What are they thinking?
 

So, entertainment at the town squares were closed when the pandemic was under much better control than it currently is. Fast forward, the pandemic numbers have never been worse, and a massive influx of potential Covid spreaders are migrating south. Then the seasonal influx of high risk children and grandchildren visitors will follow. People from all over the country will be flying to Florida and converging on the 55 plus community that has been relatively safe during the slow season, where the older and more vulnerable full time residents generally take appropriate precautions. Despite this, starting next week the town squares will go back to business as usual, like the pandemic doesn’t even exist, WTF?

Could there possibly be a worse time to decide to open everything back up? I get that the powers that be need to sell all the houses they are cranking out, and it’s hard to sell houses without being able to showcase the Villages experience. But this could backfire in a big way if the Villages Covid numbers spike, which they most likely will. Not only that, but all the new houses they are trying to sell will have to compete with all the new pre-owned homes that will go on the market vacated by unfortunate Covid victims.

OK, all the Covid deniers, let me have it, I can deal with it.

Bobby Pickett "Monster Mash" - YouTube

I hope we do not all turn up in the cemetery or doing the monster mash! All dressed up as mummies that is or acting like zombies.

The Sumter County Commission, which is no longer in the Developer's pocket, needs to act to put an end to this insanity. People are going to die.

I totally agree with you.

Since the start of this pandemic my response to people going back to normal life has been “what’s changed?”

I am high risk and cannot resume my previous way of life.
I understand many are NOT high risk and their response may be quite different.

One thing we can all agree with is everyone would like life back to normal.

The Florida strategy appears to be herd immunity. A White House official said a couple of weeks ago “we can’t control the virus” and Florida powers-that-be might feel the same way. Just my take.

Barking at the moon
 

no one should let you" have it".
Your points are valid. However , there is an instruction given to fighters in the ring. " gentleman, protect yourselves at all times"
pretty good advice.
Rely upon your own instincts for self preservation.
Good luck to all.

I would be very surprised if you are able to get a vaccine in December, just saying.

Why Covid deniers? You stay home and cower in your house. I’ll go out, be careful and enjoy the The life I worked 50 years to have.

It is not the responsibility of The Villages to protect you. if you feel unsafe going to the squares, don't go.
You must take personal responsibility to protect yourself as you see fit.

I believe the context was “won’t” control the virus, although your quote above is accurate.

Can the TOTV just have a CCP aka Covid ban like politics? This is just beyond ridiculous...we have been on this hamster wheel of discussion for months now and it’s NEVER going to change...are people’s lives so boring that this is the only thought or discussion they can fixate on? Yesterday we had a nut job talking about shooting people who walked to close to him on a thread, I found this just unbelievable that his posts were not removed...yet I’ve had some pretty benign comments removed on this forum...the censorship here needs to take a look at their guidelines and find some consistency....

I too agree that December vaccinations is very optimistic. Hoping the vaccine is approved very soon though. My best!

They want everything to look normal so that snowbirds will come back and purchase new property which they have stock piled.
There is no concern about the population already here.

Very unfortunate

Easy fix. Stay home.

Unfortunately people have lost interest in mitigating the pandemic at this point. Then there are the outright deniers as you mention. It’s now every man for himself. Good luck. We’re Doomed!

I agree with your comment , those with their hair on fire about Covid should do everything possible to protect themselves. I am in good health, thank God and am going to enjoy life.

Easy fix. Stay home. Stop whining.

As Nancy Reagan used to say: “Just Say No!” Look for me at the town squares. You won’t find me.

Treatments and mortality
 

Why open the town squares ?
The treatments are more effective and the mortality rate is down from those who contracted it. As Americans we have civil liberties that allow us to make decisions on risk and reward. If you are at risk stay home and don’t infringe on others who have very low risk.

Because when you are done drinking and dancing you go to Publix, the dr’s office, or the gas station where you run into people who have been “cowering in their homes” because of compromised health issues or age but still need food, gas and to get to the drs office. That’s why.

In total agreement. Thanks for posting.

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The treatments are better and the mortality rate from those who contract it are down. For those who are more at risk stay at home and don’t infringe on the civil liberties of others who have a lower risk.

