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La lamy 12-03-2020 11:42 AM

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive
 
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

CWGUY 12-03-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

:agree: I agree, it is unconscionable. Now I must(as you like to say "grow a pair") and ask...... why did you have to fly here? Did you not have a choice in the matter? :confused: I know the Canada–United States border is still closed...... that's not what I mean. I'm thinking you came here on vacation because you wanted too. Not because you had too.
My wife is Canadian and we changed our plans to go there this summer. We were also going to visit the grandkids in New York. I know there are rules we can all follow that allow us to travel...... just thought it best for all to cancel.
Anyway, enjoy your vacation and stay safe. :ho:

Stu from NYC 12-03-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

Wow hope they get a few years to consider their actions.

Velvet 12-03-2020 01:13 PM

Honolulu Star Advertiser:

“Wailua residents Wesley Moribe, 41, and Courtney Peterson, 46, were arrested after arriving in Lihue Sunday on a United Airlines flight.

Kauai police said the couple faces charges of reckless endangerment.

“They knowingly boarded a flight aware of their positive COVID-19 test results, placing the passengers of the flight in danger of death,” police said.

According to police, Moribe and Peterson took COVID-19 detection tests before the flight as part of Hawaii’s pre-travel testing program. Authorities at San Francisco International Airport took the couple to quarantine after they both tested positive for COVID-19 and told them not to fly.

Instead, the couple ignored the order and boarded the plane with their son, authorities said.”

And according to the airlines this is not the first time that this has happened. I wonder why the Airline Authorities did not stop these people from boarding? Will they be charged with attempted murder?

graciegirl 12-03-2020 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

That is so awful to hear. I am sure I personally do not know ANYONE that would do that. I hope that by luck or grace of God that those folks on the airplane stayed well.

charmed59 12-03-2020 02:08 PM

What really amazing about this is this couple, who lives on an island, is willing to put themselves on a no fly list in order to get home sooner. Now they may never get to leave.

La lamy 12-03-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1869299)
:agree: I agree, it is unconscionable. Now I must(as you like to say "grow a pair") and ask...... why did you have to fly here? Did you not have a choice in the matter? :confused: I know the Canada–United States border is still closed...... that's not what I mean. I'm thinking you came here on vacation because you wanted too. Not because you had too.
My wife is Canadian and we changed our plans to go there this summer. We were also going to visit the grandkids in New York. I know there are rules we can all follow that allow us to travel...... just thought it best for all to cancel.
Anyway, enjoy your vacation and stay safe. :ho:

I know I didn't "have" to fly here, but Medipac health insurance decided to cover Canadians going to the US for Covid, so that was my deciding factor.

La lamy 12-03-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1869340)
What really amazing about this is this couple, who lives on an island, is willing to put themselves on a no fly list in order to get home sooner. Now they may never get to leave.

Good point!

Velvet 12-03-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1869340)
What really amazing about this is this couple, who lives on an island, is willing to put themselves on a no fly list in order to get home sooner. Now they may never get to leave.

They may never get to leave anyways if Covid gets them first. But they sure weren’t concerned for the innocent others. They are flying to Kauai... those people are serious about this virus.

HeleneGB 12-04-2020 05:57 AM

Why didn't airline prevent them from boarding? Airline just as guilty as couple.

Girlcopper 12-04-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869344)
I know I didn't "have" to fly here, but Medipac health insurance decided to cover Canadians going to the US for Covid, so that was my deciding factor.

Thats a poor choice. Since insurance will pay your medical bills, you decided to chance getting the virus?

NotFromAroundHere 12-04-2020 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by helenegb (Post 1869481)
why didn't airline prevent them from boarding? Airline just as guilty as couple.

hipaa?

Art cov 12-04-2020 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HeleneGB (Post 1869481)
Why didn't airline prevent them from boarding? Airline just as guilty as couple.

Yes! This is insane, as the couple was pre screened before boarding. Airline is responsible! The couple also in this environment. Hawaii is one of the strictest place but if they slipped some cash to the right person or knew someone of importance in San Francisco, somebody may have turned the other way! And away they went. Just how did they board? They were screened!

daca55 12-04-2020 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

I’m not surprised. People today think only about themselves. It’s unfortunate but it is reality. I think there may be some law suits from people who end up with the virus because of that flight. A very good friend of mine used to always remind me that “all the monkeys are not in the zoo because everyday you meet quite a few”.Be safe!!

SisalPhil 12-04-2020 07:07 AM

Unfortunately nothing surprises me anymore.

