Monarch Grove
 

Just saw a picture in the ************* of how close the houses in Monarch Grove are to the Turnpike. Why would anyone in their right mind buy a house so close to the Turnpike and then complain about the noise? They should sell their house and move into a memory care facility!

yeah, it's hard to imagine someone buying near a major roadway would expect quiet.

Probably got a good deal because of the road. Let the buyer beware.

Got a good price and thought they could live with the noise.

Surprise.

I'm having a hard time believing that picture from the hyphen news site of the tanker truck close to the house is really the turnpike. Granted, the truck appears very close to the house. I looked at Google maps, and Hickey Way where alot of the complaints come from, the turnpike is close, but not as close as hyphen news wants us to believe.

Not like the Turnpike was built after the house. Now they want everyone to pay for their wall? Which would then raise their property value?

Only a small part of Monarch Grove is that near to the turnpike and the buyers knew it when they purchased the homes, most evidently don't mind the noise and got very good deals on their homes. We had a similar situation in Ohio where a development was built along the pike and the homes all sold and continue to sell as re-sales.

They knew the turnpike was right there with traffic noise 24/7 and they bought anyway. They have to live with it.

You bought it, you got it!
 

Caveat emptor! I just bought a new build in Bradford and immediately ruled out Monarch Grove due to the proximity of the highway and the high voltage power lines & towers (which were "Photo-shopped" out of some photos). I didn't even need to physically go there, just looking at the map was enough.

Do NOT expect the developer or the neighbors to pay for a sound barrier because the buyer didn't do his due diligence!

We live in Osceola Hills and we like to drive through the new Southern areas to see what is happening.

Yesterday we drove thru Hawkins and saw the massive amount of earth moving being done to build the new golf course. We noticed they are building large earthen berms between the golf course and the Turnpike, maybe to keep golf balls from flying onto the Turnpike and also to make it a little quieter for the golfers.

Would it be reasonable to build some berms between Monarch Grove and the Turnpike?

In general, I don't believe in bailing out people who make bad decisions. However, in this case, there are a few things to consider. It's usually in the developer's best interest to make the residents happy, it's good PR and in the long run might help sell more houses. Better to have happy residents bragging about what TV did for their noise problem than having them run and complain to the Orlando newspaper and television stations, who are not very sympathetic to TV to start with. Furthermore, the developer had to be very aware of the (potential) noise problem and sold the homes anyway. The best time for noise abatement would have been when building. Did these home sell at a "discount" because of noise? I don't know, but if they did I'm less sympathetic to the homeowners, who were in that case essentially paid to live with traffic noise.

We are in Monarch Grove, but not the homes in question on Hickey Way. We do hear the highway but after a year it is just white background noise to us. Several of these folks scoped out and bought their new homes during the original lock-down for the China Flu. The turnpike was almost dead quiet. You could walk back and forth across the turnpike before one or two trucks would drive by. These folks did not get the full impact of just how noisy that highway really can be. I believe the person who started that noise abatement petition does not even live in these particular homes. The couple of folks I do know who live in these homes got them at a discount and are actually happy there.

Where are there high voltage towers in Monarch Grove. To the best of my recollection, and I could be wrong, they are in Chitty Chatty, Marsh Bend, and DeLuna.

At one time many years ago as a kid we lived within 30 yards of a busy train track. After a month we didn't hear the trains anymore. Some people may never adjust to the noise from the turnpike but they knew it was there when they bought.

Didn't that all go out the window with the Hacienda Hills fiasco?

Better for them not to compound the problem

I find it amazing the amount of people giving their opinion about people in Monarch Grove making a horrible decision to live there. Many of the same people who think buying below 44 is like going to no-mans land .. or putting themselves at risk being close to coleman prison .. blah blah. Actually, the great majority of folks that actually live there LOVE IT. I owned in Buttonwood and liked it a lot. But I LOVE Monarch Grove. the people, the house, the location. So, for those looking to buy below 44, PLEASE make sure you consider the source of opinions.. as the majority of negative ones are from folks that frankly don;t know what they are talking about. Monarch Grove, as a resident, has great people, and is an active community with largely very happy people.h

I'm sure that's true. I think many of the comments are directed at the minority who are complaining about the noise from the turnpike and feel the developer should do something about it, at no cost to them, just the rest of us.

People want to live south of route 44 is their business.

When they than complain about their location when they knew it was right by an interstate hard for me to have sympathy.

Monarch Grove looks very desirable to us, in a large part because it is easy to get in and out onto a main road. No matter where you live in MG, it is easy to take Corbin Trail or Reagan Road out to 501.

We're just south of 42 very quiet

The turnpike is close, very close.

There was no high voltage lines photo shopped out of the pictures, because there is none in Monarch Grove and there is one street in Monarch Grove that backs up to the turnpike, Hickey Way...so we’d appreciate getting the facts before making statements. Apparently you should have physically came here to see that...

It is very desirable, and it shows because there is only about 3-4 homes available in the entire community. We love it here...those who complain, most likely have never stepped foot past the gate..

No you are correct, there is none in Monarch Grove and there is in the areas you mentioned.

Are you kidding? The developer probably charged a lot premium for the deep view.

TRUTH ---->Online forum talk gives one a peek into those neighborhood party conversations where people criticize others for not being like themselves, lack of respect for differences of individuals, for having a different opinion, or for complete comfirnation bias.. We see the highway from the front door. Meh, about the noise. . . but we could care less about your opinion or to desire to reinforce your judgement about our purchase. GFY is more appropriate about your judgmental attitude of others who might be just as happy to be here as you are.

sportsguy

T-Bone lots, shopping center lots and more....
 

