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KJ1325 12-03-2020 08:42 AM

Pool Cost
 
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

tophcfa 12-03-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ1325 (Post 1869171)
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

Three years ago $63K got us a beautiful 12x24 concrete salt water pool that is 3.5 to 5.5 feet deep. The pool has two waterfalls, led underwater lights, auto level water feature, a couple of rows of tile around the pool, solar heat as well as a heat pump, a pool cover that can be easily rolled up and is stored inside the pool deck, and a wireless Bluetooth device that controls all the pools functions. Included in the cost was everything turn key including re-sodding the lawn and new irrigation where things had to be moved. It also included a beautiful birdcage and deck that runs the entire length of the back of our house with a door on each side, and a hose bib and electrical outlet in the birdcage. T&D was our contractor and I would highly recommend them despite the wait. Good Luck.

graciegirl 12-03-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ1325 (Post 1869171)
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

We added a bath and a birdcage from T&D. Vera offered us several different options in price. I am very conservative with money. Members of my family who love me call me close to miserly. I saw the plans and chose the lesser priced one. My husband who is also a careful person with money said, NO. For once we are going to get the larger option. We can afford it and we are going to enjoy it. And we did. I am so glad. It is a constant source of enjoyment to the three of us. To bathe in and look out on and sit next to. Plus our two kitties are in heaven walking around it and looking out at the butterflies and birds and catching an occasional gecko.

Message me for the price.

kathyspear 12-03-2020 08:06 PM

Gracie, your pool is lovely!

We have gotten two estimates so far. One was mid- to high 50's, the other mid- to high 60's. Materials for the latter are higher end (i.e. pavers instead of composite decking). Still trying to decide if we want to invest that much money in our house. Decisions. Decisions.

kathy

villagetinker 12-03-2020 08:13 PM

IMHO, move into your house, see how the local pools are and possibly save yourself $$$$$. We have 4 pools within 1 mile of our house. This made our decision very easy, a hot tub on the lanai was our solution, and the local pools when we want to.

Kenswing 12-03-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KJ1325 (Post 1869171)
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you compared to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

We'll be going through the design process here shortly. Our designer says the average pool price during construction is about $60,000. Although pools of $100k+ aren't uncommon.

Just make sure when you select a lot that it is big enough for a pool. They actually provided us with a CAD drawing of our lot with our house and pool placed on it before we put down our deposit..

tophcfa 12-03-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1869436)
Gracie, your pool is lovely!

We have gotten two estimates so far. One was mid- to high 50's, the other mid- to high 60's. Materials for the latter are higher end (i.e. pavers instead of composite decking). Still trying to decide if we want to invest that much money in our house. Decisions. Decisions.

kathy

We waited over two years after buying our house before having our pool built. We wanted to be certain it was our forever Villages home before making the significant investment. We are so happy we finally pulled the trigger, it adds so much pleasure to our home. I would advise you to not go with pavers. They are a long term maintenance headache. They have too many spaces in between for unwanted stuff to collect and sprout weeds, and they become uneven and pose a tripping hazard over time. A flat surface that can be easily cleaned and maintained is the way to go. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

Juliebythesea 12-04-2020 06:11 AM

Call staycation pools Danny the owner is as nice as can be he’s doing lots of pools in my area south of 466A

Rwirish 12-04-2020 06:17 AM

TV has almost 100 pools. Use them, much cheaper.

banjobob 12-04-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1869440)
IMHO, move into your house, see how the local pools are and possibly save yourself $$$$$. We have 4 pools within 1 mile of our house. This made our decision very easy, a hot tub on the lanai was our solution, and the local pools when we want to.

Good answer with so many pools close to most homes the cost of installation and maintenance of a large pool is a serious consideration.

Bhighley 12-04-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ1325 (Post 1869171)
We are getting close to purchasing a lot. I'm trying to figure out how much a pool is going to cost. I know there's a ton of variables. But I'm curious what 75k gets you comparedo to 100K. Any pictures would be fantastic. It's almost impossible to work with t&d unless you're further in the process.

A pool will be at least $60k. If you can afford it, build a nice pool and enjoy it. If you can’t afford a pool, visit one of the many community pools in the villages...

Get bids from a few companies. I’d stay away from T&D, very basic/cheap construction

Get a heat pump instead of a gas heater. Make sure you get a salt pool and some automation. You may want to add some water features for aesthetics and road noise reduction. Choose a nice water line tile.

oemsp1 12-04-2020 07:40 AM

What about the open wound crowd....

TandHSTAR@AOL.com 12-04-2020 07:46 AM

Do not see anyone posting regular maintenance after installation. Another cost factir to think about.

sentry 12-04-2020 07:56 AM

What is the cost to keep up a pool?

JSR22 12-04-2020 07:58 AM

We had Fiesta Pools of Ocala put in our pool 6 years ago. My husband and I agree it was worth every dollar. We use it constantly, especially at night when all TV pools are closed. We pay T&D $130 per month to maintain the pool and that includes vacuuming, cleaning the tiles, balancing the water, washing the filter and the chemicals. The privacy is wonderful. Highly recommend for residents to put in their own pool.

photo1902 12-04-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TandHSTAR@AOL.com (Post 1869533)
Do not see anyone posting regular maintenance after installation. Another cost factir to think about.

