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manaboutown 03-05-2021 09:40 AM

Obesity increases mortality from COVID-19
 
Obesity report: Covid-19 death rates 10 times higher in countries where most adults are overweight - CNN

Byte1 03-05-2021 11:54 AM

Fat is not healthy. :icon_wink:

Two Bills 03-05-2021 11:59 AM

Thin bears don't survive the winter!:icon_wink:

Byte1 03-05-2021 12:56 PM

Might be easier to list the countries where most adults are NOT overweight. :icon_wink:

LiverpoolWalrus 03-05-2021 01:00 PM

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Nucky 03-05-2021 01:10 PM

Thin is in but Fat is where it's at. :1rotfl:

Must be nice to sit in your Ivory Tower and Throw Stones.

What shortcoming do you have?

:boxing2::boxing2: :mademyday:

merrymini 03-06-2021 08:33 AM

The facts are being obese increases your chances of dying from covid. Just getting covid does not mean you are going to die. Recovery rate is about 99.5%. Just the facts ma’am.

dewilson58 03-06-2021 08:37 AM

CNN also reported if your left big toe nail grows faster than your right big toe nail, death rate is 18 times higher.

MOMOH 03-06-2021 08:46 AM

Why is everyone being so snarky? Use the article to help your loved ones under 65. The state is currently allowing vaccines for those under 65 with underlying conditions. Maybe they qualify and could get the vaccine earlier? Try to look on the bright side instead of seeing everything as an insult.

DAVES 03-06-2021 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MOMOH (Post 1911485)
Why is everyone being so snarky? Use the article to help your loved ones under 65. The state is currently allowing vaccines for those under 65 with underlying conditions. Maybe they qualify and could get the vaccine earlier? Try to look on the bright side instead of seeing everything as an insult.

Stress is proven to be hazardous to your health. Some of these stories are IN THE REAL WORLD, where I live simply ridiculous.

A story on CNN saying that Covid 19 is worse for fat people is a spin to fill air time.
What does it really mean? Perhaps, in countries where people are well fed you are more likely to receive medical care rather than being buried in a field or simple left at a dump.

I am 70 plus. Perhaps in perspective it is good that this is killing old people-us.
The plague for example took out half the people in Europe they were of all ages and that caused changes in society. We should we must deal with what is.

DIver0258 03-06-2021 09:02 AM

Increased Mortality
 
Good information for us weight challenged folks. Obesity increases many health issues, high blood pressure, risk of certain cancers, medical costs, diabetes, etc.... As a members of the fat folks club we just add this to our list of health related issues to help focus our attempt at a healthier lifestyle.

tvbound 03-06-2021 09:06 AM

The Health Effects of Overweight and Obesity | Healthy Weight, Nutrition, and Physical Activity | CDC

graciegirl 03-06-2021 09:13 AM

The largest factor in mortality from Covid-19 is age. We Americans are overweight, stop being superior and haughty.

95 Percent of Americans Killed by COVID Were 50+

allsport 03-06-2021 09:20 AM

There is no accurate data about the recovery rate so be careful what you quote. The actual facts are that 523,000 are dead in the USA from this virus and for them the recovery rate is zero.

LiverpoolWalrus 03-06-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MOMOH (Post 1911485)
Try to look on the bright side instead of seeing everything as an insult.

Sadly ain’t gonna happen on TOTV. Even if a poster says nothing insulting, you can count on it being followed by an insult eventually.

Tough crowd here. Welcome to America’s friendliest hometown.

LiverpoolWalrus 03-06-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1911497)
The largest factor in mortality from Covid-19 is age. We Americans are overweight, stop being superior and haughty.

Not all Americans are overweight. And not everyone who points this out is claiming superiority or being haughty.

graciegirl 03-06-2021 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1911538)
Not all Americans are overweight. And not everyone who points this out is claiming superiority or being haughty.

That is true...but most are and some are.

Nick B 03-06-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1911107)
Fat is not healthy. :icon_wink:

Lots of fat 80+ in the villages so.???

LiverpoolWalrus 03-06-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 1911549)
Lots of fat 80+ in the villages so.???

Makes me wonder if those who deny the adverse health effects of obesity (not saying that’s you necessarily, Nick) are the same ones who deny the danger of Covid.

Whatever the case, you can’t deny the benefits of optimism and positive thinking.

manaboutown 03-06-2021 10:44 AM

My intention in posting this study was simply to provide factual information on COVID-19. At my present age of 79 I am highly aware I am in a high mortality rate age group for COVID-19 and lead my life accordingly.

A couple days ago, three weeks after my first vaccination shot, I finally went in for a haircut. It had been 13 months and I looked like Albert Einstein on a bad hair day. It turns out my caution was warranted. The relatively young two barbers in the shop had gotten and recovered from COVID-19. The other, a man near my age, did not directly respond to my asking him if he had had it. He told me that around Thanksgiving he had had two surgeries removing one kidney and half of the other. Maybe that was from COVID-19, maybe it was not. I don't know. Two doctors I know working with COVID-19 patients tell me their hospitals never ran short of ventilators but they did on dialysis machines as the virus can cause kidney issues. BTW, the barber who had the kidney surgery is probably 40 pounds overweight.

