meat, as in horse meat, readily available at every supermarket.

To some that is really terrible and inhumane, that said that is just the way it is.

Viperguy 08-19-2020 08:18 AM

Protein. Gotta have it

Stu from NYC 08-19-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladygolfer93 (Post 1819675)
Yes, that's correct. Also, although South Korea, Singapore, and many other Asian countries do not feature dog meat, keep in mind that in the Asian culture it is not the taboo it is here in the U.S. and in north America in general (though I have seen it in Mexico in a far southern state). Just as some cultures would look at our consumption of cows/cattle shocking, we would of course find the consumption of cat and dogs shocking. China still (as I understand from someone still living there with our former international company) sells both live and slaughtered dogs in the meat markets. And, in those Asian countries that are more "progressive", like I mentioned South Korea, there is probably some portion of the population that prefers dog, even horse, meat, but not the norm like in China, North Korea, and a few others (not all Asian either). Considering how human beings are treated there, I doubt we could ever cause enough "back lash" to change anything, but, that's not to say "don't at least try". These folks do not have the luxury of feeding an extra mouth as a "pet". Remember just 6-8 months ago when Venezuela was suffering from their "dictator", how the zoos closed and all the animals "disappeared" ? What a lovely country that was once, guess I'll never get to go there again, used to love it there !

Bottom line it is their culture and country and it is not up to us to get them to change.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-19-2020 08:31 AM

Taking a persons pet away from them to kill for food or whatever is wrong , but I spent most of the 60’S and70’S in Southeast Asia and fog was on the menu in quite a few restaurants and served at peoples homes , you were better off not asking what you were eating

Topspinmo 08-19-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1819724)
You hit the nail on the head. All countries are different.

France for example slaughter horses for meat, as in horse meat, readily available at every supermarket.

To some that is really terrible and inhumane, that said that is just the way it is.

Someone has been stealing and slaughtering horse around here.

Topspinmo 08-19-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819845)
Bottom line it is their culture and country and it is not up to us to get them to change.

But, they want to bring that culture with them when the migrate here when it’s considered illegal here. Good example the horses in the area that been stolen slaughtered in last couple years.

Topspinmo 08-19-2020 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1819613)
What you have posted is true.

In China for example except for the feathers every single part of a chicken is eaten.

" Everything ".

In Scotland a traditional dish is " Haggis " . Look up the recipe. I have had it many times. :)

Nothing like chicken butt pie. Yummy :icon_wink:

Two Bills 08-19-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1819856)
Taking a persons pet away from them to kill for food or whatever is wrong , but I spent most of the 60’S and70’S in Southeast Asia and fog was on the menu in quite a few restaurants and served at peoples homes , you were better off not asking what you were eating

It's a wonder how you found it to eat! :icon_wink:

Stu from NYC 08-19-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1819939)
It's a wonder how you found it to eat! :icon_wink:

Tastes like chicken apparently:bigbow:

coffeebean 08-19-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819443)
What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

Is it for meat? Is it for something to do?

I think it is wrong to kill dogs but if you are starving and no other choice to be had could understand that. As the old movie went "They shoot horses, don they".

Here dogs are pets in Asia they are often a source of meat. Not saying it is right just what happens.

Read the first paragraph again. It says they are slaughtering the dogs so they can feed them to hungry North Koreans.

manaboutown 08-19-2020 07:15 PM

A friend of mine was in Africa with the Peace Corps years ago. He was eating a stew with a group from the local tribe one day when he noticed what appeared to be a baby's hand in his bowl. He literally threw up on the spot! It turned out to be a monkey's hand.

Kenswing 08-19-2020 07:22 PM

When I was in the service I made a couple of trips to South Korea . Their open air markets looked more like pet shops.. :22yikes:

JimJohnson 08-20-2020 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1819443)
What I found interesting is the article did not say why they are killing dogs.

Is it for meat? Is it for something to do?

I think it is wrong to kill dogs but if you are starving and no other choice to be had could understand that. As the old movie went "They shoot horses, don they".

Here dogs are pets in Asia they are often a source of meat. Not saying it is right just what happens.