Much less if you do it yourself. Whether you test the water yourself, or take a sample to T&D to have them analyze it, you'll save a bunch. I would estimate I spend less than $200 for the year in supplies to maintain my salt water pool.

And for the posts about just using one of the neighborhood pools, you simply cannot beat having your own pool. My wife and I went to the local pool a few times before having our pool built, and suffice it to say, I'd never go back to one.

PoolBrews 12-04-2020 08:12 AM

We went with Premier Pools of Central Florida. We had 6 estimate (including T&D), and Premier was the only company that properly sized the filter, the salt water generator (SWG), and the heat pump. They also included several major upgrades (pavers, wet edge finish) and were still considerably lower than our other estimates. They completed the pool on time (Novermber last year), and it has been fantastic!

Be careful of water features - they look great initially, but most folks don't enjoy them as much over time. In addition, running any water feature will raise pH in the pool quite a bit, so you'll be adding muriatic acid much more frequently than you normally would.

NavyVet 12-04-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1869539)
We had Fiesta Pools of Ocala put in our pool 6 years ago. My husband and I agree it was worth every dollar. We use it constantly, especially at night when all TV pools are closed. We pay T&D $130 per month to maintain the pool and that includes vacuuming, cleaning the tiles, balancing the water, washing the filter and the chemicals. The privacy is wonderful. Highly recommend for residents to put in their own pool.

I feel the same way. As residents since 2003, we made do with TV pools the first 10 years, then I had to give up on finding decent Lap Swim times at the sports pools and heaven forbid you try to 'swim' at the neighborhood 'pools'. We ended up buying our third house in 2017 so I could have my own pool. Best. Move. Ever. We had solar panels put in and use it a lot. Can't beat the privacy and convenience. T&D comes every week and takes care of everything, both the pool and the hot tub we added. We LOVE our staycation oasis!

NavyVet 12-04-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1869220)
We added a bath and a birdcage from T&D. Vera offered us several different options in price. I am very conservative with money. Members of my family who love me call me close to miserly. I saw the plans and chose the lesser priced one. My husband who is also a careful person with money said, NO. For once we are going to get the larger option. We can afford it and we are going to enjoy it. And we did. I am so glad. It is a constant source of enjoyment to the three of us. To bathe in and look out on and sit next to. Plus our two kitties are in heaven walking around it and looking out at the butterflies and birds and catching an occasional gecko.

Message me for the price.

Gracie, gorgeous pool! I especially like the columns of your bird cage, looks very elegant.

NavyVet 12-04-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1869489)
TV has almost 100 pools. Use them, much cheaper.

Yea right. 100 "pools" in TV and not a single one of them are for actual, you know, "swimming." Sports pools are full all day with aerobics classes and volleyball and the rest are full of walkers or standing around comparing aches, pains, illnesses or surgeries. No thanks.

DecaturFargo 12-04-2020 01:12 PM

Use Wiseman. We added solar just for the pool. It cost about $4200. Absolutely, worth it! We had T&D for pool maitenance, but they didn't service Pentair pool equipment, so we got rid of them. We use Tri-County Pools. Love them. Call Superior Solar. Tell them we sent you. Rochelle Larson

Bogie Shooter 12-04-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oemsp1 (Post 1869530)
What about the open wound crowd....

Just give them an invitation to your new pool.:icon_wink:

dewilson58 12-04-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhighley (Post 1869510)
Get bids from a few companies. I’d stay away from T&D, very basic/cheap construction

:bigbow:

photo1902 12-04-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1869749)
:bigbow:

Absolute BS. I could list a dozen or more positive, personal experiences using T&D for our pool, but I won’t stoop to the level of this post.

dewilson58 12-04-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1869801)
Absolute BS. I could list a dozen or more positive, personal experiences using T&D for our pool, but I won’t stoop to this comment.

:shrug: Not sure what you think is BS, but I was being nice by JUST supporting the poster's comment to stay away from T&D.

dewilson58 12-04-2020 05:13 PM

Oh, okay...........jus sign off. Bye Bye

Bogie Shooter 12-04-2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1869540)
Much less if you do it yourself. Whether you test the water yourself, or take a sample to T&D to have them analyze it, you'll save a bunch. I would estimate I spend less than $200 for the year in supplies to maintain my salt water pool.

And for the posts about just using one of the neighborhood pools, you simply cannot beat having your own pool. My wife and I went to the local pool a few times before having our pool built, and suffice it to say, I'd never go back to one.

I have a similar experience.

