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laryb 01-02-2021 04:12 PM

Sluggish drains
 
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

retiredguy123 01-02-2021 04:21 PM

It sounds more like the main drain has an obstruction, not the vent. You would need to run a snake down the drain to see if there is an obstruction.

New Englander 01-02-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1881303)
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

My opinion is, it's time to call a plumber.

JohnN 01-02-2021 05:41 PM

Mike Scott Plumbing

Mortal1 01-02-2021 06:15 PM

I've had to go outside and open the external entryway a few times and immediately after opening both toilets finally flush. I've a sneaky suspicion that when you flush both toilets at the same time you can get a stoppage as they converge at the same point and cause and air plug. Might be it's my mind that's plugged though.

RaunchyRich 01-02-2021 06:41 PM

Flush a couple Buckets of Hot soapy water down the Toliet! Dishwashing soap, is recommended... you most definitely have a clog in your main line.. many people make the mistake of pouring grease in their drains rather than capture it in a soup can..

coffeebean 01-02-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1881349)
My opinion is, it's time to call a plumber.

Call Roto Rooter, that's the name, and away go troubles down the drain.

mike1946 01-03-2021 06:08 AM

Go and get a few 2 liter bottles of the cheapest coca cola you can find ... the rougher the better - that stuff is about 68% phosphoric acid and will disolve things like hair blockages etc. Give your drain 2 liters a day for about a week ...Worked for me - saw it on the web !! Cheaper than a plumber.

FromNY 01-03-2021 06:35 AM

Was a nasty habit years ago that when building the workers threw lots of things down the drains. Actually took items out such as paint brushes. They even buried paint cans and garbage on the property. I would like to think this practice has stopped. 18years ago there were numerous builders in each neighborhood. Mike Scott is excellent. We normally put Clorax down shower drains once a month that seems to get the smells out.

Gramadawn 01-03-2021 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1881303)
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

When we had a toilet replaced, they found that apparently
when they installed the tile floor they had cleaned off their tool by wiping it into the drain leaving only a small hole for the waste to go down. Since this was removed and the new toilet, no more problems

Skunky1 01-03-2021 06:41 AM

Time to call the guy!

thevillagernie 01-03-2021 06:46 AM

daaa call a plumber

La lamy 01-03-2021 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FromNY (Post 1881468)
Was a nasty habit years ago that when building the workers threw lots of things down the drains. Actually took items out such as paint brushes. They even buried paint cans and garbage on the property. I would like to think this practice has stopped. 18years ago there were numerous builders in each neighborhood. Mike Scott is excellent. We normally put Clorax down shower drains once a month that seems to get the smells out.

Off topic, but yeah also check your air vents. Mine were full of dirt and construction crap.

Jacksig 01-03-2021 07:09 AM

You're not chewing your food right! :a040:

xcaligirl 01-03-2021 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1881303)
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

Same problem! I asked around the neighborhood but nobody else seems to have the problem or can't smell it!! I finally convinced the hubby to call Mike Scott (we've always had them and we're terrific). They showed up, turned on every faucet in the house and garage, let them run for about 15 minutes, opened up the sewer out front and it flushed through.... He wouldn't put a snake down the drain to make sure there was no obstruction. In his opinion, it was "fixed" and his job was finished. About 2 weeks later, same smell, same problem. I know I won't be calling Mike Scott back to the house to turn on faucets...I'll try the 'coke trick' first...We never had bad service prior and haven't tried them again. Don't know if it was an isolated issue with the technician!

crash 01-03-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1881502)
Same problem! I asked around the neighborhood but nobody else seems to have the problem or can't smell it!! I finally convinced the hubby to call Mike Scott (we've always had them and we're terrific). They showed up, turned on every faucet in the house and garage, let them run for about 15 minutes, opened up the sewer out front and it flushed through.... He wouldn't put a snake down the drain to make sure there was no obstruction. In his opinion, it was "fixed" and his job was finished. About 2 weeks later, same smell, same problem. I know I won't be calling Mike Scott back to the house to turn on faucets...I'll try the 'coke trick' first...We never had bad service prior and haven't tried them again. Don't know if it was an isolated issue with the technician!

Call them back they should come out for free for the service call. Coke has phosphoric acid in it but not anywhere near 68% just look where it comes on the ingredient list. You need to have it snaked.

nancyre 01-03-2021 08:03 AM

Waste Line
 
I have had the blockage issue once SOOO bad it required snake "Mike Scott" from the outside all the way to under my master. Both my toilets are on the Far Side of the house. I had already done the everything on etc. I told them what it was and just had them snake it from the outside. AVOID Charmin, and the ULTRA toilet papers. 2 years later with all of this I got some ultra T-P no other options that were not tissue paper. It started to be an issue again. Purchased Green Gobbler waste line cleaner at Home Depot. Gave it 6 hours without running the water. It is enzymes rather than acid. ALL Good. The waste lines in the 466A area are 4" mains which open to 6" mains on the street side of the house trap. Too much acid over time and the pipes will take a beating. Next house I want to make sure my toilets and house trap are on the same side of the house. They can also scope the line and see if there are any things there that should not be.

