Denmark, Norway, Iceland suspend AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine over blood clotting
 

Denmark, Norway, Iceland suspend AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine over blood clotting
- Reuters, March 11, 2021

CNN just published this report from Reuters:
Denmark, Norway and Iceland on Thursday hit pause on the use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine following reports of patients developing blood clots after receiving the shot.

Authorities in Denmark suspended the use of the vaccine for two weeks after a 60-year-old woman who received the shot developed a blood clot and died. She was reportedly given a shot from the same vaccine that was used in Austria, where authorities announced Monday they would stop vaccinations following the death of a nurse who developed blood coagulation problems days after being vaccinated. A second woman who received a vaccine from the batch was also hospitalized after developing a pulmonary embolism and is recovering.

Iceland and Norway followed suit Thursday as an investigation into the reports is being conducted by Europe’s medicine regulator, European Medicines Agency (EMA). Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg and Latvia have also suspended vaccinations. Italy also said it would stop the use.

The Norwegian Institute of Public Health also noted there had been reported cases of blood clots shortly after receiving Covid-19 vaccinations in Norway but "mainly in the elderly where there is often another underlying disease as well."

Spain's Public Health Commission announced Thursday that it was delaying the vaccination of people aged between 55 and 65 years old with the AstraZeneca vaccine until "there is a full review and conclusion of side effects by the European Medicines Agency (EMA)", according to a commission statement issued on Thursday evening.

AstraZeneca said the safety of its vaccine had been studied extensively in clinical trials and met the stringent efficacy and safety standards required by regulators. - End of News Story
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In case you missed my earlier article explaining the reasoning as to why I was not going to be vaccinated, here is the short version...

These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.”

The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

Bear in mind when you are being told that these vaccines are safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.

My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC

Hopefully there will be no more severe effects resulting from any of the new COVID vaccines. Given the high rate of drug recalls by the FDA, I doubt it! Those agreeing to be vaccinated should realize that in actuality, they are the volunteer test subjects in what are likely the largest drug trials in world history.

David H. Dallas, RN, ASN, EMT-Paramedic (retired)
Village of Bradford

Note: Many are amused that I quote a mainstream news source when in the past I have been arguing the validity of their stories. However, since so may people take the word of CNN, MSNBC, etc. as the gospel truth & use those sources to refute my views, I thought a bit of Turnabout is Fair Play would be appropriate.

The article gives two examples of blood clotting, and tens of millions have been vaccinated using the AZ vaccine worldwide. Doesn't look like a trend. No indication the vaccine is causative. 2.6 million people in the world have died from COVID-19. Tough call. BTW, COVID-19 causes blood clots at a far higher rate than this.

Perspective.
The batch used has been withdrawn for further tests to check for contamination.
Tens of millions of the shots have been administerd with no adverse reactions.
There will be more isolated incidents across all vaccines, but the overwhelming good they do, far outways the minimal amount of damage they may cause.
No medication, vaccine is without some side effects.
One of my daughters, along with millions of others, is allergic to Penicillin, should we campaign for the withdrawal of antibiotics?

2 deaths possibly linked to the AstraZenica vaccine out of 20M doses administered, the U.S. is not using that vaccine, and 60 Covid deaths in one day in one State: I prefer my odds with the vaccine.

Many (all?) vaccines contain genetic material; they sometimes contain the virus itself.

Confirmation bias is a real thing (and it works both ways)

To those who are not following closely. Astra-Zenaca is NOT given in the U.S.

It seems that the poster who tells us he won't get the vaccine is showing us in triumph that this indicates he is right because one older woman died from clotting after taking a Vaccine we do not use in the U.S.

I say that every vaccine administered is one life saved from literally choking to death from lungs filled with a dense sticky mucous that keeps oxygen from circulating through your body.

69% of Americans say they'''ve gotten or plan to get COVID-19 vaccine: Poll - ABC News

Who said this?

I am so surprised that a person who likely doesn't believe any story from mainstream news sources is trying to scare us with a story from CNN, which according to many posters is completely unreliable and full of left wing propaganda. I do hope the OP will return with the conclusion after the investigation is done as to whether the vaccine was a causative agent of clotting or this is another example of post hoc ergo.