I agree. Unless your a VEAGAN, you have no right to complain about this activity. Just like choosing which person should receive special rights and privileges using Race, Religion or Sexual Orientation as your yard stick, why choose which of God’s creatures you have the right to Eat. :pray:

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-20-2020 08:19 AM

During the war I was in Laos for 2 years
 
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1819939)
It's a wonder how you found it to eat! :icon_wink:

my troops were all natives and would invite me to join them for some occasions , i think over that time if it flew, ran or slithered through the jungle I probably ate it lol you be surprised what you can get used to

Stu from NYC 08-20-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1820298)
my troops were all natives and would invite me to join them for some occasions , i think over that time if it flew, ran or slithered through the jungle I probably ate it lol you be surprised what you can get used to

Especially if you put ketchup on it:)

And thank you for your service

Number 10 GI 08-20-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1820115)
A friend of mine was in Africa with the Peace Corps years ago. He was eating a stew with a group from the local tribe one day when he noticed what appeared to be a baby's hand in his bowl. He literally threw up on the spot! It turned out to be a monkey's hand.

A friend of mine was Special Forces in Viet Nam and his team was working with a Montagnard group fighting the Viet Cong. A new Captain taking over as the team leader was being honored with a feast by the village chief. Setting in a circle on the floor of the hut a woman brought in a steaming, baked mud ball. The chief broke off the mud and it contained a baked monkey. He then twisted the monkey's head off, gouged out the eyeballs and placed them on a plate and handed them to the new Captain. The Captain was turning a bit green but my friend leaned in towards his ear and told him that he was receiving a high honor by being offered the eyeballs and unless he wanted to anger the chief he had better gag them down. He popped them in his mouth and swallowed them whole.

eyc234 08-20-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1819457)
East Asia have been eating dogs for ever. Different culture, different point of view.
If I was starving, I would eat anything that walked, crawled, swam or slithered.

:bigbow:

Stu from NYC 08-20-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1820352)
A friend of mine was Special Forces in Viet Nam and his team was working with a Montagnard group fighting the Viet Cong. A new Captain taking over as the team leader was being honored with a feast by the village chief. Setting in a circle on the floor of the hut a woman brought in a steaming, baked mud ball. The chief broke off the mud and it contained a baked monkey. He then twisted the monkey's head off, gouged out the eyeballs and placed them on a plate and handed them to the new Captain. The Captain was turning a bit green but my friend leaned in towards his ear and told him that he was receiving a high honor by being offered the eyeballs and unless he wanted to anger the chief he had better gag them down. He popped them in his mouth and swallowed them whole.

Monkey brains are a delicassy (sp) in some cultures

davem4616 08-20-2020 12:44 PM

every culture pretty much eats what's readily available and plentiful...in times of shortage you do what you need to do to survive...my Italian father-in-law said that there were very few wild birds, rabbits, rats, cats and dogs in Italy by the end of WWII

as an aside though, this thread does makes me wanna go find out what's really in a hot dog

CanTho 08-20-2020 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1820352)
A friend of mine was Special Forces in Viet Nam and his team was working with a Montagnard group fighting the Viet Cong. A new Captain taking over as the team leader was being honored with a feast by the village chief. Setting in a circle on the floor of the hut a woman brought in a steaming, baked mud ball. The chief broke off the mud and it contained a baked monkey. He then twisted the monkey's head off, gouged out the eyeballs and placed them on a plate and handed them to the new Captain. The Captain was turning a bit green but my friend leaned in towards his ear and told him that he was receiving a high honor by being offered the eyeballs and unless he wanted to anger the chief he had better gag them down. He popped them in his mouth and swallowed them whole.

I know the feeling and trust me I have eaten a lot worse.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 08-21-2020 08:49 AM

Ha ha I didn’t need want to make people
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1820352)
A friend of mine was Special Forces in Viet Nam and his team was working with a Montagnard group fighting the Viet Cong. A new Captain taking over as the team leader was being honored with a feast by the village chief. Setting in a circle on the floor of the hut a woman brought in a steaming, baked mud ball. The chief broke off the mud and it contained a baked monkey. He then twisted the monkey's head off, gouged out the eyeballs and placed them on a plate and handed them to the new Captain. The Captain was turning a bit green but my friend leaned in towards his ear and told him that he was receiving a high honor by being offered the eyeballs and unless he wanted to anger the chief he had better gag them down. He popped them in his mouth and swallowed them whole.

thinking I was exaggerating, but I’ve had that same experience in Laos and Vietnam lol


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