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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-18-2021 08:47 AM

Dishwasher Problem
 
I was emptying my dishwasher this morning and noticed that several of the items had a soap film on them. One pot still had food residue in the bottom.

I use a recommended rinse aid. Is there something else I could be doing? Does it need to be cleaned?

JohnN 03-18-2021 09:02 AM

I suggest you have your spouse clean them! (jk)

villagetinker 03-18-2021 09:06 AM

Despite what dishwasher mfgs and soap companies claim, these do not always remove ALL of the food residue, we typically go over pots and pans with a sponge before going into the dish washer. As for the soap film, I have no idea unless you may have accidentally used a different wash setting? I would continue to use and watch results, if this continues, you may have a failure in the control system and a rinse cycle or similar is not functioning.

Jima64 03-18-2021 09:14 AM

Have you cleaned the filter trap/ screen lately inside the cleaning compartment?

John Mayes 03-18-2021 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1917476)
I was emptying my dishwasher this morning and noticed that several of the items had a soap film on them. One pot still had food residue in the bottom.

I use a recommended rinse aid. Is there something else I could be doing? Does it need to be cleaned?

By chance, was there water still in the bottom of the dishwasher?

tophcfa 03-18-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1917497)
Have you cleaned the filter trap/ screen lately inside the cleaning compartment?

My thoughts exactly.

davem4616 03-18-2021 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1917497)
Have you cleaned the filter trap/ screen lately inside the cleaning compartment?

ditto on taking out the filter and cleaning that, it can get nasty

decades ago I was advised to periodically run a cycle (dishwasher empty) with a couple of tablespoons of "Tang" instant breakfast drink....Tang was developed by NASA years ago and like 'duct tape' it has many uses...one of which is it cleans the inside of the dishwasher.

knowing that, I'm no longer interested in Tang as a breakfast drink lol

Bjeanj 03-18-2021 10:29 AM

If the items with soap film on them were glasses, and hand washing does not get the film off, it is possible that the glasses have been “etched”, which means that will always be there.

If it WAS soap film, then I have no idea other than what has been noted above.

bluedivergirl 03-18-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1917529)
ditto on taking out the filter and cleaning that, it can get nasty

decades ago I was advised to periodically run a cycle (dishwasher empty) with a couple of tablespoons of "Tang" instant breakfast drink....Tang was developed by NASA years ago and like 'duct tape' it has many uses...one of which is it cleans the inside of the dishwasher.

knowing that, I'm no longer interested in Tang as a breakfast drink lol

IIRC, Tang has a lot of citric acid. It can be a good acidic cleaner. Food ~ not so much.

La lamy 03-19-2021 05:09 AM

I've never been satisfied with dishwashers, and it runs for more than an hour!!! It takes about 5 seconds for me to hand wash any item, and no dirty dishes waiting to be badly washed.

PugMom 03-19-2021 05:31 AM

i'm 1 of those housewives that MUST rinse everything b4 it's put in, to avoid the issues you are having. are you using a different soap by chance? some work better than others

Girlcopper 03-19-2021 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1917476)
I was emptying my dishwasher this morning and noticed that several of the items had a soap film on them. One pot still had food residue in the bottom.

I use a recommended rinse aid. Is there something else I could be doing? Does it need to be cleaned?

Though you can supposedly put dishes with food still on them in the dishwasher, I never have. It takes a second to just rinse the dish first. I dont believe any dishwasher will remove stuck on food. As far as the soap film, i dont know

Nannyof3 03-19-2021 05:54 AM

to avoid a film on the glasses use either the "high temp wash or the sanitize rinse". the extra hot water will leave them sparkling. it may take a few washings using both to get rid of the film. you don't have to sanitize every load, also don't overload or leave dirty dishes sitting for a couple of days. we run the DW every day, if it's a small load we use the express cycle.

lonestar4ever@outlook.com 03-19-2021 06:07 AM

I add a little white vinegar to every load of dishes I wash. That seems to help a lot.

talktome 03-19-2021 06:27 AM

BEFORE running the washer turn the sink HOT water on only and let it run until it gets very hot. I do this every time before I push the buttons to start the machine to get that hot water running cycle going (read that somewhere and it works!). Also agree to clean out that filter periodically and also give those dishes a quick rinse before stacking in machine.