I just figured 'Turnabout is Fair Play' since everyone seems to take the word of CNN, MSNBC, etc. as gospel!

Yes, and it was a single batch number as well. And no conclusive proof.

Another mainstream news story that is linking the COVID vaccine to death.

OGDEN, Utah (KRON) – An autopsy has been ordered after a Utah mom died just four days after receiving the second dose of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, KUTV reports.

Kassidi Kurill, mother of one, got the vaccine due to her work as a surgical technician for several plastic surgeons, the local news outlet reports.

“She was absolutely fine with getting it. In fact, she told all of us, ‘It’s fine, you guys should all get it,’” her father, Alfred Hawley, told the outlet.

According to Kurill’s father, her arm was sore after the first shot and she experienced no other side effects, but it was when she received her second dose things went wrong.

Kurill landed in the ER, where “she was very, very sick, and her liver was not functioning,” Hawley told KUTV.

Kurill was transported to a trauma center in Murray where she was reportedly to receive a liver transplant. She died 30 hours after arriving at the hospital, KUTV reports.
-by: Alexa Mae Asperin
Posted: Mar 12, 2021 / 04:01 PM PST

Compared to the number of people that have been vaccinated your numbers are statistically invisible. Enough of the agenda driven posting already.

There is more to this story. What I found very compelling is that this woman's father decided to get his second Covid vaccine AFTER she died. He must have decided the benefit for him outweighed the risk of a vaccine that has been put in millions of arms without severe reactions or death.

Utah woman, 39, dies 4 days after 2nd dose of COVID-19 vaccine; autopsy ordered | KEYE

“Qualifications”
 

The stated “RN, ASN, EMT-Paramedic” qualifications are admirable. However, they do not constitute; nor are they a substitute for, the qualifications of a research virologist.

Dr. Vin Gupta, who is a REAL medical expert specializing in CV and CV vaccines, said that it is "VERY UNLIKELY" that the Astra-Zeneca vaccine caused the blood clotting in these examples. He said that it will likely be used by the anti-vaxxers as propaganda to promote their anti-science viewpoints. It will hurt Astra-Zeneca's reputation in the US during a time when every "tool in the toolbox" is needed. The Russians want to sell and use their own vaccine for vaccine diplomacy - so it is logical that they would like to shoot down the reputations of their vaccine competitors - and they have their team of propaganda hackers that can make it happen. So, they have the motivation and the tools, and the history of wanting to destabilize the world and especially the US - I conclude that they have done that. Also, the anti-vaxxers serve as a great wedge issue to split apart Americans!

IMO china bigger threat than Russia, not saying Russian not threat. But China created this virus crisis.

17+ million AZ vaccinations. Possibble 40 bad reactions.
Better odds than eating at Burger King!

So many of you are jumping all over the OP because of his well known anti-Covid vaccine opinion, actually his opinion that Covid is a nothing burger. But it is just as anti-scientific to disregard a potential rare but serious side effect of a vaccine. The numbers of reported clots are tiny compared with the number of vaccines given. It is incumbent that the responsible agencies conduct their analysis.

There are other options for vaccines and if it turns out this one has a side effect that exceeds the risk of other vaccines, then that needs to be considered in balancing risk vs benefit for each recipient.

For the vast majority of us (all of us in the US) the AstraZenica vaccine is NOT AN OPTION.

The OP SEEMS to be grasping at straws and using a minute number of possibly (likely?) unrelated events from a vaccine that is not even an option in the US in order to justify his anti-vaccine position and to warn/convince/frighten others into agreeing with him.

75% of US citizens say that they would take a vaccine that was considered safe by medical experts. In most countries of Europe, it is less at about 60%. That is why the Europeans were quick to block and further study the AstraZeneca vaccine. Italy has a large anti-vaxxer attitude and that is a major reason that their cases are high and INCREASING, while right now US cases are decreasing and lower on a per 100,000 basis than Italy. Interestingly, Sweden which was extolled early on for its trial of "herd immunity" now has a HUGE problem, a high number of cases and they are INCREASING. Remember ALL the posts about how much "smarter" Sweden was than the US. Look at the numbers now!

