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DeanFL 03-27-2021 07:36 AM

Why isn't THIS Headline news across the USA?
 
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Whenever there is a 'mass shooting' it's huge news for a few days, as the nut killing 10 in the Boulder, CO store over a week ago and the Atlanta nut killing 8 around Massage stores. Yes horrible and deserves wide coverage.

But, DAYS after (last week) in a PUBLIX supermarket in Atlanta THIS ocurred>

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.
Police arrested a man with 6 guns


(CNN)An Instacart shopper who entered an Atlanta supermarket bathroom this week told police he saw an AR-15 style rifle and heard what he believed was the sound of someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.

The witness rushed out of the bathroom and notified staff at the Publix Supermarket. When police arrived soon after, they arrested a suspect as he was exiting the bathroom -- with six loaded guns in his possession.
The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Rico Marley, now faces a slew of charges related to the incident, which came just days after 10 people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

According to the police incident report, Russell was entering the men's restroom when he "heard clicking sounds from the bathroom stall."
"It sounded to him like someone was loading firearms," an Atlanta officer wrote. "He also told me that he saw an AR-15 style rifle leaned against the wall."

After arresting Marley, police recovered six firearms: a DPMS AR-15-style rifle, a 12-gauge Maverick Arms Modell 88 shotgun, three semi-automatic 9 mm pistols and a .38-caliber revolver. All of the weapons were loaded and the rifle, shotgun and three 9 mm pistols all had a round in the chamber, according to the police report.
The suspect, who was wearing body armor when he was arrested, had the four handguns in his clothing while the rifle and shotgun were being carried inside a bag, the report says.

Att is a police photo of his loaded weapons. Imagine if that guy didn't hear the noise in the bathroom and alert police? yikes.
My reasoning for posting this is:

Why wasn't this HUGE nationwide news?
I happened upon this on a Yahoo news feed a couple days ago, googled and found this CNN article, and some others.
...only supposition I could arrive at was the 'suspect', that he didn't fit the 'Media's' model of the "typical" mass shooter to exploit.

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall. Police arrested a man with 6 guns - CNN

Stu from NYC 03-27-2021 07:41 AM

The guy who stopped this is a hero

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-27-2021 08:22 AM

If this potential shooter knew that 75% of the people in that supermarket, including managers and employees, were armed he probably wouldn't have thought about what he was about to do.

The same for the Boulder shooter.

There are of course, a few of these idiots that want to die and would still try a mass shooting knowing that they would be killed, but if more people were armed, the damage would be minimized.

Decadeofdave 03-27-2021 08:37 AM

People, be aware of your surroundings like this citizen that heard the loading of the guns, take notice of what is around you. These potential perps are anywhere/everywhere, even the most affuential areas of the country.

blueash 03-27-2021 08:40 AM

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This story has been widely reported.
Man arrested after taking 6 guns, body armor into Atlanta Publix

Atlanta man arrested with 6 guns, body armor at Publix grocery store - ABC News

Man arrested at Atlanta grocery with six guns, body armor, police say

Heavily Armed Man Arrested in Atlanta Grocery Store - The New York Times

Man walked into Atlanta grocery store with five guns, body armor, police say | Fox News

The most important detail you omitted is that the police are having a problem finding any gun law that was broken as Georgia has no regulation on open carry of weapons or wearing of body armor. That is the biggest part of the story IMO.

He has been charged with "criminal attempt to commit a felony and six counts of possession of a firearm or knife during commission of or attempt to commit certain felonies." But there has been no publication that I have found of what felony they are alleging he was attempting to commit.

Here is what he had on him at the time of his arrest at Publix which I know is posted above, but not specifically labelled as what was on the man.

MrFlorida 03-27-2021 08:48 AM

As I always tell my wife, beware of your surroundings, the guy behind you in line at the supermarket may be a crazy person.

John_W 03-27-2021 08:55 AM

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LiverpoolWalrus 03-27-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1921651)
If this potential shooter knew that 75% of the people in that supermarket, including managers and employees, were armed he probably wouldn't have thought about what he was about to do.

The same for the Boulder shooter.

There are of course, a few of these idiots that want to die and would still try a mass shooting knowing that they would be killed, but if more people were armed, the damage would be minimized.

To be honest, I’m surprised to hear this from a John Lennon/Beatles fan.