Dahabs 12-04-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

Just another example of what much of society has become. Many are only concerned with themselves.

Bill14564 12-04-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1869506)
Yes! This is insane, as the couple was pre screened before boarding. Airline is responsible! The couple also in this environment. Hawaii is one of the strictest place but if they slipped some cash to the right person or knew someone of importance in San Francisco, somebody may have turned the other way! And away they went. Just how did they board? They were screened!

Carried extra cash on the chance they might run into trouble they could slip it to someone and get home. Yeah, that could be it.

Or, they went tested at the airport and advised to report to a quarantine center but got onto the plane instead and no one noticed they weren't at the center until after the plane departed.

Or, perhaps there is more to the story that hasn't appeared in the papers yet.

scottiesrgreat@gmail.com 12-04-2020 07:39 AM

If you aren’t......
 
I have traveled by plane this year and I plan to fly over Christmas. If I develop any cold or flu symptoms, I will not fly. I always wear a mask - that includes when I travel. Do I worry if I sit next to someone with COVID? No - because I am taking (and have been taking for decades) personal precautions - and (knock on wood) - I am not aware of any health issues I may be presently suffering from - I could exercise a lot more and drink more water - but, my weight is normal (because of **hard work and personal sacrifice ** on my own behalf) and I have only digested only 100% natural foods for decades - I don’t drink alcohol and have never smoked or kept myself in close proximity of anyone who is smoking. I have regular checkups and blood tests. I am far from perfect - but, I do not feel the least bit threatened by COVID. I think - I have mostly done - and I am doing (have been doing) the right things in life with respect to maintenance and care of the body I have been blessed with. You can shame others to your heart’s content for putting your health in jeopardy ..... but, look in the mirror - really, the only one that we can truly hold responsible for our health - is ourselves. I worry all the time of the poor decisions I made many, many years ago in my youth - will my past poor decisions eventually manifest into severe health complications? (If and when that happens - i only have myself to blame) .... I worry about any inherited health issues (but, if and when those manifest - I only have the genes I have inherited to blame) ..... but, I can’t blame and hold strangers accountable for whether I suffer complications from things like COVID. We tend to want to blame others for anything bad that happens to us. Sure - that may be true in some cases - but more often than not - in retrospect - if WE had done something different in our lives - the bad thing would not be a threat. Take care of the body that you have been blessed with - and keep in mind - if **YOU** can’t do what is best for your body ****— if *YOU* have not always done the 100% best thing for *YOUR* body - why do you think you have the right to demand others - total strangers - to do what is in the best interest of the health of your body?*****

JanetMM 12-04-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SisalPhil (Post 1869511)
Unfortunately nothing surprises me anymore.

Oooh my! 😯

Every time I have said that nothing surprises me anymore, it’s like FATE decides to prove me wrong. And somebody does something even more startling!

I hope you just didn’t tempt fate to prove you wrong. 😉

Jazzman 12-04-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1869525)
Carried extra cash on the chance they might run into trouble they could slip it to someone and get home. Yeah, that could be it.

Or, they went tested at the airport and advised to report to a quarantine center but got onto the plane instead and no one noticed they weren't at the center until after the plane departed.

Or, perhaps there is more to the story that hasn't appeared in the papers yet.

In my opinion your last sentence sums it all up pretty concisely. No one should ever base their current COVID result on just one test, most certainly if it was the rapid test.

cafw1 12-04-2020 08:16 AM

Vacationing in our country illegally?
 
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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869345)
Good point!

The borders between the US and Canada are closed. Are you telling us that you're flying into the US to get around the laws and then complaining about others also breaking the laws? You're both doing wrong. This year we shouldn't see any Canadian plates on cars.

dkspeaks 12-04-2020 08:16 AM

hope they are banded for life on United

Bill14564 12-04-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cafw1 (Post 1869552)
The borders between the US and Canada are closed. Are you telling us that you're flying into the US to get around the laws and then complaining about others also breaking the laws? You're both doing wrong. This year we shouldn't see any Canadian plates on cars.

Please do more research before accusing someone of breaking the law.

giorgio1948 12-04-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

May they both rest in peace and never fly that airline again.

BS Beef 12-04-2020 08:43 AM

I’m sorry some here are insisting you justify how you choose to live. I’m conflicted on whether that’s more pathetic or more disgusting.

moe1212 12-04-2020 08:59 AM

terribly irresponsible for anyone that is legitimately sick (of anything) to expose other people. However at their age they will not die and most likely wont even have any serious symptoms. I worry about the over 80 year old's or vulnerable immune systems, (who should be self quarantined), that may have been exposed. Now that I think about it, wouldn't make sense to have the vulnerable stay safe and let the majority of society go about their business?

