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Trayderjoe 11-13-2020 09:36 PM
Proof that ELS live in The Villages
 
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Walking my dog this evening, I stumbled upon proof that ELS (Entitled Lazy Slobs) live here despite what some might think....

dnobles 11-13-2020 09:48 PM
I saw two mask just today on the ground

kcrazorbackfan 11-13-2020 10:27 PM
They’re everywhere north to south; I go across the Chitty Chatty Bridge about everyday and some filthy ass pigs are throwing out litter on the bridge.

It’s starting to show up exponentially since the return of the ‘birds.

Becca9800 11-13-2020 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1860617)
They’re everywhere north to south; I go across the Chitty Chatty Bridge about everyday and some filthy ass pigs are throwing out litter on the bridge.

It’s starting to show up exponentially since the return of the ‘birds.
You're going to blame this on "the birds"? The Birds who subsidize your daily existence? Those birds?

8notes 11-14-2020 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1860620)
You're going to blame this on "the birds"? The Birds who subsidize your daily existence? Those birds?
When we had recycling, there were some residents who took their junk mail home with them to recycle it. Of course the lazy ones didn't but that's another story. Now that the Villages is no longer recycling, people are dumping their junk mail at the post office. Clearly there is going to be a problem. We either need additional garbage receptacles, or they need to do more garbage pickups.

stan the man 11-14-2020 07:14 AM
you moved to the villages...only difference between trailer park and TV is ........

hampton 11-14-2020 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Trayderjoe (Post 1860607)
Walking my dog this evening, I stumbled upon proof that ELS (Entitled Lazy Slobs) live here despite what some might think....
Talking about ELS, while walking with my wife in the grassy area near the dog park, I saw three greenish colored bags filled with dog waste.

retiredguy123 11-14-2020 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 8notes (Post 1860652)
When we had recycling, there were some residents who took their junk mail home with them to recycle it. Of course the lazy ones didn't but that's another story. Now that the Villages is no longer recycling, people are dumping their junk mail at the post office. Clearly there is going to be a problem. We either need additional garbage receptacles, or they need to do more garbage pickups.
Maintaining trash cans at the postal stations seems like a ridiculous waste of money. My postal station has 5 trash cans. If I can't put junk mail in them, will someone please tell me what I can put in them?

Neils 11-14-2020 07:46 AM
Lets take a step back and consider the source,
Who said it is ok for “them” to throw their useless phonebooks into my property?
And I suspect that I am somehow being charged for them too.

Neils 11-14-2020 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 8notes (Post 1860652)
When we had recycling, there were some residents who took their junk mail home with them to recycle it. Of course the lazy ones didn't but that's another story. Now that the Villages is no longer recycling, people are dumping their junk mail at the post office. Clearly there is going to be a problem. We either need additional garbage receptacles, or they need to do more garbage pickups.
If the Post Office charged 1st class rates for ALL mail, the amount of junk mail and wasted resources would decrease dramatically. And the billions $ that taxpayers subsidize the USPS each year might not be required.

davem4616 11-14-2020 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1860716)
Lets take a step back and consider the source,
Who said it is ok for “them” to throw their useless phonebooks into my property?
And I suspect that I am somehow being charged for them too.

I see zero value in having a printed phone book...

as I tossed the one delivered overnight into the trash this morning I wondered how I might avoid receiving updated books 6 months from now, yet still get the paper

retiredguy123 11-14-2020 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1860729)
I see zero value in having a printed phone book...

as I tossed the one delivered overnight into the trash this morning I wondered how I might avoid receiving updated books 6 months from now, yet still get the paper
The newspaper has nothing to do with getting a phone book. Everyone gets it. And, I don't think there is any way to stop the phone book from coming.

Two Bills 11-14-2020 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1860723)
If the Post Office charged 1st class rates for ALL mail, the amount of junk mail and wasted resources would decrease dramatically. And the billions $ that taxpayers subsidize the USPS each year might not be required.
Without the junk, there would probably be no postal service.
It is the junk that just about keeps the service viable.

Stu from NYC 11-14-2020 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1860764)
The newspaper has nothing to do with getting a phone book. Everyone gets it. And, I don't think there is any way to stop the phone book from coming.
Do not see how you can opt out of getting phone book, bad enough to get one but think we have now gotten 3. Why would anyone want so many?

Episode on Seinfeld that I believe Kramer wanted to opt out of getting mail. Cant be done either.

Bill14564 11-14-2020 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1860729)
I see zero value in having a printed phone book...

as I tossed the one delivered overnight into the trash this morning I wondered how I might avoid receiving updated books 6 months from now, yet still get the paper
I'm new here: Is there an online version of the phone book? Yes, I know I can find most of the same information but there is some value in the layout of the existing book.

The conditions in the photo are inexcusable. I wouldn't treat my property or my neighbor's that way so why would I treat the mail station that way? Yes, I will deposit junk mail in the nearest receptacle which ideally would be before I get into my car but there is no excuse for what is shown in the photo.

