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Papa_lecki 01-09-2021 11:28 AM

Out of bounds etiquette
 
What is the etiquette if you hit a ball “out of bounds” and it lands in someone’s yard? do you leave it or go and grab it? Is having some random balls getting picked up from your yard part of the price of living on the golf course?

billethkid 01-09-2021 11:38 AM

For many.....if they can see it they go get it.

We play it as a lost ball.

bagboy 01-09-2021 11:51 AM

It seems to be legal in most golf course communities for a golfer to retrieve a wayward golf shot

Golf Ball Hazards In Florida: Legal Overview - FindLaw

biker1 01-09-2021 12:07 PM

The Villages' golf guidelines indicate that you should not go on someone's property.

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1884610)
What is the etiquette if you hit a ball “out of bounds” and it lands in someone’s yard? do you leave it or go and grab it? Is having some random balls getting picked up from your yard part of the price of living on the golf course?


rustyp 01-09-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1884630)
It seems to be legal in most golf course communities for a golfer to retrieve a wayward golf shot

Golf Ball Hazards In Florida: Legal Overview - FindLaw


Per your attachment "Under Florida property and real estate laws, golf course communities almost always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements, and covenants that allow golfers to retrieve their errant balls on residents’ properties. "

I have read my property deed stem to stern and did not see any clause about golf balls. I don't care if a golfer comes on my property to retrieve a golf ball but you always have someone that goes beyond common sense. I have had golfers hack away in my landscaping searching for a ball. Then there are those that pretend they are not OB and hit from your yard. I'm not fond of the divot after all that TLC I put into the most expensive stuff they call grass down here. I am lucky since my house sits on the left side of a fairway on a very long par 4. Most golfers slice thus right side houses get the brunt plus many golfers take three strokes to reach the green on my hole thus the last shot is a short chip and usually at the green not my house. I have had one broken window and the golfer manned up and came over and offered to pay. I told him that was not necessary or required but was impressed by his ethics.

ohiosbestus 01-09-2021 12:23 PM

Golf balls should not be picked up out of another persons yard. It also says if you break another persons window the golfer is not responsible for it. If you do go into another persons property you are actually trespassing. I also think about 99% of the people dont care if you come into their yard to get your golf ball but dont hit it out of their yard.

bagboy 01-09-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1884639)
Per your attachment "Under Florida property and real estate laws, golf course communities almost always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements, and covenants that allow golfers to retrieve their errant balls on residents’ properties. "

I have read my property deed stem to stern and did not see any clause about golf balls. I don't care if a golfer comes on my property to retrieve a golf ball but you always have someone that goes beyond common sense. I have had golfers hack away in my landscaping searching for a ball. Then there are those that pretend they are not OB and hit from your yard. I'm not fond of the divot after all that TLC I put into the most expensive stuff they call grass down here. I am lucky since my house sits on the left side of a fairway on a very long par 4. Most golfers slice thus right side houses get the brunt plus many golfers take three strokes to reach the green on my hole thus the last shot is a short chip and usually at the green not my house. I have had one broken window and the golfer manned up and came over and offered to pay. I told him that was not necessary or required but was impressed by his ethics.

Personally, I do not go into a private yard to retrieve a golf ball. We retired to South Carolina several years ago. I worked at a golf club for over a decade, and we lived in a different country club community for 7 years, off course by choice. I've seen just about everything, good and bad.
I don't doubt that this issue isn't addressed in your deed restrictions, but it should be in my opinion. But, I doubt this issue fell through the cracks at the developers office. They must have a reason to omit it.

retiredguy123 01-09-2021 01:20 PM

My shots always go down the center of the fairway.

So, this is a non-issue.

John_W 01-09-2021 01:23 PM

I remember last time someone asked this same question. A couple of posters said, I hope you go get your ball, I don't want to run over it with my lawn mower.

Art cov 01-09-2021 02:23 PM

I used to live on a golf bombing range up north! Lol The home I owned was on #15 and a disaster for flying balls. The only safe place on the property was in the house/garage. I was well aware when I purchased, that balls we’re going to be a problem and golfers were going to be traipsing through my property. I do mean every inch and on porches. All owners in danger areas were aware. Boundary was 35’ from back porch. Only things that bothered me was golf carts on my property, not being considerate for leaving wrappers or garbage, walking in my plant beds for their balls, taking the balls they found that other’s didn’t retrieve (I thought I should at least get the balls that the swingers left) 5 years I lived there and gathered quite a collection, oh and the language at times was horrendous. But a lot of entertaining moments as the lovers and the fighters had no idea someone was in the area. Be courteous and respectful of home owners and usually they will be nice also. I sold the home and left with several 5 gal buckets of balls. My reward! Never again will I own in direct path of flying balls

CFrance 01-09-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1884630)
It seems to be legal in most golf course communities for a golfer to retrieve a wayward golf shot

Golf Ball Hazards In Florida: Legal Overview - FindLaw

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1884636)
The Villages' golf guidelines indicate that you should not go on someone's property.