Gabi12 01-03-2021 08:16 AM

Plumber
 
Give our guy Mark the plumber a call. He’s honest for sure!
(847) 812-3528

Hockey dude 01-03-2021 08:32 AM

If you live in a new construction village, we had that problem as well in most of our neighborhood.

We called community watch and Scott plumbing. The plumbers ending up calling Jacobs and they sent out the the large “vacuum” truck and cleaned out the main sewer lines in the streets,

Took care of the problem. They also checked the “joint” line from the 2 homes to the street.

Bill1701 01-03-2021 08:35 AM

I had the same problem and called a plumber. He turned on a faucet and went outside and took the cap off the drain access to see what was happening. There was very little water flowing so that meant a partial clog somewhere before the access. He ran a snake up the pipe and found a piece of cloth. Pulled that out and everything was fine.

willbush 01-03-2021 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1881303)
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

I put Drano Max down our toilets & shower drain every 3 months plus take off metal drain off shower drain and clean out hair which clog up near to of drain: no issues for 10 yrs;Also pour 1 gallon of warm water with bleach down A/C drain every 2 monts;again no issues in 10 yrs; neighbors who didn't do it all have had plugging up issues; preventative maintenance = no need for a plumber; Good Luck

Whimsy 01-03-2021 08:38 AM

Same problem in a Grandview. First two times Mike Scott unseated the toilet and snaked the line. Nothing really found. They said next time they would bring a camera. Since then I have been successful turning on the sinks and shower and plunging the heck out of it, getting water on the floor. I have wondered if the slope of the drain is too little.

ithos 01-03-2021 08:41 AM

I started using RV toilet paper during Covid because it was always available in the camping section of Walmart. I think I will keep using it to help avoid issues like this.

lndcieri 01-03-2021 08:45 AM

Sluggish Drains and other problems
 
I am glad to know I am not the only one with with this situation. I have had back up even into the bathtub. I went to YouTube and several plumbers recommended putting very hot water (if water isn't too high) and then pouring in Dawn. The Dawn sinks down and after a while everything cleared.

I am in a CYV and wondering if you are. When I had a walk through with the plumber (4H Plumbing)13 years ago, he said that, due to the layout, the master bath would take a long time to heat. He was not kidding - it took a ton of water running a long time before it was even warm. Well, it turned out that the shower line was filled with sawdust and construction debris which, of course, slowed everything down.

Additionally, I had a leak in the pipes behind the wall twice. I have used Kiley and Sons and have been very satisfied with them. I am hoping I won't be needing them again any time soon.

Villages Kahuna 01-03-2021 08:49 AM

Call a plumber?

gwenhwalker@yahoo.com 01-03-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1881303)
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

Any TP over 2ply I.e.Charmin and any flushable wipes will clog toilets here. Call a plumber before you get flooded

Jerry Leinsing 01-03-2021 09:08 AM

Heavy plunging can push seal out. Flush after plunging.
Nice easy drain cleaner is baking soda and vinegar. Maybe 1/2 -1 cup of BS in or kit or bath opening and add 1/2+ cup vinegar. Watch it bubble.
Venting always possible but with inspected work, not probable unless a homeowner did his own work (might/might not be legal here in Florida)
Have cleared nests In stacks that reduced air flow. Very rare but happens.
I need to do this today: I like to allow the sink stoppers to sit ON TOP of the horizontal lift bar of the popup instead of being trapped so it can’t be removed.
It will still seat fine but easier to get baking soda in there.

DOGSAREKEEPERS 01-03-2021 09:17 AM

We had same problem. Plummer found a separation in outside drain line. They dug in lawn found the separation made a new connection and we were good.

Inspector Mark 01-03-2021 09:28 AM

I recommend you the the sewer lines video scoped. It should only cost a couple of hundred dollars. This will show you exactly what's going on. You can have anything from a broken pipe, offset pipe joints, debris, grease buildup, etc. Before trying home made remedies it's best to see what is going on. Having the pipes, snaked, hydro jetted, or roto rootered could cause more damage depending on what going on.

retiredguy123 01-03-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gwenhwalker@yahoo.com (Post 1881605)
Any TP over 2ply I.e.Charmin and any flushable wipes will clog toilets here. Call a plumber before you get flooded

Scotts 1000 single ply is the best.