Kahuna32162 12-04-2020 05:29 PM

We are in our 2nd pre owned home in TV, both with existing pools in place. While neighborhood pools may be adequate for some folks, they are breading grounds for all sorts of water Bourne issues. Some folks are rude and very territorial in how they treat new folks.
If I had to do it from scratch, I would avoid pavers and use a gas supplemental heater to boast when solar is not enough. We also use T&D to maintain the pool weekly and have been very happy with them.

jojo 12-04-2020 06:05 PM

T&D built and services our pool. 12 1/2 years without a problem. Quality all the way with both the pool and birdcage.

graciegirl 12-04-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1869749)
:bigbow:

In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

HIgolfers 12-04-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyVet (Post 1869674)
I feel the same way. As residents since 2003, we made do with TV pools the first 10 years, then I had to give up on finding decent Lap Swim times at the sports pools and heaven forbid you try to 'swim' at the neighborhood 'pools'. We ended up buying our third house in 2017 so I could have my own pool. Best. Move. Ever. We had solar panels put in and use it a lot. Can't beat the privacy and convenience. T&D comes every week and takes care of everything, both the pool and the hot tub we added. We LOVE our staycation oasis!

You must have a huge pool if you can swim laps in it!

tophcfa 12-04-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1869829)
In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

I agree with Grace about the quality and professionalism of T&D. After watching the various groups of contractors throughout the building process, I was amazed at what went into the project and how efficient they are. Everything is done on a well organized schedule and I couldn’t believe how many different teams of contractors were part of the job. Each team specializes in a very specific function of the overall job, and are craftsman in their part of the process. Everything is overseen by a job foreman and the customer has his private cell phone number. He returns all calls promptly, and when he makes the call for the next group of subcontractors to show up, they show up almost immediately. I thought we were paying a premium for the job, but after witnessing everything that went into the project I was certain we made the correct decision. I am a picky individual and expect excellence when spending large sums of money, and T&D did not disappoint.

dewilson58 12-04-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1869829)
In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

:clap2::clap2::clap2:
I'm so glad you had a good experience with them years ago.
But if a newbie Gracie came to me today, I would NOT recommend them.


:MOJE_whot:

photo1902 12-04-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1869829)
In all the times I have read dewilson, I can only think of a couple of times we disagreed. We had an amazing team from T&D, actually two teams, one for the pool and the other for the bath, pillars, birdcage. I liked one better than another but both teams, headed by two people and their business ethics and design experience and work ethic are very praise worthy. We could have had it done cheaper but I doubt better. I was so impressed by the skill and diligence of almost all of the subs. One Not so much. But I know how to handle people pretty well.

My experience exactly. T&D can’t be beat as far as quality, customer service, and follow up work. You get what you pay for, and I, for one, couldn’t be happier with them.

dewilson58 12-04-2020 07:59 PM

Just to be clear........................I'm glad a few fellow posters had a good experience 5, 10, 12 years ago. Things change. My recommendation to the OP is to get CURRENT recommendations, what happened five years ago does not matter. I totally agree, they were the best years ago, but it's today. Eyes open. :ho:

tophcfa 12-04-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1869851)
Just to be clear........................I'm glad a few fellow posters had a good experience 5, 10, 12 years ago. Things change. My recommendation to the OP is to get CURRENT recommendations, what happened five years ago does not matter. I totally agree, they were the best years ago, but it's today. Eyes open. :ho:

Dewi, are you talking about T&D Pool and Spa Construction or the post Gary Morse developer squad?

photo1902 12-04-2020 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1869854)
Dewi, are you talking about T&D Pool and Spa Construction or the post Gary Morse developer squad?

Who knows what he means. We had them build a pool for us in 2016, and they’ve been nothing short of outstanding as far as maintenance and support to date. Even providing care after the warranty period expired.

To each their own

kathyspear 12-04-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1869489)
TV has almost 100 pools. Use them, much cheaper.

When I was inquiring about Medicare plans some people suggested Advantage because they include a health club membership. I know myself well enough to know that I would NEVER use a health club membership, free or not. Same goes for neighborhood pools.

We have lived in homes with pools and in pool-less homes with community pools. NEVER used the community pools and I know I won't here, either. Doesn't matter why, just that I know I won't.

So the issue is: Do I want to spend $60-75k on a pool knowing that if we sell the house we will never recover most of that money? (I don't plan to move again but I have said that before!) Will we get enough use/enjoyment out of the pool to spend the money anyway? I go back and forth. I wish hubs was dying to get the pool so I could just let him decide. :)

k.

Northerner52 12-05-2020 05:33 AM

T&D put my 12x24 with Bird Cage, LED, Gas heater and swim jets for $70K. Excellent quality. All with Hayward equip. Went with them even though Fiesta was 10% cheaper because they didn't include landscaping, sprinkler, gas hookup, permits etc. I was going to have to pay subcontractors separate like the bird cage. T&D is sole vendor. Heard horror stories about All Season and Wiseman. Good references from Staycation and they don't have much of a wait. Hear T&D is a year out for quotes.

graciegirl 12-05-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1869857)
Who knows what he means, and more importantly, who cares. We had them build a pool for us in 2016, and they’ve been nothing short of outstanding as far as maintenance and support to date. Even providing care after the warranty period expired.

To each their own

I care what he means. He had a valid problem or he would not share it. Dewilson is a reliable and honest person.

Sometimes things go wrong.


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