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alwann 02-23-2021 02:53 PM

Poor Tiger
 
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

Nucky 02-23-2021 03:12 PM

It was nice seeing him out on the course with his son a few weeks back. While I agree that I'm sorry to see anyone get in an accident I'm going to withhold the Poor Tiger Part until the details emerge. Sorry but that's the way it works in my little world. I certainly hope he is going to be okay.

DeanFL 02-23-2021 03:21 PM

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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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DARFAP 02-23-2021 03:31 PM

Like his accident in Florida, probably involved painkillers and driving. He looked a bit sauced during his interview on TV at Riviera this past weekend. Pure speculation.

John_W 02-23-2021 03:41 PM

According to Golf Digest:

According to a statement from the L.A. County Sherriff's Department, police responded to a “roll-over traffic collision” at approximately 7:12 a.m. “The driver and sole occupant was identified as PGA golfer, Eldrick ‘Tiger’ Woods. Mr. Woods was extricated from the wreck with the ‘jaws of life’ by Los Angeles County firefighters and paramedics, then transported to a local hospital by ambulance for his injuries.”

Woods, 45, was in California for a two-day content shoot with Golf Digest/GOLFTV after serving as host for the PGA Tour's Genesis Invitational over the weekend. Pictures surfaced on social media of Woods smiling with Dwayne Wade and David Spade at Rolling Hills Country Club on Monday, but with his movement still restricted, he did not hit balls or play any holes. The shoot involved Woods giving on-course lessons to a number of celebrities, but he mostly provided instruction and hit a few putts. He was in good spirits on Monday but did not arrive to the course for the second day of shooting because of the accident.

Velvet 02-23-2021 04:12 PM

Didn’t he hit a fire hydrant before? Maybe he should have a driver, classy guy that he is.

mike234 02-23-2021 04:36 PM

if I was tiger I would use the following phrase "I don't remember anything".

CWGUY 02-23-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1906775)
Didn’t he hit a fire hydrant before? Maybe he should have a driver, classy guy that he is.

:icon_wink: I'm sure he has lots of drivers......

John_W 02-23-2021 05:33 PM

Looks like he's in the right rough

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserv...2C2502%2C0%2C0

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uplo...1&h=383&crop=1

Topspinmo 02-23-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1906775)
Didn’t he hit a fire hydrant before? Maybe he should have a driver, classy guy that he is.


Looks like Mr. Woods can’t keep it out of the ruff. Yes, he probably needs driver, or vehicle that will stay between the lines if he can’t? On positive note at 7AM maybe the sun glare got him? If anybody ever popped round corner or topped hill and the sun straight in front of you you know what I mean?

walterray1 02-23-2021 08:25 PM

My response was to a specific reply. It did not come up that way. Better yet it applies to most of the posts on this topic. Pathetic at best.

Kenswing 02-23-2021 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 1906859)
My response was to a specific reply. It did not come up that way. Better yet it applies to most of the posts on this topic. Pathetic at best.

Click on the "Quote post" or "Reply with Quote" button so we know who you're replying to. :coolsmiley:

Taltarzac725 02-23-2021 08:47 PM

Sad to hear that. I will wait for more details to come out.

Buckeyephan 02-23-2021 09:05 PM

My in-laws used to live in Rolling Hills Estates many years ago. Hawthorne Blvd is extremely steep and winds a lot. They said there were cars that couldn’t make it up the incline and they wore out brakes coming down the road. It requires paying attention at all times. Driving on a strange road with an unfamiliar car makes things even more of a challenge. Wishing him all the best for a complete recovery.

stanley 02-23-2021 09:07 PM

Nothing to see here......move along......

Jayhawk 02-23-2021 09:48 PM

Elin hit him 7 times with a 9-iron.

She said, "put me down for a 5."

Taltarzac725 02-23-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeyephan (Post 1906868)
My in-laws used to live in Rolling Hills Estates many years ago. Hawthorne Blvd is extremely steep and winds a lot. They said there were cars that couldn’t make it up the incline and they wore out brakes coming down the road. It requires paying attention at all times. Driving on a strange road with an unfamiliar car makes things even more of a challenge. Wishing him all the best for a complete recovery.

Thanks for putting some empathy into this strange mix.

