TV Virus numbers in The Sun
 

Can someone help me with finding the daily Florida and TV virus numbers in The Sun. It seems to have become a guessing game on what page they are today. :icon_wink:

I saw someone from Dade County last evening saying his numbers in Dade are escalating.

I’ve been using this site, you can drill down USA, Florida then view by county.
Coronavirus Update (Live): 41,128,507 Cases and 1,131,061 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

You can go to the Florida coronavirus dashboard for the latest numbers.

Guessing Game
 

First these statistics were on the front page, small but there. Then they were moved to page A5 of the front section of the paper. Today they were in the "Local Section " of the paper. In other words they are slowly being moved to reduce the ability to find them.
The key question is why? It can't be because they are going down at a rapid pace since today, there were 113 new cases. If you go to the local "Village News" you will find them as a highlight of the news. The question is why the most notable paper in the Village's is downplaying the numbers. My best guess is allegedly since the paper is indirectly controlled by the Developer/Owner of the Villages it will only report the news to protect the sale of homes vs need to know by the residents. Sad state of affairs when allegedly home sales overrules public knowledge and safety?:ohdear:

Help
 

I looked at the Website suggested by JerryP and unless I totally misunderstood it was scary. The chart indicated there were 515 new cases in the USA and it has been reported we had 113 in the Tri County area. This would mean we were about 21% of the new cases in the USA? I am hopeful I misread the chart and the numbers can't be tied to each other?:ho:

Sumter County cases
Updated Oct 21 at 8:38 AM local
Confirmed
2,771
+17
Deaths
83
+3

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Florida cases
Updated Oct 21 at 8:38 AM local
Confirmed
760,389
+3,662
Deaths
16,308
+86


There were 86 people who died yesterday in Florida from Covid 19 and three in Sumter County. Just type into your browser the words Corona Virus and the County AND State.

There are only reports from Counties. Not towns or areas.

As with al statistics, it's difficult to get an exact handle on the Villages numbers. Usually, stats are provided by county. Since The Villages lies in three different counties, it's difficult to determine exactly how many of the cases in each county are in The Villages proper.

The number of deaths on any given day don't really tell a whole lot. The people that died contracted those cases at different times. If the virus was destroyed tomorrow, there might still be Covid-19 deaths a year from now.

The only number that I'm interested in is how many new cases there are in a given time period and how may total, active cases there are in my area. Which brings up the point that we don't often see the number of cured cases. Of those 760,389 cases, how many no longer have the virus? How many of those were false positives? How may people that are living among us currently have the virus?

Very strange when you have to hunt for news that is rather important to the residents here.

It does appear that the paper does not want us to know the current statistics.

coronavirus lake county fl - Bing

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The NY Times reports the numbers which you can drill down to find the county in which you reside. However, the numbers are for the last 7 days which dampens out any one day spike in numbers. This makes comparing a county in The Villages to a county some place else more meaningful. Hope this helps.

Covid in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count - The New York Times

Here's another website that includes trend charts. Sumter numbers are heavily impacted by spikes at the prisons.

Covid Act Now

So, your suppositions are facts? 😲

All the states do not update until later in the day. You will see these numbers change throughout the day.

Not fact but rather logical conclusions, why else move it around and make the numbers hard to find?

Open to any other ideas as to why this is happening.

Actually, if you go to the Department of Health dashboard and click on "SEE STATE REPORT" about 8 or 9 pages in there are breakdowns by location based upon zip code.

Here were yesterday's numbers:

720 The VIllages/Sumter County
39 The VILlages/Lake County
5 The Villages/Marion County
351 Lady Lake/Lake County
43. Lady Lake/Sumter County

Sumter's 21% Positivity Linked To COVID-19 Cases At Coleman Prison
By JOE BYRNES - WMFE • OCT 1, 2020

BYRNES

An increase in COVID-19 cases in Sumter County is tied to newly reported data Wednesday from the federal prison complex in Coleman.

But The Villages retirement community also added 20 cases, according to the state, as it prepares to revive its social life next week.

The Villages will begin nightly concerts on the town squares and club activities in the recreation centers.

Sumter added 61 new positive tests on Tuesday and one additional death, bringing its death toll to 70. The positivity rate was 9.4% on Monday and more than 21% on Tuesday.

A Florida Department of Health spokeswoman says cases from Coleman are contributing to the spike.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons reports 257 active cases among prisoners there and 106 among staff. So far, three inmates have died.


Sumter's 21% Positivity Linked To COVID-19 Cases At Coleman Prison | Health News Florida



COVID-19 outbreak continues at prison in Bushnell as state tallies 38,828 cases | News Break

Stop relying on third-hand information for accurate information. You can get the data directly here:

Experience

That's from the people who actually collect the data, all compiled and neatly categorized. Scroll down for the "picture" of the state, and you can use your mouse's scrollbar to zoom in and out, and click on whichever county you want to know more about, or even input a specific zip code.

FDOH
ArcGIS Dashboards

Click on each county.
Takes a few days for deaths to show accurate readings

FROM NPR
Two new peer-reviewed studies are showing a sharp drop in mortality among hospitalized COVID-19 patients. The drop is seen in all groups, including older patients and those with underlying conditions, suggesting that physicians are getting better at helping patients survive their illness.

"We find that the death rate has gone down substantially," says Leora Horwitz, a doctor who studies population health at New York University's Grossman School of Medicine and an author on one of the studies, which looked at thousands of patients from March to August.

I'm more worried about the 106 employees and their possible effect on the general population.

