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Madelaine Amee 10-27-2020 08:15 AM

Did you receive your Insurance Bill?
 
Nasty surprise. Not unexpected I suppose considering all the major storms across the country this year, but if people are having to live on SS this has to be a major burden for them.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-27-2020 08:32 AM

I just payed my bill in September $12 more

stan the man 10-27-2020 08:34 AM

not received

Topspinmo 10-27-2020 08:50 AM

Yes, when up due to all fraud roofs replaced. Insurers are NOT going to loose money. They my pay now due to lawsuits but will receive later.

Stu from NYC 10-27-2020 09:50 AM

Waiting on ours

Dana1963 10-27-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1852955)
Nasty surprise. Not unexpected I suppose considering all the major storms across the country this year, but if people are having to live on SS this has to be a major burden for them.

Checking with Insurance Agent premium not due till 12/6 increase will be $11.00

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-27-2020 11:35 AM

My closest friend has just
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1852986)
Yes, when up due to all fraud roofs replaced. Insurers are NOT going to loose money. They my pay now due to lawsuits but will receive later.

been inspected by her insurance company and granted a new roof she is the 3rd friend of mine to get a new roof . We pay some of the lowest insurance premiums in Florida and worrying about profit loss of insurance companies makes me laugh , insurance companies are consistently investing the premiums that come in every day in hotels , new apartment buildings and whatever . The anger seems to be that some people are getting a new roof and don’t want others to get one .My mother’
used to say I don’t care what the other kids are doing , I’m just concerned about you,many villagers should take that advice AND LAWSUITS, REALLY!! REALLY!!!!

spofford 10-27-2020 01:28 PM

Golf Cart
 
Coverage with Foremost up 20%. Any suggestions??

retiredguy123 10-27-2020 05:17 PM

In my opinion, all the stories about why homeowners insurance rates go up are pure speculation. Even the agents who sell the policies have no clue about why a company will choose to raise a customer's rate by 20 or 30 percent. And, I don't think the agents have any knowledge or power to influence a company's rate. The only way to save money is to shop around for the lowest rate regularly and be willing to change companies. Also, I think that being a loyal customer will not help you. Rather, it will make you a target for premium increases. The industry calls it "price optimization", raising rates on loyal customers because they don't think they will change companies.

davem4616 10-27-2020 06:42 PM

ours basically stayed the same....

what was your nasty surprise?

If you recently moved into a home that is around a year old....yes you'll see a huge adjustment from the property being taxed as undeveloped land to developed land in the second year

Topspinmo 10-27-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1853077)
been inspected by her insurance company and granted a new roof she is the 3rd friend of mine to get a new roof . We pay some of the lowest insurance premiums in Florida and worrying about profit loss of insurance companies makes me laugh , insurance companies are consistently investing the premiums that come in every day in hotels , new apartment buildings and whatever . The anger seems to be that some people are getting a new roof and don’t want others to get one .My mother’
used to say I don’t care what the other kids are doing , I’m just concerned about you,many villagers should take that advice AND LAWSUITS, REALLY!! REALLY!!!!

So get free roof and the rest of us pay for it. :)

Pairadocs 10-27-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1852986)
Yes, when up due to all fraud roofs replaced. Insurers are NOT going to loose money. They my pay now due to lawsuits but will receive later.

Don't know how they can get much higher ! Mine tripled last year before the neighbors all laughed at me for NOT putting in a fraud roof claim with the help of the guy who came to ALL our homes, said he'd "handle it all, inspect the roof, report the damage and the dates (I could not remember any extreme storm in my neighborhood), etc. I and one other would not do it. Neighbors all laughed and said we two would STILL get our insurance raised, but would be the only ones in the neighborhood who did NOT get a new roof for it at least ! Just could not accept such a thing as went on this past summer ! Shameful I think !

Pairadocs 10-27-2020 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1853210)
So get free roof and the rest of us pay for it. :)


That is EXACTLY what my agent (at a VERY popular agency in The Villages) said ! Exactly that. Everyone gets a new roof, but YOU. He said it's everywhere in Florida that is done. To avoid law suits that "could" award what he called "unlimited" court costs, so the companies just roll over to the fake claims, much cheaper. He told me for the roofer, a roof can cost as low a 3K on some houses, much cheaper than court battles.

Rwirish 10-28-2020 04:57 AM

Hardly went up at all.

Fredster 10-28-2020 05:11 AM

My home insurance premium is due early next year and I will be surprised if it isn’t substantially higher, since I’ve heard that so many people have had their 18-20 year old roofs replaced for either no cost or a small deductible!

Girlcopper 10-28-2020 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1852955)
Nasty surprise. Not unexpected I suppose considering all the major storms across the country this year, but if people are having to live on SS this has to be a major burden for them.