He is a great golfer. That's about the only known fact right now.

larbud 02-24-2021 05:49 AM

[QUOTE=alwann;1906748]NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.[/QUOTE🤔🤔

Cobullymom 02-24-2021 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1906756)
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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period

tvbound 02-24-2021 06:17 AM

Few people in history have lived in the fishbowl that Tiger has lived in - all of his life. While he definitely has made some very poor personal choices, of which all too many seem to take great glee in pointing out (no need in getting into where a lot of that is coming from), he has also went through more physical issues to continue his sport than most. I'm just hoping that he can get to a point, where he can enjoy the rest of his life with his children and to lead a relatively pain-free existence. Get well soon Tiger.

Leadbone1 02-24-2021 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1906748)
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

Well I don’t know about the “poor guy can’t catch a break part “ Personally, I’m Tired of the Tiger Woods overkill on golf television. First of all he can no longer compete with these young guys. Yes he won a masters on a fluke because the guys that were leading all self imploded on the last nine holes. But it happened!
Other than that he’s pretty much been a non-entity. As for this accident I want to wait and hear more details about how you cross over two lanes and roll down a hill in broad daylight! unfortunately, with today’s media, we may never get the real story? No matter what hope he recovers.

Catalina36 02-24-2021 06:58 AM

A Pro Golfer getting all of this news media attention because of a car accident????

What about all of the Men and Woman that serve our country in the armed forces. There are many who get injured every day and we don't here anything about them. Tiger Woods who? Frankly I don't really give a damn about Tiger Woods. He is just a Pro Golfer who had a great career. Tell me more about the Men and Woman who serve our great country who sacrifice their life for our freedom and democracy. By the way, I am not a veteran. I just respect all of the veterans who served our country.

graciegirl 02-24-2021 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1906919)
You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period

His injuries appear to be much more than a "broken leg". I envisioned something akin to possible amputation. Awful stuff.

The tournament was sponsored by Genesis....and I had to look it up. It is Hyundai and Genesis is their latest model, touting all kinds of safety features. He was driving the 2021 model with the logo on the side when this happens. Talk about an advertising nightmare.

I had the distinct impression, from listening to his peers on The Golf Channel that he may indeed be fortunate to get out of this walking well.

On the issue of "holding judgement"; Tiger Woods has done some stellar golf in his career and has made some decisions that made people extremely disappointed in his behavior, including substance abuse and messing about with women while married.

I feel the same as Dean Florida with good reason. Anyone would feel compassion for his injuries. Tiger Woods is a brilliant man but he has his demons.

Leadbone1 02-24-2021 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 1906976)
A Pro Golfer getting all of this news media attention because of a car accident????

What about all of the Men and Woman that serve our country in the armed forces. There are many who get injured every day and we don't here anything about them. Tiger Woods who? Frankly I don't really give a damn about Tiger Woods. He is just a Pro Golfer who had a great career. Tell me more about the Men and Woman who serve our great country who sacrifice their life for our freedom and democracy. By the way, I am not a veteran. I just respect all of the veterans who served our country.

Thank you! I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately our society seems to make idols out of people that are really not idols at all. That would include professional athletes and Hollywood ?

Larchap49 02-24-2021 07:47 AM

Accident
 
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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1906802)

Report said he lost control and rolled several times. The front of that car is pushed back to the windshield. It looks like he had a head on with something very solid. That kind of damage does not come from a roll over. Hope he recovers quickly.

John_W 02-24-2021 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1906986)
The tournament was sponsored by Genesis....and I had to look it up. It is Hyundai and Genesis is their latest model, touting all kinds of safety features. He was driving the 2021 model with the logo on the side when this happens. Talk about an advertising nightmare...

All the Asian auto makers have luxury brands that are spun off into separate dealerships. Honda owns Acura, Toyota own Lexus and Nissan owns Infiniti. Hyundai took an existing name of a model and spun off into a separate brand.

You can look up a 2010 Genesis and it's a sports coupe sold by Hyundai dealers (shown below). They borrowed the name and put it on their luxury brand. I'm not sure if the coupe is still made, they came out with a Veloster about 2012 and that's been a Hyundai sports car, probably to replace the coupe.

https://static.autonation.com/actual...475_Q75_V4.jpg

jbrown132 02-24-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1906753)
It was nice seeing him out on the course with his son a few weeks back. While I agree that I'm sorry to see anyone get in an accident I'm going to withhold the Poor Tiger Part until the details emerge. Sorry but that's the way it works in my little world. I certainly hope he is going to be okay.

