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Joe C. 10-12-2020 05:39 PM

Big Brother ??
 
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

kathyspear 10-12-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846505)
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.

Um, no, they don't.

kathy

Topspinmo 10-12-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846505)
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

Anybody that has cell/smart phone gave up there privacy the minute they entered their information and turned them on. Also with Google, FB, Yahoo!, Twitter And anything free all sell you private information. Only hackers can steal you’re banking accounts and you have to help them do it.

tophcfa 10-12-2020 07:03 PM

The only apps I will use are Spotify (music) and my radar (weather). I hate having everything I do being tracked. I do not want to be a data point!

Halibut 10-12-2020 07:37 PM

Unfortunately, the convenience of being online in any capacity comes with a certain loss of privacy. We all either need to make some sort of mental peace with it or do without.

We have an Alexa device which is used exclusively to play audiobooks. I've disabled the mic, all notifications, reminders, skills, etc. But it still bothers me a bit.

Should one agree with their goals, The Electronic Frontier Foundation could be one of the organization to support.

tophcfa 10-12-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 1846540)
Unfortunately, the convenience of being online in any capacity comes with a certain loss of privacy. We all either need to make some sort of mental peace with it or do without.

We have an Alexa device which is used exclusively to play audiobooks. I've disabled the mic, all notifications, reminders, skills, etc. But it still bothers me a bit.

Should one agree with their goals, The Electronic Frontier Foundation could be one of the organization to support.

Please don’t assume that since you have disabled certain functions, that said functions are actually disabled.

Two Bills 10-13-2020 04:05 AM

Why worry?
If it makes life easier or better. Use it.
Anyone tracking me will get bored to death anyway!

JimJohnson 10-13-2020 04:43 AM

Don’t let Fake Information paranoia dominate your life. Your life and habits are of no importance to anyone that matters. GGGGEEEEZZZZZZ!

Jsbedford 10-13-2020 05:55 AM

To test whether or not Siri or Alexa are listening, just mention some obscure catalog or movie and see what arrives in your mailbox or inbox pretty quickly afterwards.

bragones 10-13-2020 06:07 AM

Way too paranoid. Software security continues and privacy laws continue to improve dramatically. Why deny yourself one of the most revolutionary advancements in our time. I control my house with my phone and love it. As for banking, I get an alerts if anyone so much as looks at my account, much to my wife’s chagrin

rlcooper70 10-13-2020 06:29 AM

You comment that you don't use Siri and never have turned it on .... and using that as "evidence" that the bogeyman is intruding ... shows that you are probably correct .. you should toss your phone in the garbage.

Yes ... you life on the phone is likely being stored in a giant network near a hydroelectric plant in Washington State ... yes ... but if Siri is "on" ... you did it buddy.

joseppe 10-13-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846505)
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

They are after you! I would get rid of the phone immediately. Its the only way to be safe.

Joe C. 10-13-2020 06:49 AM

[Um, no, they don't
kathy[/QUOTE]

Well, if Siri doesn't read my email, then why did it send me a notification of what was in my email??

BTW when the apps ask if they can use your location, and you say "no", do you really think that they aren't using it? Of course they are. When you get an app, you agree to their terms by hitting "I accept". BUT DID YOU REALLY READ WHAT YOU AGREED TO? Read it word for word before accepting would be a good idea.

Dana1963 10-13-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846505)
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

Do you have a SMART TV and is it connected to the Internet thru your tv provider. How Retail Stores Track You Using Your Smartphone (and How to Stop It) der? Your car is even connecting thru bluetooth/wifi How Retail Stores Track You Using Your Smartphone (and How to Stop It)
Ever notice when using a computer or tablet for searches or general browsing ads will start appearing general to your search. It's not just iPhone it's any smartphone and Flip Phones have the same capability.
In regards to your pending appointment, you may have been notified thru your calendar.

Girlcopper 10-13-2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846505)
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

No. No one reads your email. Yes, there is tracking of your searhes. Did you ever think to check your settings??

wsachs 10-13-2020 07:06 AM

Don't throw it away. You can have all info wiped on it, donate it to the military, battered women's shelters, etc. Your carrier will probably give you a flip phone free.