Few dollar increase. No big deal. And hopefully most people have a nest egg besides SS after working their entire life

KRM0614 10-28-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by spofford (Post 1853104)
Coverage with Foremost up 20%. Any suggestions??

Try progressive direct they own ASI
I have a home not a Villa and lay $460- and also can set the contents coverage

Don’t buy insurance from the villages they mark it up 100%

Bass56 10-28-2020 06:43 AM

Received my renewal for my home insurance policy. Went up 300.00 for the next year. Shopped around and got the same coverage from progressive for 400.00 less. Shop around.

christine J Toft 10-28-2020 07:23 AM

Having watched the majority of homes on my mother's street get new roofs as "storm damage" (also known as fraud) I understand why. She paid for her own. As she should have. These roofs were almost 25 years old. Everyone is affected by this with insurance increases. This is happening all over The Villages. I blame the home owners as much as the roofing companies.

Raceone 10-28-2020 07:43 AM

I just paid my renewal in October. I shopped for like coverage & found that
Lower premium equals lower coverage. Increase $430!

Dana1963 10-28-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KRM0614 (Post 1853306)
Try progressive direct they own ASI
I have a home not a Villa and lay $460- and also can set the contents coverage

Don’t buy insurance from the villages they mark it up 100%

We experienced the same with The Villages Insurance. The answer we received when questioning rates was ”that's the way it is”. We were changing policy like for like from another agency same insurance provider.

wiltma 10-28-2020 08:27 AM

Insurance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1852955)
Nasty surprise. Not unexpected I suppose considering all the major storms across the country this year, but if people are having to live on SS this has to be a major burden for them.

Down $20 and I got a new roof

wiltma 10-28-2020 08:33 AM

Insurance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1853171)
In my opinion, all the stories about why homeowners insurance rates go up are pure speculation. Even the agents who sell the policies have no clue about why a company will choose to raise a customer's rate by 20 or 30 percent. And, I don't think the agents have any knowledge or power to influence a company's rate. The only way to save money is to shop around for the lowest rate regularly and be willing to change companies. Also, I think that being a loyal customer will not help you. Rather, it will make you a target for premium increases. The industry calls it "price optimization", raising rates on loyal customers because they don't think they will change companies.

I disagree. I’ve been with First Floridian Travelers for 17 years here and Travelers for 20 years in Connecticut and rates rarely raised. Just got a new roof and premium went down $20. And don’t forget it is not only the amount you pay but the service you get. Doesn’t do any good to pay less but have to struggle over getting a claim paid.

vitacr 10-28-2020 08:49 AM

It pays to shop - ours jumped 25% - changed companies & cut the premium in HALF.

worahm 10-28-2020 09:19 AM

My 2020 house insurance bill was $2340.00. Just received the 2021 policy and the annual premium doubled, $4695.00. I contacted the broker and was told that all home policies will drastically increase due to the number of huracanes and new rules concerning replacing roofs. Needless to say St. Johns insurance company will not be insuring my house next year. Oh, By the way, in the 23 years i have lived here, I have never made a claim on my house insurance.

rugbyjohn 10-28-2020 09:23 AM

Just got our insurance bill for next year. It was for American Integrity through the Villages Insurance and went from $1450 to $2700. REALLY! Went back to Villages Ins. through an insurance rep. recommended to me. He shopped it for me and got me better coverage for a little less than what I paid last year. I did a little shopping on my own and could not get the sink hole coverage I currently have. (New policy has it). The Villages Insurance rep I dealt with told me that they are getting slammed by huge increases to policies written by American Integrity. Either American Integrity is attempting to get out of insuring in this area or they have been hammered by payouts due to gulf coast hurricanes or they have suffered thru the current roof scam going on in the Villages. If you have American Integrity pay close attention.

CFrance 10-28-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spofford (Post 1853104)
Coverage with Foremost up 20%. Any suggestions??

After a $30 increase last year, we got our AIG bill last week--went from $735 to $1350. Needless to say we shopped around and got insurance with Farmers for $800 for the exact same coverage. When the woman at The Villages insurance office asked why we were dropping AIG, my husband said, "Never in my entire life have I received a rate increase of that magnitude." She said we weren't the only ones dropping them. She also said all the new roofs were the probglem.



They for sure aren't going to use a rate increase on us to pay for others' new roofs.

cassjax2 10-28-2020 09:55 AM

Did you have your roof inspected? If so, that may have something to do with increase. Everyone I know in our neighborhood who had roof inspections also had increased in insurance.

CFrance 10-28-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cassjax2 (Post 1853442)
Did you have your roof inspected? If so, that may have something to do with increase. Everyone I know in our neighborhood who had roof inspections also had increased in insurance.

If you're speaking to me, we never had our roof inspected. In fact, sent the person ringing our doorbell away.

