If Floyd was white, we wouldn’t even know his name
 

If you go by what is reported by the national news networks, you would assume that unarmed blacks were being killed daily by police, in numbers much higher than whites. Actually there were 13 unarmed blacks shot by police last year and twice as many whites. The media decides what they want you to hear. If Floyd was white, the national news media wouldn’t even have picked up his story!!

Depends who is looking at it!

The exact same thing did happen to a white man. Yet there was no media coverage, no riots, no defund the police rhetoric. And clearly, his name is not widely known...

I think the reactions to these killings bring to mind how all black men regardless of social status can recount times they were stopped by police for no good reason. what I learned at the gathering by the African American club held after the George Floyd incident, is that it's now "if" but "how old were you when" you were first stopped by police. Even Sen. Tim Scott has written about how he's been stopped and how he was called boy and the officer had his hand on a weapon. Per his account:He described several encounters with police, including one where he was stopped because the officer suspected his car was stolen. He described a similar incident that happened to his brother, a command sergeant major in the U.S. Army. And he told the story of a staffer who was "pulled over so many times here in D.C. for absolutely no reason other than driving a nice car." The staffer eventually traded in his Chrysler for a "more obscure form of transportation" because "he was tired of being targeted."

none of these recent killings has the Black person being shot been the most shining example of their race, but it represents the extreme of the experience that all have experienced.

It's easy for us to say just follow what police tell you....we are not victims of the discriminatory practice of "driving while Black". it doesn't happen just once in their lives, it happens over and over. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to be driving somewhere you need to be and being pulled over for nothing. how degrading that feeling is? now multiply it....the anger is pushed down until something extreme happens and then it erupts.

look how some people are responding to not wearing masks-- the outrage over their "rights" as Americans not to wear a mask. from recent article: "Armed anti-mask protesters gathered outside the Ohio statehouse on Saturday for a 'civil disobedience rally' guarded by armed militia and military veterans.
Ohio does not yet have a statewide mandate on wearing masks but several groups converged Saturday afternoon to push back on the requirements already introduced in several counties.Hundreds of maskless people crowded together outside the courthouse in Columbus to voice their anger, claiming a requirement for face coverings is an overreach by local officials." ARMED militia over wearing masks????

Yet we give no consideration to how Blacks feel when their rights are infringed upon routinely. They are expected to just accept their treatment and have to give talks to their children how to avoid being killed during a police stop, something I never had to do to my white child.

People point to the looting and I oppose that as well but I'm not entirely sure some of these armed militia aren't stoking that to cause violence to advance their own causes.

Ask the rank and file black citizenry.....not the black criminals or the black jocks.

Swoop, cite your source(s), and name of victim, please.

healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/the-victim-personality/

Tony Timpa, google his name. You’ll get the local news coverage, complete with video, but no national coverage. But there were a few minor differences that make Tony’s story even worse...

Google will bring many results just like this.

https://www.postandcourier.com/georg...d219a1095.html

This double murder just occurred. Black man murders white man and his step daughter after traffic incident. It had to be all over the national news, can't believed you missed it.

show me the statistics that say White men in nice cars are routinely pulled over by police vs Black men. As I pointed out, EVERY Black man has experienced this. I was attempting to explain how even though George Floyd and Jacob Blake are not exemplary people, what they experienced was an extreme version of what all Black men endure--thus the collective anger. In those instances, it's not a "victim" personality--it's people going about their daily lives being stopped for no reason.

I was so struck by the African American Club members at the anti-racism demonstration--these are very educated people many of whom had high ranks in the military and/or successful careers (after all they can enjoy living in The Villages) and when one was describing "the talk" they all had to give their kids, every one of their male members were nodding their heads. They talked about the difference between a white student going to the prom vs a black students. how the black parents can't sleep because they worry the kids might be stopped by police. can you imagine? students dressed for the prom have to worry about that.

. . . . . Tony Timpa

Thank you Scoop for bring this to our attention.
I think Bjeanj should send a memo to CNN referring to this matter....

Responsibility (to ones family, country, and society) has NO color....self victimization is a mental disorder that has no color as well.

Please, “driving while black” is the most perpetrated false narrative. Yet if enough people repeat it, it must be true...

So many people parrot what they hear on MSM like it is actually a fact.

Are you kidding me?
 

Are you kidding me? It’s happened to Tim Scott a Republican senator seven times. Have you ever asked an African-American about it? Show me anything that says it’s a myth other than the opinion of people who want to believe it’s a myth.