I wonder why tossing books and papers on my driveway isn't considered littering. Can I take my unwanted books and papers and simply toss them on someone else's property? Sure, they didn't ask for my trash but I didn't ask for the phone book either. Maybe the trash guys will pick up the book if I don't?

vintageogauge 11-14-2020 09:04 AM
My guess is that whomever it is that empties those cans missed a day or two. Still no excuse for dumping everything around them, take them home and then dispose.

vintageogauge 11-14-2020 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1860688)
you moved to the villages...only difference between trailer park and TV is ........
I can tell you about The Villages but you seem to have experience with trailer parks so why not let us know how you live over there.

RedChariot 11-14-2020 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1860688)
you moved to the villages...only difference between trailer park and TV is ........
Unfortunately this is what it has become. Sad. Was not always like that. What happened here??? Why did this all change?? The people are different??

Mortal1 11-14-2020 09:07 AM
Just because some people...
 
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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1860620)
You're going to blame this on "the birds"? The Birds who subsidize your daily existence? Those birds?
only stay part of the year(birds)and still have to pay their fair share doesn't give them any extra perks...like littering.

An attitude that is typically held by elitists.

jdulej 11-14-2020 10:47 AM
You might want to hang on to those phone books. If we have another run on TP they could come in handy (if a bit painful).

New Englander 11-14-2020 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1860688)
you moved to the villages...only difference between trailer park and tv is ........
Is what?

graciegirl 11-14-2020 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 1860792)
Unfortunately this is what it has become. Sad. Was not always like that. What happened here??? Why did this all change?? The people are different??
There is nothing here but a picture of someone who offloaded his/her trash. It certainly is NOT typical of the behavior of the residents of The Villages. I have NEVER seen anything like that at our mail drop.

There are those with an "agenda" to paint this lovely place in ugliness. Either they want to discourage people from moving here, or they want to change the very well working CDD form of government or they just see the glass as half full.

I see this day as one full of hope and promise. Very soon we will be able to be vaccinated against Covid-19 and have it be 90% effective. We will be comfortably able to be with people we enjoy again and to do group activities again.

BE HAPPY. Good times are coming!!!

But be very careful about spending. The good economy we had at the beginning of this year will be etched away by other reasons other than Covid.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2020 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1860785)
I'm new here: Is there an online version of the phone book? Yes, I know I can find most of the same information but there is some value in the layout of the existing book.

The conditions in the photo are inexcusable. I wouldn't treat my property or my neighbor's that way so why would I treat the mail station that way? Yes, I will deposit junk mail in the nearest receptacle which ideally would be before I get into my car but there is no excuse for what is shown in the photo.

I wonder why tossing books and papers on my driveway isn't considered littering. Can I take my unwanted books and papers and simply toss them on someone else's property? Sure, they didn't ask for my trash but I didn't ask for the phone book either. Maybe the trash guys will pick up the book if I don't?
Why?
Just take it home and throw it in your trash....

Trayderjoe 11-14-2020 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1860790)
My guess is that whomever it is that empties those cans missed a day or two. Still no excuse for dumping everything around them, take them home and then dispose.
Sorry to say this was not a buildup over a day or two. I pass by this postal station 2-3 times per day. The mess was created the day of the photo. The predominant piece of discarded mail was from a roofing company I too received that day. Apparently once the trash cans were full, the slobs decided to continue to pile their trash at the postal station hence my term ELS. No pride in where they live, we were fortunate that it wasn’t too windy out or the stuff could have blown all over.

The ELS treat the postal station and parking lot like it is their dumping ground. The same postal station/pool area parking lot was used after the hurricane a couple of seasons ago as a dumping ground for their yard waste bags.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2020 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trayderjoe (Post 1860607)
Walking my dog this evening, I stumbled upon proof that ELS (Entitled Lazy Slobs) live here despite what some might think....
What village?

coffeebean 11-14-2020 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Trayderjoe (Post 1860607)
Walking my dog this evening, I stumbled upon proof that ELS (Entitled Lazy Slobs) live here despite what some might think....
The green color looks just like the Mallory Square mail center. Is that where the OPs photo was taken?

graciegirl 11-14-2020 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1860891)
What village?
I wonder too. Where was this picture taken???

Our house sits so that we are right across from the mail drop and we see a black pickup truck come to get the trash. Not every day...but regularly. We have a very small Village, granted, but throwing trash in the trash or next to it when it is full is what people do. Thankfully the pick-up-trash person carefully picks up the overage.

This is just another mountain out of molehill to me.

Bill14564 11-14-2020 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1860874)
Why?
Just take it home and throw it in your trash....
The same reason I don't take trash out of Scooples, 5 Guys, or Panera to throw in my trash or why I don't take trash from the squares home to throw in the trash: receptacles are provided for the trash, I have trash, I use the receptacles.

