Are we getting too Lax about virus??
 

Noticed we had 72 new cases in TV yesterday 2/24/21. Perhaps too many thing are being opened back up like it is all over. Very few people at squares are wearing masks, and social distancing is a thing of the past.
I will not be sucked back, even though I have both vaccinations. I will wear a mask and social distance when I can. I will not eat indoor at restaurants, and I will not go to events that do not require CDC compliances.

It's nice that you state your opinion. Mine is that you do what you like and I'll do what I like. I wear a mask where it's required and since the government doesn't own the air you breath(yet)I won't be wearing one out of doors and I avoid crowds except grocery shopping(and they require a mask-which I wear).

Oh yeah..."getting too lax?"....no.

No, just getting too tired from the ever-changing BS information the "experts" are feeding us daily.

Getting too lax, no, we have been too lax since the beginning. I am hopeful that as more people get vaccinated we will become safer and that things return to "normal"
I personally know several people who have died from the virus, and many others who became quite ill, so it is concerning to me.

Many of us now have been vaccinated and (right or wrong) have changed our behavior...go more places...wear mask where required (usually not when we are outdoors unless in close quarters).

So there are more people starting to expand their boundaries.

too lax since beginning with over half a million dead (some you know?) many lives could have been saved and can be saved now

What has changed in the last 60 days? The squares were open then with entertainment and tree lighting. Restaurants were open then including indoor dining. The pools were open then though maybe it was a little too cool for swimming. Some snowbirds were here then and even more are here now. And on December 26 there were 70 new cases reported in the Villages for a total of 2,083. What are the "too many things" that have reopened and caused a one-day case count to be the same as it was 60 days ago?

Today only 22 new cases. PANIC, PANIC, PANIC. Isolate , wear masks in your home, social distance even from your pets, don't watch the news and only drink distilled water. Wear at least 19 masks if you must venture outside while in your car and at least 30 if you are forced to exit the vehicle.

Do we have to wait until Covid is fully eradicated until we get back to Costco, Trader Joe's and dog poop threads ?? Every day it's the same thing over and over. Never thought I'd miss those topics so much. I guess it's good for TOTV advertising stats. Hey mods, how about a "Covid 24/7" forum section ?

Mask..mask...mask

Guess they have worked so much

But big brother said to wear them.

And sheeeple obeyed

And (right OR wrong) heeeeeeere we go again! :ohdear:

I drive by Havana late afternoon the other day and the parking lot was full with a line of people out the restaurant doors; stupidity gone to seed.....

We are sick of it. I have been eating inside restaurants I do not wear a mask walking around outside. Worse thing to do. I do not wear a mask riding in my golf cart. I do not wear a mask riding in my car. I have lived in The Villages since last March when everything close down. I have gone to stores, restaurants, bars, the squares and have not gotten sick. I am 58, my boyfriend is 69. Guess we are lucky.

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While you’re at it, please wear a mask while sleeping, showering, bike riding, in your golf cart and any time you are breathing.....that should cover it.....literally. Don’t ya think if masks worked the virus would be over by now???? I stopped wearing a mask months ago, after I realized I was being fed a bunch of BS. I’m going to live “freely”...for now.

Masks haven't been as effective as they should be simply because there are too many people who are resistant to wear them properly or wear them at all. We never had a chance here in America to get to the point that this virus would be over. Sad really.

Just hope your luck holds out.

How did you know they was in the villages? If you’re referring to the online N-ws site they most always say in area which may include 1 of three counties in villages or all of them?

Well????? IMO there no actual proof the napkin mask actually prevent anything. They may reduce odds in certain situations which IMO better than nothing. Now n95 or better mask if worn properly probably does better job. Other countries have more control and restrictions than USA, some are isolated with lot less population so there effectiveness is higher. China actually locked people in there apartments for Months. In free world that would never happen. Utube NTD china in focus.

Or possibly, or even probably, the masks that most people are wearing are not effective against the virus and they have an unfounded sense of safety.

Mass media alone without additional research and confirmation are dangerous to society.

20 more local COVID-19 deaths as outbreak hits staff at Coleman federal prison - Ocala-News.com

" On Saturday, 135 cases of the Coronavirus were reported at the Coleman federal prison, which sits on about 1,600 acres and as of 2010 was the largest correctional facility operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Those included 130 cases among staff members and five among inmates."

So now you’re saying that if we all wore masks properly, we could have ended the virus in America?!?
Funny, but didn’t you post this earlier today: “Of course the Universal masking and social distancing request was to slow the spread. No one ever said wearing masks would eradicate the virus.” 🤯🤯🤯

Oh my. I have posted many videos of how home made and store bought surgical masks are very effective for source control. Have you not seen any videos which demonstrate the usefullness of Universal masking? Been there. Done that. Not going to post any more. It is up to you to do the research now. Have fun watching those infra red cameras spelling it out for your eyes to see.