Topspinmo 03-06-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1911473)
The facts are being obese increases your chances of dying from covid. Just getting covid does not mean you are going to die. Recovery rate is about 99.5%. Just the facts ma’am.

Fasts? Obesity increases chance of dying, smoking increases chance of dying, drinking alcohol increases chance of dying. Now add Covid to the equation and it increases chance of dying. Facts; old people die even if the never smoked , drank, overweight, or had Covid.

Topspinmo 03-06-2021 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1911561)
My intention in posting this study was simply to provide factual information on COVID-19. At my present age of 79 I am highly aware I am in a high mortality rate age group for COVID-19 and lead my life accordingly.

A couple days ago, three weeks after my first vaccination shot, I finally went in for a haircut. It had been 13 months and I looked like Albert Einstein on a bad hair day. It turns out my caution was warranted. The relatively young two barbers in the shop had gotten and recovered from COVID-19. The other, a man near my age, did not directly respond to my asking him if he had had it. He told me that around Thanksgiving he had had two surgeries removing one kidney and half of the other. Maybe that was from COVID-19, maybe it was not. I don't know. Two doctors I know working with COVID-19 patients tell me their hospitals never ran short of ventilators but they did on dialysis machines as the virus can cause kidney issues. BTW, the barber who had the kidney surgery is probably 40 pounds overweight.


I’ve been cutting my own hair for 40 years. But, I’m not the man about town. :icon_wink:

Velvet 03-06-2021 11:30 PM

Back in March last year a renown weight loss surgeon observed that his obese patients who worked very hard to lose their weight, were dropping like flies from Covid. He posted a video explaining how Covid kills:

Mar. 29, 2020 — Dr. Duc Vuong, the World's #1 Weight Loss Surgeon and author, explains why the obese population are at increased risk....

MorTech 03-07-2021 03:04 AM

Unhealthy people have a higher risk of dying from a virus.
In other news: Where's muh beer?

stan the man 03-08-2021 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1911544)
That is true...but most are and some are.

Now Now Gracie

Joe V. 03-08-2021 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1911861)
Back in March last year a renown weight loss surgeon observed that his obese patients who worked very hard to lose their weight, were dropping like flies from Covid. He posted a video explaining how Covid kills:

Mar. 29, 2020 — Dr. Duc Vuong, the World's #1 Weight Loss Surgeon and author, explains why the obese population are at increased risk....


According to vitals.com, a user rating site fueled by patients and customers. Not everyone agrees with you this guy is the "World's #1 Weightloss Surgeon"

Narcissist Posted on February 10th, 2021:


Dr. Duc Vuong

Arrogant and rude money grabber that will nickel and dime you to death. When you decline a scheme he gets ANGRY and calls names. Very childish.

Posted on April 6th, 2020

Full of himself. He’s a mean jerk.

Joe C. 03-09-2021 07:55 AM

The CDC has a report that accounts for all the announced Covid deaths for the past year, and actually admits that only 6% of these deaths were directly from Covid-19, and they go on to list the other 94% saying that these fatalities were people who had serious underlying conditions (cancer, pneumonia, etc.), but had tested positive for the Covid-19.
I watched an Illinois governor's televised press conference, where when he was pressed into answering a Covid question, where he stumbled for an answer, and turned it over to their head medical representative who said that IF YOU TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19, and died in a car accident, it was counted as a Covid death. If you were in hospice care and expected to live for only a week or two, and had tested positive, your death was counted as a Covid death. If you had tested positive and died from any other situation, it was counted as a Covid death, and that the state of Illinois will continue this practice.
So how can we believe the media, or for that matter the CDC? Yesterday they announced that if you have had the vaccine, that you don't really need to wear a mask. Last week they said that you do.
So I'm cynical. While I do believe that Covid does spread quickly, and more people catch it than they do the flu, the mortality rate is exaggerated to the 'nth degree. I also believe that has been politicized to the detriment of this country. I also believe "follow the $$$".

LiverpoolWalrus 03-09-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1913016)
The CDC has a report that accounts for all the announced Covid deaths for the past year, and actually admits that only 6% of these deaths were directly from Covid-19, and they go on to list the other 94% saying that these fatalities were people who had serious underlying conditions (cancer, pneumonia, etc.), but had tested positive for the Covid-19.
I watched an Illinois governor's televised press conference, where when he was pressed into answering a Covid question, where he stumbled for an answer, and turned it over to their head medical representative who said that IF YOU TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19, and died in a car accident, it was counted as a Covid death. If you were in hospice care and expected to live for only a week or two, and had tested positive, your death was counted as a Covid death. If you had tested positive and died from any other situation, it was counted as a Covid death, and that the state of Illinois will continue this practice.
So how can we believe the media, or for that matter the CDC? Yesterday they announced that if you have had the vaccine, that you don't really need to wear a mask. Last week they said that you do.
So I'm cynical. While I do believe that Covid does spread quickly, and more people catch it than they do the flu, the mortality rate is exaggerated to the 'nth degree. I also believe that has been politicized to the detriment of this country. I also believe "follow the $$$".