In watching a news conference last night given by the Chief of Police, he said that speed was the only contributing factor and that road is notorious for accidents. He was probably just going to fast and just lost control. I think at 7:30 in the morning I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Polar Bear 02-24-2021 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry chappel (Post 1907022)
Report said he lost control and rolled several times. The front of that car is pushed back to the windshield. It looks like he had a head on with something very solid. That kind of damage does not come from a roll over...

I was thinking the same thing, unless the roll over was an end over end for a bit.

camaguey48 02-24-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1906748)
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

Define poor in this instance.

DeanFL 02-24-2021 08:07 AM

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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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#19 Today, 05:53 AM Cobullymom

You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period.

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Well, it's now almost a day since Tiger's accident. LEO reports and info (apparently) indicate that he was not impaired and that these roads are extremely difficult to navigate and many crashes have occured there. There are also reports that Tiger was driving very fast thru the parking lot leading to these roads. And that he was late for his TV-shoot appointment. Two VERY fortunate matters - he WAS not impaired and that no one else was injured or worse.

Personally after driving many years, I have done a LOT of stupid things behind the wheel. I'd assume that goes for most of us here in TV. We're human.

As for empathy for "poor Tiger" - Absolutely 100% NOW. Now that most facts are out. Looks as if the surgeries on his leg are extreme and will take very long to recover with tough rehab. Who knows if he will ever be able to walk well let alone golf at a pro level again. A huge loss for Tiger personally, as well as golf fans. My mind goes to his family, and especially his son Charlie. I can't tell you how happy I was watching them play golf together. Very sad, and now Tiger's life makes a terrible stressful turn yet again.

BTW, lucky he was in a brand new midsize SUV with all the latest safety features. I find it confusing that his primary massive injury is to his RIGHT leg. Trying to imagine how and why this impact was localized. Certain that crash analysis will have volumes of info, and determine how. Glad he was in a solid vehicle...
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Polar Bear 02-24-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1906987)
Thank you! I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately our society seems to make idols out of people that are really not idols at all. That would include professional athletes and Hollywood ?

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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 1906976)
A Pro Golfer getting all of this news media attention because of a car accident????

What about all of the Men and Woman that serve our country in the armed forces...

IMO, those are two separate topics. It’s simply the world we live in. While I agree it’s often very over-the-top, I don’t think it reduces respect for our service men and woman. It certainly doesn’t for me.

blueash 02-24-2021 08:11 AM

There is additional information about Tiger. CNN reports that, contrary to a post on this site, the police report that the SUV saved his life with its safety features

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"I do think the fact that he was wearing a seat belt and that the vehicle safety features worked as designed by the manufacturer likely resulted in either reducing his injury or saving his life,"
The police on the scene also report that Tiger was lucid and no signs of impairment. He was on his way to filming a TV program.

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Deputies responding to Woods saw no evidence of impairment, Villanueva said, and they didn't ask hospital officials to take a blood draw, he said.
He had hardware inserted into a damaged lower leg

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Orthopedic trauma specialists inserted a rod into his tibia to stabilize both the tibia and fibula bones, stabilized the foot and ankle bones with a combination of screws and pins and relieved pressure to the muscle and soft-tissue of his leg by surgically releasing the covering of the muscle, Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anish Mahajan said in the statement.
I am always amazed that someone who doesn't care about a topic would come to a thread about that topic only to post that the topic doesn't deserve attention because other things are more important. If you want to hate Tiger because of his infidelity, that's fine. At least be consistent and have the same visceral hatred for all persons in public life with a well established history of adultery.

jbrown132 02-24-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1906940)
Well I don’t know about the “poor guy can’t catch a break part “ Personally, I’m Tired of the Tiger Woods overkill on golf television. First of all he can no longer compete with these young guys. Yes he won a masters on a fluke because the guys that were leading all self imploded on the last nine holes. But it happened!
Other than that he’s pretty much been a non-entity. As for this accident I want to wait and hear more details about how you cross over two lanes and roll down a hill in broad daylight! unfortunately, with today’s media, we may never get the real story? No matter what hope he recovers.