RJFortier 03-19-2021 06:32 AM

When you load your dishwasher make sure you don’t put anything in front of the soap dispenser door. Taller items such as cutting boards will block the water spray and will leave soap residue.

Surf Daddy 03-19-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RJFortier (Post 1917820)
When you load your dishwasher make sure you don’t put anything in front of the soap dispenser door. Taller items such as cutting boards will block the water spray and will leave soap residue.

If there is water remaining in your washer, pooled at the bottom, it is likely caused by clogged discharge lines. Either the rubber hose to the garbage disposal, or the pipe from there. This will restrict dirty water from being discharged. It will allow soapy water to continue to be sprayed.---signed--- the voice of experience.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com 03-19-2021 07:16 AM

You need to clean out the washer. There is, or should be, a filter in the middle on the bottom. Mine twists out, run it under water with a soft brush. Then put it back. see if that works.

jimkerr 03-19-2021 07:20 AM

When we installed a water softener, our problems went away including the film on the shower glass.

wganderson13 03-19-2021 07:22 AM

Do you run the hot water faucet to make sure you're getting hot water to the dishwasher? Clean out the screen & spray arm.

Bethwill 03-19-2021 07:29 AM

I have found a combination that has worked with the crummy water in TV. VERY HOT water, QUICK WASH cycle on the dishwasher (most water force inside dishwasher) and CASCADE PLATINUM PODS. No rinse agent needed. Also, the fuller the dishwasher, the cleaner the dishes.

retiredguy123 03-19-2021 07:36 AM

I don't have any problem with my dishwasher because I almost never use it. It's noisy, it takes too long, it doesn't dry the dishes, and it's too much trouble to load and unload. Mostly, I use paper plates, plastic cups, and plastic "silverware". I'm still using the same container of Cascade "Action pacs" that I bought five years ago. The original container had 39 pacs and I have 8 left. So, I'm good for another year.

DavidK 03-19-2021 07:41 AM

Getting Dishes Clean
 
I recommend using Procter & Gamble's Cascade in your dishwasher. It is the best dishwasher cleaning product we have found in our 47 years of marriage. Dishes, even in cheaper dishwashers, come out sparkling. We lightly rinse food items from plates and never have to add any rinse aid.

davephan 03-19-2021 07:54 AM

We used to have problems with our dishwasher not throughly cleaning dishes and glasses. The dishwasher also developed a yellow film inside the dishwasher. I had to manually clean the interior of the dishwasher every 6 to 12 months. It took hours to clean the dishwasher Interior surfaces. I’ve always rinsed the dishes and glasses before putting them in the dishwasher.

I found the solution, which drastically improved the dishwasher cleaning of the dishes and glasses, plus permanently eliminated that yellow film buildup inside the dishwasher. The solution was to switch to the Finish Max dishwasher tablets. They are sold at Costco and Walmart. It costs a little more than the cheap liquid dishwasher soap, but the cleaning job is far superior and I never have to clean the dishwasher interior surfaces again. Finish makes lower tier tablets, but I only use their “Max” tablets. Try using the Finish Max tablets and find out if that fixes your dishwasher cleaning problems.

Topspinmo 03-19-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1917529)
ditto on taking out the filter and cleaning that, it can get nasty

decades ago I was advised to periodically run a cycle (dishwasher empty) with a couple of tablespoons of "Tang" instant breakfast drink....Tang was developed by NASA years ago and like 'duct tape' it has many uses...one of which is it cleans the inside of the dishwasher.

knowing that, I'm no longer interested in Tang as a breakfast drink lol

I guess you don’t like citrus?

beeneyra 03-19-2021 07:57 AM

Most common problem is the cutoff valve not supplying enough water due to buildup. Replace the valve, less than $5.

ribil 03-19-2021 07:59 AM

It is possible that the spray bar has been clogged with bits of food blocking its holes and preventing the water distribution. It is also possible that the pump impeller has been worn down if you don’t scrape bones and the like from your dishes. Check the screen guard under the spray arms as well.

tfa4755 03-19-2021 08:04 AM

There is no filter to remove on Whirlpool

roadkingken57@yahoo.com 03-19-2021 08:06 AM

Dishwasher
 
Hello everyone with dishwasher dirt I recently solved my similar problem by troubleshooting the problem. My problem was the spinning cleaning arms (upper and lower) were both partially plugged and greatly reduced the water pressure and volume needed to clean the dishes. After removing and cleaning both arms (check owner’s manual for instructions) the dishwasher works again like new.