Good point, had forgotten about Sweden.

JHU site appears to be down today but as of three days ago, Sweden's death per capita was better than US, Italy, and the UK and was about the same as Brazil. Comparing the country to US states, Sweden is doing better than NY, CA, FL, CT, ND, and SD and about the same as MD and MN.

Had they taken the same approach as all of those we would say they were doing pretty well. Given that they took a much more hands-off approach, they seem to have come through very well.

We'll see what the stats look like when the JHU site comes back up.

Where I got my information, it was CLEARLY stated that Sweden was one of the worse in Europe. And way worse than the US. So, one of us is wrong and if I thought it was me, I would research it more. Which I don't and which I won't. So, on the SLIM chance that I am wrong, I will say a SLIM sorry.

Where did you get your information and what was the metric that was "way worse than the US"?

As stated, my information came from the JHU COVID-19 Map. Absolute number of deaths, CFR, and deaths per capita (population numbers from worldometers or statista) all favor Sweden.

But don't take my word for it, actually do some research.

Now the review of clotting issues is complete and the vaccine has been found safe. There are no more clotting issue in vaccine recipients than would be expected by random chance. That means that people who did not get a vaccine have the same rate of clots as people who get it. Will people hear about this outcome or just remember the news stories about the risk of clots. We all know how that will end.

Just read this morning that USA "donating" 4 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccine to Canada and Mexico. Hmmm.....Coincidence?

Possibly, but the US is also sitting on all those doses with no use for them in the near term. The US has ordered more than enough of the other vaccines for everyone in the country and AstraZeneca has not yet applied for the EUA to use this vaccine in the US. If other countries need it and can make use of it and we don't need it then why not make it available? Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long to release it.

The Oxford/Astra Zenica has been put down on several occasions by European Politicians as revenge for Brexit, especially by the French, because their vaccine didn't work.
The stories were perpetuated by other Pharma Companies because of the low price of the AZ vaccine compared to their prices.
There have been side effects with other brands of the vaccine, but with none of the very public scrutiny.
Considering the number of official tests and clearances done on the AZ vaccine, it is probably one of the safest vaccines out there!

Thank you for your wise assessment of this issue.

Our daughter and husband received Astra-Zenaca yesterday in London.

It has not yet been approved by the U.S. health agencies.

Our eldest daughter, and most of my friends have had the AZ. vaccine. None have had any side effect apart from a sore arm, or a headache.
Apart from an early crop of Brussel Sprouts growing from our ears, the wife and I have had no ill effects from the Pfizer jabs either!:icon_wink:

Please stop with the conspiracy theories or produce links that "other Pharma Companies" are spreading stories. You made that up or got it from some unreliable source. These reports were created as part of the normal process which we also have in the US of reporting any and all reactions to medications to a federal agency. This is how the clotting cases were detected in several European countries. It was not because some Pfizer spy was blind calling all AZ recipients to see if they could gin up panic. Your accusation is outrageous.

I thought it was quite a good theory.

Well, Wild Bill as I have mentioned in some of my other posts, I do NOT, NOT, NOT go out of my way to quote sources - as others seem to have a FETISH about. I am not a professional Journalist. This is a pukey little discussion group about opinions mostly. If you choose to submit articles to Scientific American up to their standards for publication - so be it! I PURPOSEFULLY do NOT, NOT put links and prove sources when I write in this forum. It would take too much time and take all the small amount of joy that I might get out of writing MY OPINION here! If MY opinion, which I have said that I get from CASUALLY watching TV and reading - is NOT good enough for some people to deem to read - then they should FOREGO reading MY stuff. I do NOT watch TV with a pen to take notes and research any or all of MY opinions. And note that on THIS forum and in this polarized opinion environment, if I said that I read something in the NY Times then 60% of the people would say that that is a no-good commie newspaper and disregard what I wrote just from that. And if I said that I saw it on Tucker Carlson then 40% of the people hear would automatically say to disregard that as lies.

So, I will continue with my personal policy of NOT quoting sources. And I WILL show links NO MORE FOREVER !!!!!!