NY2TV 12-04-2020 09:05 AM

When I flew to NY recently, I filled out a questionnaire that simply asked if I had been tested for Covid 19, but didn't ask if I tested negative. How absurd.

moe1212 12-04-2020 09:08 AM

Kind of reminds me of the amusement parks. I am sure we all are aware of the height requirement to get on the scary rides. If you are two small you cant ride, its too dangerous. If you are tall enough go for it ,your choice). I have never seen the entire amusement park shut down in order to protect the few.

Topspinmo 12-04-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere (Post 1869504)
hipaa?

Hipaa :1rotfl: everybody can get my medical records but me. I have to paid for my own records.

Joe C. 12-04-2020 09:34 AM

I'll bet that nobody who flew with them on that plane will "die" from Covid. There is way too much "deadly hype" about Covid. We are becoming an emasculated society.

pattytracey 12-04-2020 09:41 AM

Not a problem 99 percent recovery rate no worries

airstreamingypsy 12-04-2020 09:45 AM

I'm not surprised. When I see people in Publix without a mask, I think they are exactly the same as this couple. They feel self entitled, and don't care if there are consequences to their me me me adolescent behavior.

Dahabs 12-04-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pattytracey (Post 1869613)
Not a problem 99 percent recovery rate no worries

Perhaps, but what do you do if you have a medical emergency unrelated to Covid and hospitals cannot admit you because all beds are taken up with Covid patients? No worries? Or perhaps you are just being facetious.

cafw1 12-04-2020 10:31 AM

Looking for Loopholes
 
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1869560)
Please do more research before accusing someone of breaking the law.

Please reread what I actually wrote. I didn't say they are breaking the law. They are "skirting" the law and looking for loopholes.

Jerry Leinsing 12-04-2020 10:35 AM

Look at Safe Ship story on todays D
aily Sun Local News . Three wearing and 1 customer on left not wearing mask. Where is “No shirt, no shoes, no mask = no service”?

Bill14564 12-04-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cafw1 (Post 1869652)
Please reread what I actually wrote. I didn't say they are breaking the law. They are "skirting" the law and looking for loopholes.

Again, doing more research would be useful. There are no laws against Canadians flying into the US. Therefore, there is no "skirting."

I don't see how you can interpret this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by cafw1 (Post 1869652)
...complaining about others also breaking the laws? You're both doing wrong...

as anything other than an accusation that a law was broken and the action was wrong. Neither is necessarily true.

rmd2 12-04-2020 10:53 AM

When the airport personnel found out they were positive for COVID, they should have called health officials to take them or at least escorted them out of the airport. I don't know what the process should have been but they should not have been allowed to stay in the airport.

manaboutown 12-04-2020 11:35 AM

Photos of the dirtbags. Couple arrested after boarding plane to Hawaii knowing they were infected with COVID-19, police say

jimjamuser 12-04-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1869286)
This is unconscionable!!! I had to fly here and certainly was worried about someone being asymptomatic on the plane, but would never think someone would willfully do this.

Couple arrested for knowingly boarding flight while COVID-19 positive | TheHill

:ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked::ohdear::shocked :

We live in a "greed is good" type of world right now. It could take years to go back to a truly humanitarian world in the US. We are scarred. What you describe is the ULTIMATE "greed" - being willing to KILL others just to have convenient travel for themselves. ........the Fish is Rotting to its Core ! Just further evidence that we live in a pre and a post CV world. Will we EVER truly return to "NORMAL" ?

Velvet 12-04-2020 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1869696)
We live in a "greed is good" type of world right now. It could take years to go back to a truly humanitarian world in the US. We are scarred. What you describe is the ULTIMATE "greed" - being willing to KILL others just to have convenient travel for themselves. ........the Fish is Rotting to its Core ! Just further evidence that we live in a pre and a post CV world. Will we EVER truly return to "NORMAL" ?

Yes we will. Human kindness is legendary. It has not gone away. There is just an emphasis on the immediate dangers we are facing right now. Normal will return. But for me it’s going to be a lot better because we used to have colds and flus and stomach aches several times a year. Well, not this year! My home has never been cleaner.

We have always had “Judas” es and always will. It is possible the couple was ignorant rather than just being plain evil. These types of people have always been among us.


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