greenflash245 01-03-2021 09:36 AM

don't screw around, call roto rooter

Inspector Mark 01-03-2021 09:52 AM

I recommend you the the sewer lines video scoped. It should only cost a couple of hundred dollars. This will show you exactly what's going on. You can have anything from a broken pipe, offset pipe joints, debris, grease buildup, etc. Before trying home made remedies it's best to see what is going on. Having the pipes, snaked, hydro jetted, or roto rootered could cause more damage depending on what going on.

arbajeda 01-03-2021 09:56 AM

We had that problem. Found out that that the sewer drains for us and our neighbors converge to a 6 inch drain that goes to the street. Called CDD utilities (their number can be found here, Village Community Development Districts) and they sent out a vacuum truck. They told us that if the problem was our drain line we would have to pay a service charge, but the problem turned out to be rocks in the 6 inch pipe that was forming a dam that kept the line from draining into the street. They removed rocks and other construction debris and we haven't had problems since. A plumber will not check this out and that's why it returns for some. And the people who came out for us told us that this is a common problem.

wiltma 01-03-2021 10:02 AM

We had the same problem with both our toilets. We replaced the one with the most
Problem with a more powerful flush from Lowe’s.

dadoiron 01-03-2021 10:08 AM

Nope hasn't stopped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FromNY (Post 1881468)
Was a nasty habit years ago that when building the workers threw lots of things down the drains. Actually took items out such as paint brushes. They even buried paint cans and garbage on the property. I would like to think this practice has stopped. 18years ago there were numerous builders in each neighborhood. Mike Scott is excellent. We normally put Clorax down shower drains once a month that seems to get the smells out.

Seems they threw concrete pieces down ours. The plumber (Mike Scott plumbing) roto rooted ours and there was a loud banging when it hits the concrete pieces. I saw them flow by in bits. He didn't want to say anything about it since the service was still within warranty and cost us nothing.

My experience is these builders are some of the worst around. They should be fired.

OhioBuckeye 01-03-2021 10:17 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1881303)
Our master bath toilet keeps getting blocked, sometimes even blocking the guest bath toilet. When I plunger it, we get a sewerage smell from the shower and sinks. When I shut the drains in the sink and plunge, it seems to help clear it. I have a feeling that this might be more of a problem with the vents. Anyone have a similar problem?

Before we moved to TV our toilets flushed but very slow for about 5 yrs. I started getting a little discouraged about sewage or water going down so slow. I fought it for a week or 2, finally I got my extension ladder out & climb on the roof, low & behold both of our vent pipes still had the plugs in them. The builder came within 2 hrs. & took the plugs out himself. After that those toilets could flush a 10 lb. bag of sand down. All I’m saying is it could be some neighbor on the same line flushing wet wipes or tampons down their toilets. Hope you figure it out!

DonnaNi4os 01-03-2021 10:29 AM

In my opinion, it is better to call a plumber than deal with a catastrophic backup. I’ve heard of people who have had toilet waste back up into their shower. One thing I learned from years of having a septic system and 4 kids is to use single ply toilet tissue. Good luck.

rmd2 01-03-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1881502)
Same problem! I asked around the neighborhood but nobody else seems to have the problem or can't smell it!! I finally convinced the hubby to call Mike Scott (we've always had them and we're terrific). They showed up, turned on every faucet in the house and garage, let them run for about 15 minutes, opened up the sewer out front and it flushed through.... He wouldn't put a snake down the drain to make sure there was no obstruction. In his opinion, it was "fixed" and his job was finished. About 2 weeks later, same smell, same problem. I know I won't be calling Mike Scott back to the house to turn on faucets...I'll try the 'coke trick' first...We never had bad service prior and haven't tried them again. Don't know if it was an isolated issue with the technician!

It is NOT an isolated problem. I have a sewer smell coming from the shower and like you I called Mike Scott Plumbing. The plumber said there was nothing wrong and didn't do anything to fix it. The problem is still there! The only thing different is that I am out $200 for nothing. I have used Mike Scott Plumbing quite a few times but no more. Can anyone suggest a better plumber?

rmd2 01-03-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1946 (Post 1881453)
Go and get a few 2 liter bottles of the cheapest coca cola you can find ... the rougher the better - that stuff is about 68% phosphoric acid and will disolve things like hair blockages etc. Give your drain 2 liters a day for about a week ...Worked for me - saw it on the web !! Cheaper than a plumber.

Thanks! I'll try this.

PugMom 01-03-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by willbush (Post 1881571)
I put Drano Max down our toilets & shower drain every 3 months plus take off metal drain off shower drain and clean out hair which clog up near to of drain: no issues for 10 yrs;Also pour 1 gallon of warm water with bleach down A/C drain every 2 monts;again no issues in 10 yrs; neighbors who didn't do it all have had plugging up issues; preventative maintenance = no need for a plumber; Good Luck

be careful--our realtor told us to not use that stuff, as our pipes are plastic, & could possibly eat through it


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