One of our favorite responses on this board is “source please.”

tuccillo 03-09-2021 10:32 AM

Check out the number of excess deaths on the CDC website. Since the number of deaths, regardless of the reason, is normally pretty consistent from year to year, an increase in the number of deaths (excess deaths) in 2020 is attributable, either directly or indirectly, to the coronavirus. The number of excess deaths since the pandemic started is about 500,000. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a drop in total deaths ( from what would be the normal number) over the next couple of years. The virus has killed a bunch of older people before their time.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1913016)
The CDC has a report that accounts for all the announced Covid deaths for the past year, and actually admits that only 6% of these deaths were directly from Covid-19, and they go on to list the other 94% saying that these fatalities were people who had serious underlying conditions (cancer, pneumonia, etc.), but had tested positive for the Covid-19.
I watched an Illinois governor's televised press conference, where when he was pressed into answering a Covid question, where he stumbled for an answer, and turned it over to their head medical representative who said that IF YOU TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19, and died in a car accident, it was counted as a Covid death. If you were in hospice care and expected to live for only a week or two, and had tested positive, your death was counted as a Covid death. If you had tested positive and died from any other situation, it was counted as a Covid death, and that the state of Illinois will continue this practice.
So how can we believe the media, or for that matter the CDC? Yesterday they announced that if you have had the vaccine, that you don't really need to wear a mask. Last week they said that you do.
So I'm cynical. While I do believe that Covid does spread quickly, and more people catch it than they do the flu, the mortality rate is exaggerated to the 'nth degree. I also believe that has been politicized to the detriment of this country. I also believe "follow the $$$".


Topspinmo 03-09-2021 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1911558)
Makes me wonder if those who deny the adverse health effects of obesity (not saying that’s you necessarily, Nick) are the same ones who deny the danger of Covid.

Whatever the case, you can’t deny the benefits of optimism and positive thinking.


Weight easy to put on, hard as hail to loose, and it must always come back. Now add can’t stop eating, can’t exercise , can’t hardly walk 10 yards, weight not going anywhere.

Topspinmo 03-09-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1911497)
The largest factor in mortality from Covid-19 is age. We Americans are overweight, stop being superior and haughty.

95 Percent of Americans Killed by COVID Were 50+

I agree, if go by WHO standards, at 6 foot my weight suppose to be 165-170. I’m considered overweight at 175. But, over weight at 190 by below standards. Which considered me too thin at 165 and unhealthily.

Calculate your BMI, correctly rated according to age and sex

Topspinmo 03-09-2021 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1911538)
Not all Americans are overweight. And not everyone who points this out is claiming superiority or being haughty.


By WHO standards we are considered overweight.

Nucky 03-09-2021 12:22 PM

I was 165 lbs at birth. I spent the last 30 years trying to get rid of the demon weight. I even had a Gastric Bypass 14 years ago. I think I want a refund.

Facts are Facts and this one hurts but it's true. The extra weight does NOTHING good for you. Stressing about losing weight doesn't help you either. I wish I had committed myself more early on to be successful with keeping the weight off. I didn't. I've lost over 50 lbs during the Pandemic. Big Deal.

If today is my day to go for the big ride then I leave here grateful for every experience I've had. The good and the bad. I think that's called life.

It was the Damn Meatball Sangwiches at Wawa and Culver's Concrete Mixers and all the great restaurants in The Villages falt. Not really I own it all. Look what it took for me to listen. Nobody held me down and force-fed me a spoonful.

I was told by my primary Doctor at the beginning of this entire mess that if I get Covid I'm done. I listened to him and have been a model citizen ever since.

Stay Safe and Take Care.

Villageswimmer 03-09-2021 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1913253)
I was 165 lbs at birth. I spent the last 30 years trying to get rid of the demon weight. I even had a Gastric Bypass 14 years ago. I think I want a refund.

Facts are Facts and this one hurts but it's true. The extra weight does NOTHING good for you. Stressing about losing weight doesn't help you either. I wish I had committed myself more early on to be successful with keeping the weight off. I didn't. I've lost over 50 lbs during the Pandemic. Big Deal.

If today is my day to go for the big ride then I leave here grateful for every experience I've had. The good and the bad. I think that's called life.

It was the Damn Meatball Sangwiches at Wawa and Culver's Concrete Mixers and all the great restaurants in The Villages falt. Not really I own it all. Look what it took for me to listen. Nobody held me down and force-fed me a spoonful.

I was told by my primary Doctor at the beginning of this entire mess that if I get Covid I'm done. I listened to him and have been a model citizen ever since.

Stay Safe and Take Care.


Fifty pounds IS a big deal! Congratulations!


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