Buyer beware fits. Common Sense.

Lot across from Mail pickup/owners pool. Two exits point directly into the back of homes across the street. Headlight pollution every night.

Streets that end with a left or right turn option. Every vehicle is pointed straight into the front of a home.

Under High Tension Power Lines.

A town square. Happy Times or Noise pollution?

Undeveloped land behind the lot (Trailwinds Village shopping center, et all)

Waterfront - Alligators

Golf Course - 365 day parade of golf carts, golfers talking etc...

Prison - Light pollution and escapee risk

Active Rock quarry Boom!

And yet.... every lot in The Villages will be Sold.

Visit a location multiple times of the day. Drive around all roads in a 5 mile radius. Research various mapping websites. Google maps isn't up to date in all areas. Try to visualize how vacant land usage could impact. These seem prudent steps (to me) prior to buying a "For-ever-home".

Or, have the mindset of Change. Living someplace I don't like, Change. Repeat until your heirs are dividing what assets are left.

Making a poor choice and expecting others to fix it is a pathway to misery.

Cant blame the builders. Blame the buyers who felt they were getting a bargain price n jumpedon it. They saw the turnpike, they saw the area and bought anyway and now want to complain.

Yup, been here since sometime in 1964 when the Orlando to Wildwood section opened.

Wiki:History section

In 1961, Governor Collins approved the sale of $80 million in bonds to finance the parkway extension from Fort Pierce to Wildwood, adding another 156 miles (251 km) of roadway and shifting Interstate 75's route 6 miles (10 km) eastward from its original alignment. The extension was opened in three stages: a 61-mile (98 km) section between Yeehaw Junction and Orlando opened on July 17, 1963, a section linking Fort Pierce and Yeehaw Junction opened on November 22, 1963, and the section between Orlando and the northern terminus of I-75 opened on July 24, 1964, completing the mainline.

We bought in Monarch Grove and when we were shown the house it was perfectly quiet. Highway more than a mile from us. However, when the wind is in a certain direction, the noise from the highway was very loud. I asked about new windows and sliders and they would never call back. The sliders and windows were so thin that they should be illegal. Truth be told the house was poorly made and the Samsung appliances were the cheapest quality I’ve ever seen. TV and Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. No discount price at all! Well trained sales staff. Only took us a couple months to wise up that The Villages doesn’t give a rats ass about you. They just try to get every last dime out of your pocket...almost elder abuse. We found the people extremely snooty as well. Sold the house 5 months later and got the heck out of there. What’s up with the pumping stations and the smell? The workers put all sorts of debris down the pipes. Hey, I could go on for a long time but don’t put blame on people for buying there. Put the blame where it belongs on TV. Showing you houses when the noise is low and promising that if anything is wrong in the first year they correct it.

I don’t think the developer is concerned about it, witness the sinkhole fiasco in Calumet Grove. Bad PR is not a worry to them.

You are correct. No power lines in Monarch Grove. Poster just stirring the pot.

I live in MG...in fact on Hickey Way. The traffic does become white noise and I do not hear it inside. I built a pool with a fountain that drowns out the traffic noise when I am outside and landscaping hides the toll road. I do not see any electric wires and not sure where they are. But I have a wonderful water view with a huge oak tree that is sometimes filled with beautiful birds; the sunsets are stunning and I enjoy them every night from my lanai; I can easily walk to Riverbend recreation center and all the amenities that come with that; the huge Everglades Recreation Center and the new Magnolia Plaza are a very short golf cart or bike ride away; Sawgrass Grove will be a wonderful gathering place for entertainment and dining and will be right next to MG; a putting green and championship golf coarse will be very close by; the new Florida University hospital and Lifestyle Center are all right next to MG.........need I go on?

So, the salesmen are able to predict when the highway noise will be low?

And they sold only to snooty people?

I suspect the neighbors are a little happier now.

You are right. It was a house in Marsh Bend that had the power lines photo-shopped out. I looked up my old list of favorites when I was house shopping. Sorry...

You should edit your other post as it looks bad for those who may be trying to sell a home there.

Noise? When we lived up north, we lived about 6 or 7 miles from the Interstate. IF we had our windows open on a summer evening, you could hear the noise but it wasn't loud. We also lived about 8 miles from a race-track (another direction) and when they were in season, you'd hear the zoom/zoom of those as well. It depends on how quiet the air outside is, wind etc. Here, we live not far from LSL but when it's quiet outside (think evening) you can hear the train whistles from Wildwood. IF we wanted true quiet---maybe move to Montana in the middle of no-where. I'd think most urban areas have some kind of noise factors going on. When I read the article (even the headline)...my thought was did they not know they were buying a home near the turn-pike?? Asking the developer to do something about the noise seems to me to be like closing the barn-door after the animals escape. Deal or no deal---do your due-diligence.

There are several such noisy areas to avoid...

—All the houses near the railroad tracks on the western side of The Villages

—The houses nearby the prison (bright lights at night) and the quarry (frequent blasting)

—And yes, all the houses nearby the turnpike (not only noise, but also the unhealthy air quality from exhaust fumes)

Don’t expect a Properties of The Villages sales rep to point these issues out to you.

I am sure the village sales rep are told what they can and cannot say. Not to mention they are getting paid a commission to sell and will only point out the positives.

Buying a house for say $ 400,000 or so without doing a thorough investigation of the neighborhood is rather a foolish thing to do.