Byte1 10-28-2020 10:00 AM

Yep, mine went up about 30%

Curtisbwp 10-28-2020 10:05 AM

Storms are a yearly occurance and are budgeted for accordinly. However antifa, blm and riots are not. Billions and billions of $ in looting, burning and destruction of property are not. I expect much higher insurance bills. And if, as promised, out taxes will also go up.

mrf6969 10-28-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wiltma (Post 1853379)
I disagree. I’ve been with First Floridian Travelers for 17 years here and Travelers for 20 years in Connecticut and rates rarely raised. Just got a new roof and premium went down $20. And don’t forget it is not only the amount you pay but the service you get. Doesn’t do any good to pay less but have to struggle over getting a claim paid.

We have had Travelers here for 15 years. Our annul rate just went up 17% for our Homeowners. $940 to $1120. We did get a new roof.

bilcon 10-28-2020 10:45 AM

I have American Integrity and just received my new invoice. It went up over $700 a year with no claims ever. What the Hell? I called several other insurance co. , including Progressive, and they are not writing new policies, or they want your auto insurance. I am not changing auto ins. companies. I called AAA, since I have been a member for years. They asked me about bundling my auto, which I did not want, and they never called me back with a quote. Any advice?

Melmab 10-28-2020 12:35 PM

I about fainted when I opened my bill! Last year I paid $1136.00. This year my bill is $2162.00! And no, I didn’t get a new roof. Needless to say I changed companies and got the same rate as last year.

Topspinmo 10-28-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1853234)
Don't know how they can get much higher ! Mine tripled last year before the neighbors all laughed at me for NOT putting in a fraud roof claim with the help of the guy who came to ALL our homes, said he'd "handle it all, inspect the roof, report the damage and the dates (I could not remember any extreme storm in my neighborhood), etc. I and one other would not do it. Neighbors all laughed and said we two would STILL get our insurance raised, but would be the only ones in the neighborhood who did NOT get a new roof for it at least ! Just could not accept such a thing as went on this past summer ! Shameful I think !

We had pea size (peas size hail little bigger than BB.) hail about half mile away and all sudden two years after the hurricane came through majority of roofs now have damage. When roofing inspectors says we have lawyer just sign here and you will get new roof or they say those shingle are no longer made you can get new roof. something smells?

Topspinmo 10-28-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1853171)
In my opinion, all the stories about why homeowners insurance rates go up are pure speculation. Even the agents who sell the policies have no clue about why a company will choose to raise a customer's rate by 20 or 30 percent. And, I don't think the agents have any knowledge or power to influence a company's rate. The only way to save money is to shop around for the lowest rate regularly and be willing to change companies. Also, I think that being a loyal customer will not help you. Rather, it will make you a target for premium increases. The industry calls it "price optimization", raising rates on loyal customers because they don't think they will change companies.

I can speculate? Hundreds get new roof, thousands get billed with rate height.

condomom22 10-28-2020 01:11 PM

My first annual, September renewal was 36% higher with no claims filed. I was told by my insurance agent that most of my increase was due to all the new roofs that were done in the last 1-2 yrs. In essence, we all pay for others' new roofs when it is done through their homeowners insurance.

CFrance 10-28-2020 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1853470)
I have American Integrity and just received my new invoice. It went up over $700 a year with no claims ever. What the Hell? I called several other insurance co. , including Progressive, and they are not writing new policies, or they want your auto insurance. I am not changing auto ins. companies. I called AAA, since I have been a member for years. They asked me about bundling my auto, which I did not want, and they never called me back with a quote. Any advice?

Try Farmers. There's an office in Clermont. They quoted us for just homeowners. But we actually asked about bundling and saved 10% on each policy, homeowners and auto. Our $800 homeowners would have been $880 without the bundling. A lot less than the $1350 AIG wanted. Our auto (was with Allstate) ended up being cheaper than Allstate.

Bum-ba-dum-bum bum-bum-bum!

retiredguy123 10-28-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1853543)
I can speculate? Hundreds get new roof, thousands get billed with rate height.

You may be correct. But, if were in charge of an insurance company, I would deny roof damage claims, unless there was convincing evidence that the damage was caused by a weather event. I certainly wouldn't be bullied by a roofing company or their lawyers. I asked my agent about this roof situation, and they said that they always have their own adjuster inspect the roof and approve the claims, regardless of what the roofer says. But, who knows?

Dana1963 10-28-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by condomom22 (Post 1853554)
My first annual, September renewal was 36% higher with no claims filed. I was told by my insurance agent that most of my increase was due to all the new roofs that were done in the last 1-2 yrs. In essence, we all pay for others' new roofs when it is done through their homeowners insurance.

Your Agents doesn't hold any water with previous comments and mine.


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