You can stay home if your afraid or you can chose to live life. The China Virus is serious . It is not seasonal. There are now treatments for it and a vaccine or 2 are on the way. With tickets to square there were more people outside surrounding squares then inside them! I chose life standing rather then sitting in fear. Yes I’m sure it is economically related but I don’t care what the motivation is. I’m just pleased they are opening .

Well said. If you do not look out for yourself don"t make it the responsibility of others
Be Safe but don't become a hermit.

My take is everyone is in control of their self. If one doesn’t think going to the square at this time is good for them. Don’t go. Stay home get things brought to you. We know what is best for ourselves.

Totally agree! No brains in this decision. We’ll stay away, thank you. We can’t trust where all have been, if they’ll follow CDC guidelines and where masks. Stupid, stupid, stupid....

Thank you for caring about others and their situation. What a guy! (Person) NOT!

:bigbow: Amen. Unfortunately the selfish and entitled won't understand this.

Think about all the social security they won’t have to pay. Money saving, sad.

Staying home
 

It is possible to entirely stay home if that is your choice. There is grocery delivery, there is delivery from the drug store (door dash) and there is telemedicine. If you need to go to your doctor's office, no one is allowed in without a temperature check, a mask and social distancing, so you are not going to catch it there. Why not let those small businesses survive?

Deaths of despair (suicide, drugs) are way up. Deaths of people not getting cancer checks are going to go way up. Deaths of people so afraid of Covid they have strokes and heart attacks and call no one are up. In New York, when the lockdown was strict, 63% of those catching the disease had been locked down. In other words, the fact that there are essential workers already means the disease can spread in the community to anyone going out at all, or letting someone in their home who goes out.

Epidemiologists before this year always said "lockdowns do not work" - exception: 100 percent lockdown early in the disease, but we can't do that. You can look up this fact on the WHO site. Epidemiologists had no evidence that lockdowns were suddenly going to work, they just used them to slow the spread, stopping hospitals from being overwhelmed. In spite of scary headlines that our hospitals have more in them that they did before, only one-third of those are in hospital for Covid and no hospital yet has been unable to accept patients.

- - In some degree it seems to be a function of where you get your news, sensationalism creates ratings - why not change the channel to different news or read some facts from the internet?

Those who doubt we will get a vaccine in December - Do you know non-political doctors say that is when it will happen? Again, your news channel gets ratings by scaring you. A large majority of Americans believe "the news" is often untruthful. Please cheer up. Stay home with only no-contact delivery if you decide to, but please cheer up at least about the vaccine.

Oh, and read the Great Barrington Declaration (find it through a search engine) - signed by tens of thousands of medical professionals including epidemiologists and public health officials.

Get the virus...survive..ok! What are the long term effects from this virus? NO ONE KNOWS YET! That’s where my brain is. Whether you are low or high risk.......if you get it and survive, what will your health be like in 10-20 or even 5-10 years. Frankly, I don’t want to think about that. Not fearful, just being smart, cautious and RESPECTFUL of others who may not be in my situation!

Absolutely.

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Not a COVID denier - rather a COVID realist. We all need to be exposed for herd immunity to take effect. Be a patriot and take off your mask. Shakes hands with a stranger. Go to the town square events and mingle mingle mingle. We need to see 1,000,000 ... 2,000,000 ... 5,000,000 new cases (positivity tests - not deaths) every day. Lets "git'er done".

This is NOT sarcasm.

As you too must take personal responsibility to not infect others.

Recovery rate is 99+%. You got the same chances of getting pregnant with a condom. I think I'll take my chances and begin living life again. If course I'll wear mask if I cant distance myself.

Nonsense. This assumes you know that you are contagious. The alternative is that we assume everyone is contagious (which is what most are doing now). And that's just ridiculous. I'm not responsible for making sure others don't catch the virus. Put on YOUR mask. Wash YOUR hands. Cower in YOUR house. Then, you don't have to worry about what everyone else is doing.

As if this isn't extreme absurdity already - can we just BAN all cars / planes/ lawnmowers to protect asthmatics from dying from pollution? Why aren't you worried about that?

"And you too must take personal responsibility for not putting any pollution in the air which will cause a child with asthma to die. Do it for the children."

It involves the same logic (but not the same agenda)

Fun to watch you be manipulated by the crazy media. Run rats run!

Yes, those of us with preexisting conditions do stay home. But we still need to go out to the pharmacy, groceries and doctor offices, where we run the risk of exposure from those who just don’t care to take precautions.