I would love to be able to retrieve my mail without having to sort through the junk. However, the Post Office finds it beneficial to put junk mail in my box. I find it beneficial to leave that junk in the trash cans.

bilcon 11-14-2020 01:01 PM
Sometime take a close look at some of the ponds on the golf courses. On Mallory Caroline, along hole 1 and 9 you will probably spot several of those little blue doggie bags carried by our thoughtful dog lovers (I do love dogs) who dump their poop bags into the drains. Guess where they end up? I have seen golf course workers having to drag the bags out of the ponds.
Always remember: Feed the can man. Slam dunk the junk.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-14-2020 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trayderjoe (Post 1860607)
Walking my dog this evening, I stumbled upon proof that ELS (Entitled Lazy Slobs) live here despite what some might think....
Perhaps the post office should be providing larger containers so that we can toss 90% of what is in their boxes.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2020 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1860900)
The same reason I don't take trash out of Scooples, 5 Guys, or Panera to throw in my trash or why I don't take trash from the squares home to throw in the trash: receptacles are provided for the trash, I have trash, I use the receptacles.

I would love to be able to retrieve my mail without having to sort through the junk. However, the Post Office finds it beneficial to put junk mail in my box. I find it beneficial to leave that junk in the trash cans.
Apples and oranges.

JoMar 11-14-2020 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1860729)
I see zero value in having a printed phone book...

as I tossed the one delivered overnight into the trash this morning I wondered how I might avoid receiving updated books 6 months from now, yet still get the paper
Others see great value in the phone book....but glad you are putting yours in the trash, more heat for the power company.

Bill14564 11-14-2020 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1860938)
Apples and oranges.
Carrots and kumquats??

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-14-2020 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1860944)
Others see great value in the phone book....but glad you are putting yours in the trash, more heat for the power company.
So why don't the people that print the phone books allow those that want them to order them. That way they would save a lot of paper, ink and trees.

The phone book companies make their money from the advertising in the Yellow Pages. In order to maintain or increase revenues from that source they have to tell their customers that the phone book will go out to every house in the community. The problem, and advertisers are beginning recognize this, is that 80% of the phone books are thrown directly into the trash.

Send out a notice with a post paid card asking people if they want it. They can then print the number of copies that people actually want.

retiredguy123 11-14-2020 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1860989)
I taught a college course for fifteen years. It is my opinion that at least half of my students should never have been accepted to college. Today's collages are all about making money and have instituted a campaign to convince all parents that all kids need to go to college. That is why so many of them are living at home with their parents. Many also have chosen to major in subjects where jobs are few and don't pay very much.

Many of those kids would have been better off going to a trade school or serving and apprenticeship.

Raising the minimum wage really only benefits the government. It will first of all increase prices on everything. If you're making minimum wage and get a 5% increase, prices will go up accordingly. And of course, you won't get that 5% because the government takes its share. But you will have to pay the full increase in the price of everything.

In addition, increasing the minimum wage will create higher unemployment as many companies, especially small businesses will not be able to hire as many people. As they raise prices they will not sell as much product or services because fewer people will be able to afford them. Also, the taxes that they pay on payroll and profit will go up.

Minimum wage is an idea to fool voters into voting for politicians. It doesn't help anyone.
I agree. But, I would just point out that, as a Federal Government employee, I worked with many people who also should have never been accepted into college. But, they got a college degree and a Government job. They were set for life, had job security, health benefits, retirement, and made way more money, with less effort, than they ever would have made by going to a trade school. It may not be right, but the Government is getting bigger and bigger all the time. A college degree and a Government job can be a passport to financial security.

Nucky 11-14-2020 04:18 PM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Newman!

Becca9800 11-14-2020 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1860794)
only stay part of the year(birds)and still have to pay their fair share doesn't give them any extra perks...like littering.

An attitude that is typically held by elitists.
Hold your insults, totally unwarranted. And offensive in case you might not be able to digest that. Bet you wouldn't speak as freely if your identity was known. They call those kind "keyboard warriors". No one, ESPECIALLY ME, said snowbirds were entitled to anything. I object strenuously to being shat upon by the full-timer simply because I still work and can't be in TV as much as I would prefer. Do you think, as a part-timer, my investment in TV is any less significant than the full-timers? But to place blame on "the birds" for being the ones bringing litter to TV, wo any evidence, is laughable. And responses like yours make me question my decision to invest in TV.

kcrazorbackfan 11-14-2020 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1860620)
You're going to blame this on "the birds"? The Birds who subsidize your daily existence? Those birds?
It might subsidize your daily existence; my retirement subsidizes my daily existence.

Nevermore 11-14-2020 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1860688)
you moved to the villages...only difference between trailer park and TV is ........
The trailer park folks are better tippers.

noslices1 11-15-2020 05:56 AM
Junk mail
 
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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1860723)
If the Post Office charged 1st class rates for ALL mail, the amount of junk mail and wasted resources would decrease dramatically. And the billions $ that taxpayers subsidize the USPS each year might not be required.
Without junk mail, the post office would go out of business and if they charged first class for junk mail, there would be no junk mail.


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