Personally, I never get tired of the Tiger phenomena. He is the best who has ever played this game and even Jack admits to this. He won the Masters because he managed the course far better than those who were in contention. This came from his knowledge and experience on that course. When he has been able to play constantly he has been competitive. Unfortunately, because of his physical limitations he has not been able to play on a regular basis and to play at that level you need to be playing regularly not once a month or just at the majors. Go TIGER!

richs631 02-24-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1906748)
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

I don’t like to see anyone get hurt, but how this guy does not have a driver (no pun intended) is beyond me

jimbo2012 02-24-2021 08:26 AM

that $35,000 car is POS the way it crushed to the windshield

His regular ride is a Porsche Carrera GT $450,000

He may have thought he was driving his car!

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...-s-986x603.jpg

John_W 02-24-2021 08:32 AM

I heard on Fox 35 last night that prior to leaving the road, he had crossed the centerline. So it was far more erratic than just going a little wide and jumping the curb. I thought, he was lucky not to hit another car going head-on in the other lane. With the time of 7:12am, it almost sounds like he fell asleep or something in the car distracted him. Maybe being in an unfamiliar car, a new brand, he was fumbling with the radio or something inside and got distracted.

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012
that $35,000 car is POS the way it crushed to the windshield

No $35,000 car, the base price for a 2021 Genesis SUV is $48,000 and the actual sale price on those can go up $70,000.

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...nesis-GV80.jpg

jabacon6669 02-24-2021 08:41 AM

I was in law enforcement for over 40 years, and would never speculate on the cause of such a horrific accident. I only hope the best for Tiger, yes he has had some personal issues over his life, but so has everyone. He has done so much for golf, and the charitable foundations that he is involved in. I'm glad to hear from those at the scene that he didn't appear to be impaired. I'm sure blood work, at the hospital will clarify that. That leaves two other possible causes. Mechanical failure, or Operator error. The experts on the accident reconstruction team will determine that. In, either cause, from my experience from what I saw of the scene, there was definitely excessive speed involved. Thank God no one else was involved. He will be very fortunate if he is able to walk correctly when all has healed, he'll need extensive therapy. Doubtful he'll ever compete at such a high level again. Maybe the Seniors, we'll see, he has a long road ahead, and everyone is different. I wish him well.

DeanFL 02-24-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1907072)
that $35,000 car is POS the way it crushed to the windshield

His regular ride is a Porsche Carrera GT $450,000

He may have thought he was driving his car!

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please stop. That's how they extricated him from the car - broke thru the windshield (per LEOs) with an axe and other implement. They also say that the entire passenger compartment/ safety cage was intact and saved his life. But it will be interesting to see why his right leg was so injured...

And, I'd believe Genesis SUV was probably more like $60K.
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graciegirl 02-24-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1907057)
There is additional information about Tiger. CNN reports that, contrary to a post on this site, the police report that the SUV saved his life with its safety features



The police on the scene also report that Tiger was lucid and no signs of impairment. He was on his way to filming a TV program.



He had hardware inserted into a damaged lower leg



I am always amazed that someone who doesn't care about a topic would come to a thread about that topic only to post that the topic doesn't deserve attention because other things are more important. If you want to hate Tiger because of his infidelity, that's fine. At least be consistent and have the same visceral hatred for all persons in public life with a well established history of adultery.

Here he was with everything I could dream of. A well deserved success in a business he had been trained for since being a toddler. But his "adultery" was really kinda over the top. It wasn't a dalliance with another leading lady, it appeared to me to be a kind of sport of it's own. We are all entitled to our views. Statistics show that fidelity in Marriage is not as common as it was at one time.

There is something about Tiger Woods that doesn't appeal to me. Maybe his down expression on a bad shot or club pounding after not getting it where he wanted it to go. One of the things in golf I most admire, and in life too, is going ahead, after a bad shot and keeping cool, concentrating on the next shot.

He never made me want to hang his picture in our office like the one we have there of Jack Nicklaus. I could easily point to Jack to our grandson over the years and say...you'd do well to be like him. ( He fainted each time a child was born.) I am so glad to see Tiger Woods pride in his son. (Who some say is a little smart mouthed to caddies etc.)

I have had this discussion here more than once and I am always surprised by the dedication to him. Much like a political figure.

JayK! 02-24-2021 09:11 AM

Don’t write him off yet.


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