Joe C. 10-13-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1846668)
No. No one reads your email. Yes, there is tracking of your searhes. Did you ever think to check your settings??

Yes. I shut off most items in my settings. I know that "cookies" acknowledge my searches with advertising. I "agreed" with them when I went browsing.

I don't use my calendar on my phone. My calendar is hanging on my wall.
My email was just that.....an email from a friend. The notification was from Siri...about a game on Wednesday..........but it isn't scheduled anywhere. It's just something that may happen.

dtennent 10-13-2020 07:15 AM

A few years ago, I took a Microsoft course to understand everything that was included with their Windows/Office package. The instructor noted that while the security software on computers has become much better and is updated regularly, cell phones are much more porous for a number of reasons. His suggestion was to never actually purchase anything through a cell phone. Getting alerts from Visa/Mastercard was okay since no actual account numbers were included. I have found that there is nothing I need so badly that can't wait until I get to my computer. With regards to tracking - If they get rid of Social Security and I get so desperate that I need to rob a bank, I will make sure to leave my phone at home. (poor attempt at humor).

greenflash245 10-13-2020 07:15 AM

yes, dump the phone.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-13-2020 07:25 AM

I suggest that to help some of the very nervous people on here from Siri reading there thoughts or listening to conversations ,wear a baseball hat with tin foil inside it

Stu from NYC 10-13-2020 07:26 AM

My car insurance company keeps asking me to keep location on so they can track my miles and driving habits.

By doing this every time we walk into a store I get a message from the store who knows I am there and often sends me survey.

As a result keep location off unless using waze.

villager@casa-aloha.net 10-13-2020 07:29 AM

After watching the documentary "Social Dilemma" on Netflix, I wanted to delete ALL the apps on my phone.

Shawn714 10-13-2020 08:05 AM

Big brother is always watching!!😳

coralway 10-13-2020 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846505)
I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.




Mmmm, yeah. Maybe you should.

justjim 10-13-2020 08:35 AM

The World Wide Web is just that The World Wide Web with its pro and cons. Back when the “Gasoline horse” first made its entry into people’s lives some still preferred the ol’ horse with four legs. Things haven’t changed much about people today. You either embrace technology or hide from it. Your choice.

billethkid 10-13-2020 08:59 AM

If it were true, then what is it about anyone of us, out of the billions and billions and billions of sources of information, be of interest to ANYBODY?

Another subject that is arm chair over intellectualized! IMHO.

Rosie1950 10-13-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1846683)
Yes. I shut off most items in my settings. I know that "cookies" acknowledge my searches with advertising. I "agreed" with them when I went browsing.

I don't use my calendar on my phone. My calendar is hanging on my wall.
My email was just that.....an email from a friend. The notification was from Siri...about a game on Wednesday..........but it isn't scheduled anywhere. It's just something that may happen.

Joe, I totally get what ur saying, several weeks ago my girlfriend and I had pedicures. While talking to my nail tech, suddenly Siri pipes up with “ that’s not very nice “. I was asking her how her week was going? Evidently u don’t have to start a question with “hey Siri “ in order to activate. Gotta say this NEVER happened before and was kind of creepy. My phone was in my purse. I have it set for Siri to only recognize my voice. Again creepy.
In the past anytime I used Siri I HAD to start with Hey Siri in order to get results.

Rlheinz19@yahoo.com 10-13-2020 09:20 AM

Watch "The Social Dilemma". The founders and key employees of some of the big social networks weigh in on some of the techniques they use to get you hooked on social media and their personal experiences.

Skip 10-13-2020 09:30 AM

Apple (for iPhones) and Google (for Androids) put an app on your phone this summer to track you.
You did NOT ask for it and you did NOT agree to it (per se).
It's NOT a stand alone application that can be deleted from your Applications folder.
Go to settings and you can find it there, called: COVID-19 Exposure.