You are correct. What doesn’t fit the media narrative doesn’t get reported. And what does get reported is distorted. Blake now admits to Wisconsin DOJ he had a weapon on the floor of his car, a knife, while he was reaching down inside his car. If the black community had a reputation for being law abiding, hard working instead of welfare dependents then there would be no issue with the police. Why doesn’t the media give attention to the successful blacks to create a more positive image?

Race and policing in America: 10 things we know | Pew Research Center

if anyone cares to read facts

Plenty of people claim it. Luckily more police now wear body cams to expose the truth.

NAACP president in SC says he was racially profiled; body cam video shows otherwise

Swoop, thank you for directing me to the news coverage of this arrest.

What this suggests to me is that police need to be retrained to NOT rely on guns or brute force for many situations. I don’t know what the answer is, but this has got to change.

How did you ever watch MSM???? Couldn't find it on Comcast lineup.

Cutting the cable is the cure for the affliction.

This is a survey of opinions not facts. The fact are in a 2019 Report by Michigan State University that I posted about a week ago. What you think are facts are just incorrect perceptions.

When I checked there is no such station as msm anywhere MSNBC?

I would imagine he didn't have a funeral fit for royalty either!

really? the Pew Research Center : Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions.

but maybe this one will be more scientific for you.

Findings - The Stanford Open Policing Project

There are more whites than blacks, so yah, there are probably more whites killed than blacks. Second of all, if George Floyd was white, he would have been treated to a big mac before heading to jail like the white guy that shot up and killed several of the churchgoers, but instead ended up with a knee across his neck for several minutes until he died. Nothing to see here.

Dallas Officers Pinned Tony Timpa and Joked During Fatal Encounter, Video Shows - The New York Times

Tony Timpa death: Dallas police body cam footage shows officers mocking a man who later died - CNN

Excited delirium cited in fatal police cases. Some say it's bogus.

Tony Timpa death: Disturbing video shows Dallas police officers joking as they restrain man who died - CBS News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

So true!

[QUOTE=Swoop;1823796]What is racist, is the news media selectively deciding what stories you see, based solely on race. Again, if Floyd had been white, his story would not have made it to the national news outlets. Tony Timpa’s death was startlingly similar, but he was white. That’s why you never saw his story, or know his name!![/QUOTE

well, then you didn't look very hard: and this was from cnn, nytimes, washington post

Tony Timpa death: Dallas police body cam footage shows officers mocking a man who later died - CNN

Dallas Officers Pinned Tony Timpa and Joked During Fatal Encounter, Video Shows - The New York Times

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...later-he-died/

Tony Timpa (a White man) was NOT treated to the funeral George Floyd got they both died the same way, WHY? :popcorn:

True

A Google search found this......
VIDEO: South Daytona Police killed man with knee to neck, back, attorney says

I would guess because there was no cell phone footage. The body cam footage wasn't released until much, much later. in fact the following from Dallas newspaper:

His mother immediately started asking questions — and says she found herself stonewalled at every turn. An acquaintance of her son's contacted The Dallas Morning News seeking answers.

The people who know most about what happened to Timpa — the Dallas Police Department — won't say.

The News has spent more than a year examining Timpa's death and fighting for public records from the city of Dallas and Dallas County.
Both have repeatedly blocked the release of any information about the police call on Aug. 10, 2016, citing a "continuing investigation."

But evidence unearthed by The News, NBC5 and lawyers for his family shows that Timpa, unarmed and frightened, died in the custody of police officers — as they mocked him.

So it looks like the big, bad, biased liberal media brought the story out to the public, long after the man's funeral.

I've always thought MSM means Main Stream Media. No????

Yes you are so right! Many white people get killed, rather criminals get killed. But do we riot! No cause if you do wrong , own up to it. If you run or fight the police you get hurt. “ They” always run and say “I didn’t do nothin’”

[QUOTE=Bonnevie;1823824]Did you ever hear of Tony Timpa before I posted his name? Of course you didn’t. His story wasn’t on every news network 24/7 for days. There were no riots, no calls for police reform. No celebrities spoke out on his behalf. Please, the only similarity is they died the same way, the big difference was the color of their skin!

Actually the officers involved in Tony Timpa’s death were never even charged with a crime. Could you imagine the outcry if that happened to the officers in the Floyd case...

Is this Tony Timpa tragic death case still open?
If no it should, In these pandering months we need to show and EQUAL-THINGS-OUT that White Life Matters also....

Here is another story on this: South Carolina college student, stepfather fatally shot in head on front lawn over fender bender: reports | Fox News