Covid numbers in TV
 

Focus on deaths and hospitalizations not cases. Remember there are no specific numbers for just The Villages bubble.

The idea of "cured" figures is also misleading. We have no idea what long term effects these folks may suffer from. Of course I don't want people to die, but if covid damages your lungs or heart and forces serious live style changes you also a victim.

On the main Florida dashboard, you can select the tab at the bottom that says "Cases by Zip Code" and zoom in on The Villages areas. With that view, you can see sections of The Villages broken out from the rest of their counties. You can break out everything in The Villages north of 44 except for the historic section -- today, it shows there have been 811 cases in these areas (it doesn't list fatalities). You can't beak out areas south of 44 or in the historic section, and it only shows cases.

Political comment deleted.

Seems a LOT of people either don't understand, or are intentionally obfuscating, the situation. The people who are dying are dying from complications of COVID-19. That means - the virus is producing a pneumonia in their lungs that they end up dying from.

Those who get sick, and don't die, will be sick with a pneumonia, and all the POTENTIAL resulting illnesses that come with surviving pneumonia. Including permanent lung damage, heart damage, joint pain, susceptibility to other illnesses in the future, etc.

People who already had some kind of heart or lung problem, who ALSO get the COVID-19 pneumonia, will have a higher risk of death, and a higher risk of the lasting debilitating damage that results from surviving the pneumonia - if it doesn't kill them first.

The death rate, at this point, is not even all that relevant. What's more relevant now is the burden placed on society to care for all the people suffering from lung and heart damage AFTER SURVIVING Covid-19. If that doesn't take a significant hit on our economy, I don't know what will. Dead people don't cost a dime, once the funeral expenses are paid off. The ones who will need medical care for the rest of their lives and can no longer work to earn that care - they're the ones who'll cost us dearly.

So to those who care only about economy...consider that opening the state, opening the country, NOT closing it when we should have, not keeping it closed while we should have, not mandating masks, not mandating social distancing - has increased the number of sick people who will now be a burden on the tax payer.

Kind of makes me glad I'm in the "just barely above poverty" level. It means *I* won't have to pay that bill to cover the sick people in this country.

But you will.

I am not overly interested in the infection numbers, as they have been proven to be an inaccurate gauge for determining the current health risk. I am more interested in the death rate--current death rate. The infection rate is only determined by the positive test results and we have already seen how inaccurate that information is, considering all the faulty recording and false positives. If you have more testing, you have a higher infection rate. If you have less testing the rate goes down. Death rates give you an accurate assessment of how dangerous the virus is at the current time period.
The death rate has been very low in The Villages, in comparison to other areas of the country. My opinion is that the reason for this is that there are very few school aged children in the Villages, capable of infecting seniors. There are also less working adults that might be exposed to the virus on a daily basis. This is all my opinion with a sprinkling of speculation.
Infection rates can be manipulated according to the amount of testing. Death rates are a more accurate means of measure, even though a lot of deaths are attributed to the virus purely because the victims tested positive for COVID.
I feel fine, but I have no doubt that I could easily have a positive test for the virus. Most folks that have tested positive for the virus in The Villages have felt fine. When you watch as a long line forms at the testing sights daily, you can see that many folks are just looking for confirmation that they are not infected, and feel fine.
Death count is the most accurate means of determining the current extent of the virus scourge.

Actually the dashboard does break out the whole Villages area- there are only two zip codes that are villages only, 32162,32163, those numbers include south of 44. When you test positive and they collect your address and zip, you are included in the to Villages areas. You’ll see other zip codes that are for Coleman, Wildwood etc

Would think that info on what is happening with the virus would be important news and the paper would want to get the info to its subscribers.

Silly me to think otherwise.

I want to share something comforting from the numbers - I am not saying to get less careful and let you guard down but it is still good to know facts, whether bad or good.

I typed "Corona Virus United States Numbers" into my browser and got a graph embedded in the search engine showing cases. However - I noticed there was a pull down menu in the upper left corner of the graph. When I pulled it down, I saw I could change back and forth between cases and deaths. The two graphs showed so very clearly that while we are getting a large number of cases - nearly as many as at the height last April - the deaths are way down.

I hope everyone knows that our numbers are better than many European countries in terms of deaths per million and have been all along.

Doubt that. If it were true they wouldn’t report it at all. I’m glad it’s not front and center every single day. Who gets the paper and only reads the front page anyway. We all know how to turn the pages.

It's sad that Florida can't do better. They spend more time/effort hiding numbers than simply reporting facts. NY has COVID stats by Zip Code.

Nonsense, FL isn't hiding any numbers. The Florida coronavirus dashboard has cases broken down by zip code and county.

You’ll have a tough time finding any negative news—like people testing positive or dying—in The Villages Daily Fun. You’re better off looking for another news source.

That why we have the Internet. I hear all kinds of complaints about the paper but no one is forcing anyone to continue their subscription. I cancelled mine years ago. Not because I didn't like it. I just found that there was more there than I needed or wanted and it kept my recycle full every week. Waste of paper as far as I was concerned. Others use it for the puzzles, activities, happy news, classified, Obits, etc. I had nothing against the paper; just didn't need it.
Makes one wonder when you hear the same folks complaining over and over again about a paper that they continue to pay for, month after month, year after year.

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They are now listed in the FL Local News section. They used to be on the front page.

Makes you wonder about a more general macro question for America throughout History. Which is more important - the average individual's quality of life - or the power and the greed of the upper, upper class? Different societies and countries have had many variations of answers to that basic question.

Agreed, good post!