Laurel Maryland 03-19-2021 08:09 AM

Possible Etching
 
I agree with bjeanj about etching. Sometimes glassware and dishes that appear to have a soap film on them have really been “etched.” Etching is the erosion of the surface of glassware, causing tiny pits or scratches on the glass. To determine if your dishes are etched or if they are simply coated with mineral & soap build up: Put some lemon juice on a small area of the effected glassware & allow it soak for 5-10 minutes then wash it off. Allow the glass to dry. If that spot you put the lemon juice on is much cleaner than rest of the glass than it is not etched & can be restored. If the spot you put the lemon on looks unchanged then it is most likely etched and cannot be restored.

crash 03-19-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1917476)
I was emptying my dishwasher this morning and noticed that several of the items had a soap film on them. One pot still had food residue in the bottom.

I use a recommended rinse aid. Is there something else I could be doing? Does it need to be cleaned?

Check the filter at the bottom it may be clogged and then the water doesn’t circulate through the sprayers.

pgoodley 03-19-2021 08:22 AM

Are you sure you put in dishwasher soap? I forgot one time and got the same results you're describing. As I unloaded the dishes I couldn't figure out why they looked so nasty, then I remembered. NO SOAP!

Tomptomp 03-19-2021 09:24 AM

In a past life I had an appliance repair business. You didn’t say if the items that didn’t rinse properly were on the top or bottom rack. The only thing I can suggest is that you spin the impeller,s with your hand. They should be able to make several revolutions freely and easily. If they “hop” or bounce then they will not disperse the water effectively.
There is a bushing in the center of the impeller that sometimes wares out causing the water to spray incorrectly or not at all.

65Proff 03-19-2021 09:45 AM

Try using the pod dishwasher detergent rather than liquid. Also make sure your dishwasher is set to normal not quick wash. Hope this helps.

Nazdad 03-19-2021 09:48 AM

Spray arm not turning caused by blocked holes in the spray arm or blocked by an item in dishwasher or not enough water

New Englander 03-19-2021 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfa4755 (Post 1917901)
There is no filter to remove on Whirlpool

Yes there is.

doecats 03-19-2021 10:55 AM

put 2 to 3 ounces of white vinegar in the dishwasher before you start ,spot free and all residue removed plus it cleans dishwasher

Marty94 03-19-2021 11:34 AM

Not all Cascade products are equal
 
I bought a new dishwasher and was displeased after the first load. Dishes and glassware had a white film on them; silverware was badly spotted. I ran the same load through a second time with the same result. I didn’t understand why so I got out the manual and it stated for best results to use Cascade Platinum pods and rinse aid. I had been using Cascade Complete with my older machine and just figured it would be the same. It was not. I bought the pods and it solved the problem. My glassware comes out sparkling every time. The new machines have been engineered to conserve on water and I’m guessing P&G changed their pods to compliment this change. My older machine used more water and had a heating element that got the water super hot. The new machine doesn’t get the water quite as hot and uses very little water. Ergo, perhaps why they recommend this specific product.

drrichard 03-19-2021 02:19 PM

CLEAN Your Dishwasher
 
You need to CLEAN your dishwasher once a month with Dishwasher Magic (or similar product containing citric acid). We had similar problems ten years ago and our repairman said to clean it monthly and we have had NO problems since then.

emb2458 03-19-2021 02:40 PM

Had that problem. Was my garbage disposal. Water running thru it was backing up. Disposal was leaking and didn't know it. Replaced disposal. No more problems with dish washer


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