I've heard the FL law one before. I've also heard that in signing at closing you are agreeing to golfers coming on to your property. Noe it seems that TV doesn't allow it. I wonder which of these three takes precedence.



Can TV rules override FL law?

Mortal1 01-09-2021 04:59 PM

If you base your action and answer based on consideration alone you'd leave the ball. The RULE within the Villages is that if a ball goes into someones yard you leave it...now if the person is within earshot/view you can always ask them if you can retrieve it.

All other comments are based on personal preference, the need to think you're humorous, hearsay or what the rules are elsewhere.

dewilson58 01-09-2021 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1884610)
What is the etiquette if you hit a ball “out of bounds” and it lands in someone’s yard? do you leave it or go and grab it? Is having some random balls getting picked up from your yard part of the price of living on the golf course?

Jus go grab it if it's a few feet in.
99% of Villagers don't care.
The 1%'rs will let you know IF they are home.
:coolsmiley:

Marathon Man 01-09-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1884698)
I've heard the FL law one before. I've also heard that in signing at closing you are agreeing to golfers coming on to your property. Noe it seems that TV doesn't allow it. I wonder which of these three takes precedence.



Can TV rules override FL law?

Reading the legal summary provided, there is no law that allows golfers to trespass. And, since TV has consistantly told golfers that they should not trespass, it must not be in any signed agreements that property owners must allow golfers to enter their property.

Lots of things are said and then repeated so many times that it becomes "true", even though it is not.

John_W 01-09-2021 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1884744)
Jus go grab it if it's a few feet in.
99% of Villagers don't care.
The 1%'rs will let you know IF they are home.
:coolsmiley:

About five years ago playing Tally Ho, that's the nine across from the Glenview Club House. We were on the 9th hole, that's the hole with a huge oak tree right in the middle of the fairway about 210 yards from the white tees. We moved up to our drives and one of the players was in in the left rough and we were looking for his ball. The rough is not very wide before you reach the homes, which is built in trouble since the oak tree eliminates the middle of the fairway.

We didn't even talk to the homeowner or go in his yard, but this guy comes out and said. I just spent $10,000 for this birdcage and you all better not hit it. Well, if were going hit it, we would of hit it back when were on the tee. The guy obviously should of not have bought a home on the golf course if he's going to be standing out there yelling at every golfer to go by. Anyway, I've played it about 15 times since and never seen him again.

Mel6054 01-10-2021 06:20 AM

What does “OB” mean?

golfing eagles 01-10-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mel6054 (Post 1884838)
What does “OB” mean? ������

Here's a hint------look at the title of this thread:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Miriam2940 01-10-2021 06:29 AM

If you go onto someone’s property to get a golf ball you are trespassing. Rules are: don’t go onto someone else’s property, ball is lost, take the penalty.

swooner 01-10-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1884610)
What is the etiquette if you hit a ball “out of bounds” and it lands in someone’s yard? do you leave it or go and grab it? Is having some random balls getting picked up from your yard part of the price of living on the golf course?

If you're bad enough to hit it into a yard then you deserve to lose the ball. Also, depends if the owner has a shotgun.

golfing eagles 01-10-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Miriam2940 (Post 1884847)
If you go onto someone’s property to get a golf ball you are trespassing. Rules are: don’t go onto someone else’s property, ball is lost, take the penalty.

Technically not lost, it's already OB. Choices are go back to the tee hitting 3 or drop it within 1 club length of the rough on the fairway at an equidistant point, hitting 4

thevillages2013 01-10-2021 06:38 AM

If I can see it I am going to get it. It’s my ball. I paid for it and paid good money to play on the grass next to your grass! 😀

golfing eagles 01-10-2021 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 1884853)
If I can see it I am going to get it. It’s my ball. I paid for it and paid good money to play on the grass next to your grass! 😀

But the homeowner paid more for his grass (and maintenance thereof) than you did for your golf ball.

Cheapbas 01-10-2021 06:48 AM

If it’s a Titleist pro-v or AVC, I’m going in.

noslices1 01-10-2021 06:50 AM

Golf shots
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1884661)
My shots always go down the center of the fairway.