Good luck!

Yes, that was my post. How did you find that? I don't even remember which thread I posted that in. It isn't this one because I just checked.

Getting back to the business at hand.........What I believe I said was we would not be in this mess of a pandemic if EVERYONE wore masks and ALWAYS distanced from others. I do not believe I said "we could have ended the virus in America". Those are your words, not mine.

I'm not that naive to think this virus would or could have been eradicated by universal masking and distancing. Having said that, I truly believe we in America would be in a much better place at this time having a much better outcome than we have so far with this pandemic if everyone had followed the CDC guidelines from the get go. That is water under the bridge now and the collective attitude of many Americans will not allow us to pull ourselves out of this dreadful mess me are in. All my opinion, of course.


In addition, IMHO, it is embarrassing for us on the world stage, as Americans, to have fared so poorly with managing this pandemic. I'm very thankful for the vaccines which will allow us to see some semblance of normalcy in the future. We could not have done it without those life saving vaccines.

My son works at a car dealership in MA. Everyone was good until this week then 9 people out with various symptoms. You never know!

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Well, we are much better than..

Belgium
Italy
UK
Portugal

etc.

It's not the numbers. At a population of 332 Million we are going to have more actual cases. But, using mortality, as in deaths per million, we are at number 10.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 113,635,332 Cases and 2,521,112 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

The vaccine does not equal immunity. It only increases the odds that if and when you contract C-19 you won't die from it. We're going to be wearing face diapers for years. If not C-19, it'll be something else.

I hope that depression doesn't set in, be carefull.

With all the notice and warning the USA had, you should have been nowhere near the top of the list.
As for the UK, we, as usual, just F-upped with big time dithering in the initial stages, but lets face it, everyone is a genius with hindsight!

The short answer is yes. But hey this is TV fun capitol of Central Florida. Ain’t nobody gonna pee in my cornflakes. Live Free and Die!

Sounds like you should just stay home. The rest of us are getting back to normal life. So there were 72 new cases. It’s a virus! Sooner or later we’re all going to come in contact with it just like we did the flu virus or the cold virus. I personally am glad to see that people are losing the masks and starting to act like normal human beings again.

I suspect most of us are being smart, wearing masks in crowds, when shopping, etc. But those people at the Squares with no masks! Duh!

:bigbow:

Agreed! I was in the UK in Mid March last year when the first lockdowns happened watching all the news. The day we left was the first day of restaurant closings. March 20th maybe? Hindsight is a wonderful thing... :)

It amazes me that after so many months of getting information from scientists and health experts we still have to have this discussion about masks. All the experts tell us we need to wear masks until everyone is vaccinated so we can slow the spread and keep the virus mutations to a minimum. Its not rocket science, yet some people either just don't "get it" or are in denial. Hopefully they a tiny minority, for the good of the country.

Why does this idiotic rumor keep spreading????? Again, I challenge ANYONE to cite a reputable source for this nonsense.

Think of it this way-----why would all the "experts" be pushing the vaccines as the method of obtaining herd immunity and ending this pandemic if the vaccines did not confer immunity. Why spend billions on vaccines that only prevent "death" in the 0.3% of the people who would actually die from it. In fact, in a cold-hearted but social Darwinian model, why keep people who can spread the virus alive?

Yet , on just about every COVID thread, some yahoo pops up with the "the vaccine only decreases severity of illness and reduces the chance of death" Use your brains, please.

Not that I disagree with the bulk of that post, but could you please explain how masks reduce viral mutations?????? Fauci and company would love to know that.

:ohdear:You really have to stop publishing these facts.
It ruin the flow of $£%!!

Absolutely agree. We certainly don't deserve a trophy for the dismal standing we have in this global pandemic. IMHO, at the beginning of this pandemic it boils down to the lack of leadership and the total lack of good examples being set for the American people. I'm mad as hell about that!

This is my take......viruses need hosts to perpetuate their 'dirty deeds' and circulate in the population. Without hosts to give viruses the ability to replicate, then the mutations will not be able to occur. That is how my mind understands the process. Masking and distancing from others, in simple terms, minimizes the spread of the virus. So....in turn, the virus mutations are also minimized. No???? Please explain where I'm going wrong with my thinking if that is actually the case. I value your expertise.

I'm aware you are not a fan of masking and I'll never understand that because you are a physician so I've always been baffled by your stance on masking. I am grateful, though, that you feel distancing is excellent for virus mitigation.

I found this informative explanation about virus mutations..........

How Do Viruses Mutate and What it Means for a Vaccine? | Breakthroughs