Skip

Stu from NYC 10-13-2020 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1846696)
I suggest that to help some of the very nervous people on here from Siri reading there thoughts or listening to conversations ,wear a baseball hat with tin foil inside it

A double layer of foil makes you twice as safe

MaxCat 10-13-2020 10:09 AM

Unfortunately privacy laws have been slow to keep up with the pace of technology -- press your legislative representatives on this because they are the ones who set the laws. Sometimes, when you don't pay $s for an app, the "price" you pay for the convenience of having it is to provide some information about yourself, such as your email address. As always, it's your choice. If you don't want to give up certain pieces of information about yourself, or you are concerned that hackers will steal your information or that a business won't use the information they have on you in an ethical way then it is your choice to forgo the convenience and not use the technology. (Though in some cases you may be left in the dust by the rest of society that does choose to use it.) But it's your choice, of course!

LianneMigiano 10-13-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1846593)
Why worry?
If it makes life easier or better. Use it.
Anyone tracking me will get bored to death anyway!

GOOD ANSWER! Anyone tracking me would get bored, too!

RoadToad 10-13-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosie1950 (Post 1846794)
Joe, I totally get what ur saying, several weeks ago my girlfriend and I had pedicures. While talking to my nail tech, suddenly Siri pipes up with “ that’s not very nice “. I was asking her how her week was going? Evidently u don’t have to start a question with “hey Siri “ in order to activate. Gotta say this NEVER happened before and was kind of creepy. My phone was in my purse. I have it set for Siri to only recognize my voice. Again creepy.
In the past anytime I used Siri I HAD to start with Hey Siri in order to get results.

There are a number of phrases that will unintentionally trigger Siri, Cortana, Google, and other listening devices.
Due to waveform shape similarities, many sounds are misidentified by digital analysis.
Google it, or click here:

“Why Does iPhone & Siri Start Talking Randomly Out of Nowhere? Are Robots Taking Over?”

RuthA 10-13-2020 01:05 PM

A while back another couple and my husband and I were in our living room discussing the pros and cons of CBD oil. In a few minutes I got an add on my cell phone for CBD oil! Scary!

kathyspear 10-13-2020 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1846807)
Apple (for iPhones) and Google (for Androids) put an app on your phone this summer to track you.
You did NOT ask for it and you did NOT agree to it (per se).
It's NOT a stand alone application that can be deleted from your Applications folder.
Go to settings and you can find it there, called: COVID-19 Exposure.

Skip

By default, covid tracking is turned off an iphone. You have to manually enable it.

k.

xkeowner 10-13-2020 07:43 PM

On Android phones each app has multiple permissions which you can accept or deny. It does take a bit of effort, but I dent access for areas an app doesn't have a reason to need access to. For instance, photos and email for most apps. Location for many apps and the list goes on. If an app will not work without a permission I don't see a reason it needs access to I look for an equivalent app that is not as nosy and failing that make the decision of how much I really want that app.

GoPacers 10-14-2020 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1847017)
On Android phones each app has multiple permissions which you can accept or deny. It does take a bit of effort, but I dent access for areas an app doesn't have a reason to need access to. For instance, photos and email for most apps. Location for many apps and the list goes on. If an app will not work without a permission I don't see a reason it needs access to I look for an equivalent app that is not as nosy and failing that make the decision of how much I really want that app.

If you develop apps for the Android using any structured development environment the developer will "toggle" what permissions the app requests while in the development environment. In most cases this doesn't mean the app will actually access everything, it was just a default selection for the developer and that the user "accepts" when using the app. As noted in the referenced post, the user has the ability to disable permissions for any given app.

For most apps these "requested permissions" are not as nefarious as it may seem. Still, use good judgement and if you're not comfortable, don't install the app.

AustinKim 10-14-2020 06:08 AM

Absolutely right. Who cares? I am not that interesting.

jacksonbrown 10-14-2020 06:12 AM

Just last week, honey and I were interrupted from our romantic interlude by an insistent knocking at the front door.

Finally, I threw on some clothes, marched across the house, threw open the door and was met my two policeman.

"We received a call from Amazon, your Alexa detected someone beating their spouse." Oh my!

Marshaw 10-14-2020 10:22 AM

I think siri is your issue.


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