So, this is a non-issue.

When you only hit the ball 20-30 yards, it almost always stays in the fairway.

Oneiric 01-10-2021 07:18 AM

Removing/retrieving a lost ball should be the same whether the homeowner has to walk on the same turf to lift the ball or the golfer, as long as you show total respect for the plants and shrubs, I don't see why there should be a problem.

Oneiric 01-10-2021 07:21 AM

Where one should not "play" his next shot. It has nothing to do with retrieving something. In some major tournaments, O.B. may be another fairway on the same golf course.

pvetrano1 01-10-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1884610)
What is the etiquette if you hit a ball “out of bounds” and it lands in someone’s yard? do you leave it or go and grab it? Is having some random balls getting picked up from your yard part of the price of living on the golf course?

I live on a golf course. I really dont care if a golfer walks on my lawn to get his golf ball. What's the big deal ?

dewilson58 01-10-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1884749)
About five years ago playing Tally Ho, that's the nine across from the Glenview Club House. We were on the 9th hole, that's the hole with a huge oak tree right in the middle of the fairway about 210 yards from the white tees. We moved up to our drives and one of the players was in in the left rough and we were looking for his ball. The rough is not very wide before you reach the homes, which is built in trouble since the oak tree eliminates the middle of the fairway.

We didn't even talk to the homeowner or go in his yard, but this guy comes out and said. I just spent $10,000 for this birdcage and you all better not hit it. Well, if were going hit it, we would of hit it back when were on the tee. The guy obviously should of not have bought a home on the golf course if he's going to be standing out there yelling at every golfer to go by. Anyway, I've played it about 15 times since and never seen him again.

Good example of the 1%'r.
Not happy with life.
Making a mountain out of an ant hill.


I like the "guy" on Bonifay that has a sign, "Please feel free to retrieve your ball".

dewilson58 01-10-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1884860)
When you only hit the ball 20-30 yards, it almost always stays in the fairway.

Ouch!!

camaguey48 01-10-2021 07:33 AM

I don't play golf and do not plan to learn. However, if I did and I hit the ball into someone's property, I would ask the property owner if I could retrieve the ball. If there's no one home, I'd leave it and take the penalty. That is called RESPECT! Something that is lacking more and more in society. It's just a ball, folks.

Bay Kid 01-10-2021 07:47 AM

One of the reasons I don't have a home on the golf course. Hard hat area.

Girlcopper 01-10-2021 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiosbestus (Post 1884641)
Golf balls should not be picked up out of another persons yard. It also says if you break another persons window the golfer is not responsible for it. If you do go into another persons property you are actually trespassing. I also think about 99% of the people dont care if you come into their yard to get your golf ball but dont hit it out of their yard.

This is the most accurate response posted

Nick B 01-10-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1884661)
My shots always go down the center of the fairway.

So, this is a non-issue.

I'm terrible at best but never hit a house.

Bill1701 01-10-2021 08:16 AM

If the ball is easily seen and I don't have to go over any plants, I will usually just go get it and bring it inbounds to hit. Otherwise it is a lost ball and by senior rules you have to take a drop inbounds. Losing a ball is considered penalty enough so you don't lose a shot.

banjobob 01-10-2021 08:32 AM

Common sense would be pick up the ball ,play it from the course.

Regor 01-10-2021 08:47 AM

I bet if your dog left something in those 1 percenters yards, they would want you to trespass and pick it up!

merrymini 01-10-2021 08:49 AM

Some golfers are too stupid for words. Most are alright. Hard to tell them apart until the moment they prove you right.

richs631 01-10-2021 08:52 AM

Just use common sense. If you see it and it’s close pick it up. If you have to look for it or it’s near the house, leave it

mikeym 01-10-2021 09:02 AM

Out of Bounds
 
Several years ago, a girlfriend of our hit her drive into a backyard while playing Terra. As she walked to retrieve her ball, the apparent owner of the house was standing over her ball and proclaimed that "the ball was on his property and now belonged to Him". Rather than confront him, she walked back to her cart, got another golf ball, and gave it to him saying "here, real men have two of these".

camaguey48 01-10-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeym (Post 1885001)
Several years ago, a girlfriend of our hit her drive into a backyard while playing Terra. As she walked to retrieve her ball, the apparent owner of the house was standing over her ball and proclaimed that "the ball was on his property and now belonged to Him". Rather than confront him, she walked back to her cart, got another golf ball, and gave it to him saying "here, real men have two of these".

Ouch!! That's gonna leave a mark.


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