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Boomer 03-27-2021 09:45 AM

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DeanFL 03-27-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1921688)

HLN was on a couple of mornings ago and I remember hearing that story. I also wondered why they didn't go into more detail or repeat the story. I lived in Atlanta for a year in 1988, and before that Savannah for a total of ten years over two different times. I can say, there is a lot of crazy people in Georgia, even more than Florida has, if you can believe that.

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EXACTLY my point. And I really do not want to bring the "R" matter into this, but when looking a bit deeply into this, can't help but see that.

This guy DOES NOT FIT the mass shooting guy the Media wants to promote. I may be cycnical, but IF he did - it would receive much more Press. Also per the CNN article, they said paramedics did a Mental evaluation. I MUST wonder, will the results of this and more psych tests be revealed at some time. Some mass shooters no doubt have a bias towards some, or what to make a name, but I would believe (and hope) that the majority are mentally ill.
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LiverpoolWalrus 03-27-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1921722)
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Some mass shooters no doubt have a bias towards some, or what to make a name, but I would believe (and hope) that the majority are mentally ill.
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Bingo! And that’s exactly where we should be focusing our attention, imo, as much or more than gun “control.”

But as long as mental health treatment remains stigmatized and a sign of supposed weakness, it’s not going to happen.

I’d like to see a full blown Marshall Plan and a flood of funding like MADD accomplished in the ‘80s, showing there’s no shame in seeking help, and making that help free and easily accessible.

Bay Kid 03-28-2021 09:22 AM

They are coming for our guns even though none of my guns have never killed anything.

Stu from NYC 03-28-2021 09:27 AM

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EXACTLY my point. And I really do not want to bring the "R" matter into this, but when looking a bit deeply into this, can't help but see that.

This guy DOES NOT FIT the mass shooting guy the Media wants to promote. I may be cycnical, but IF he did - it would receive much more Press. Also per the CNN article, they said paramedics did a Mental evaluation. I MUST wonder, will the results of this and more psych tests be revealed at some time. Some mass shooters no doubt have a bias towards some, or what to make a name, but I would believe (and hope) that the majority are mentally ill.
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Media only wants to promote crazy white guy who is not a muslim.

If they cannot pigeonhole them into that category will move on to the next one

billethkid 03-28-2021 09:33 AM

The seemingly stifling of open commentary, by far too many special interest groups, would not support "see something say something".

Justus 03-28-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1921663)
This story has been widely reported.
Man arrested after taking 6 guns, body armor into Atlanta Publix

Atlanta man arrested with 6 guns, body armor at Publix grocery store - ABC News

Man arrested at Atlanta grocery with six guns, body armor, police say

Heavily Armed Man Arrested in Atlanta Grocery Store - The New York Times

Man walked into Atlanta grocery store with five guns, body armor, police say | Fox News

The most important detail you omitted is that the police are having a problem finding any gun law that was broken as Georgia has no regulation on open carry of weapons or wearing of body armor. That is the biggest part of the story IMO.

He has been charged with "criminal attempt to commit a felony and six counts of possession of a firearm or knife during commission of or attempt to commit certain felonies." But there has been no publication that I have found of what felony they are alleging he was attempting to commit.

Here is what he had on him at the time of his arrest at Publix which I know is posted above, but not specifically labelled as what was on the man.

If gun control laws were the answer, Detroit would be the safest place in the country.

canyonblue 03-28-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1922133)
If gun control laws were the answer, Detroit would be the safest place in the country.

Detroit only regulates guns, it's Chicago that bans them. If anything you would think that Capone taught them that banning something won't stop it.

Number 10 GI 03-28-2021 10:25 AM

With the vitriolic discourse in this country is it no wonder we have mentally unstable people going off and committing these types of acts? When you have political leaders encouraging physical confrontation with those they politically/morally/ideologically disagree with, what do you expect will happen? Then there is the media that thrives on stirring the pot getting people worked up and angry hoping to create an act of violence so they can have a "breaking news" moment. Guns, bludgeons, knives, axes and other objects are not evil talismen that whisper, kill someone, to the individual holding them. They are just tools. Eliminating the tools won't change anything as long as the hate mongers keep preaching their evil, they are the problem that needs to be dealt with.

LiverpoolWalrus 03-28-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1922114)
They are coming for our guns even though none of my guns have never killed anything.

Yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

DeanFL 03-28-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922178)
Yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

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or "Just like" they came for our apples and made oranges.
(apples & oranges commentary above)...
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LiverpoolWalrus 03-28-2021 12:33 PM

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or "Just like" they came for our apples and made oranges.
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I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

Bucco 03-28-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922190)
I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

Your logic is clear.....your point is a great one.

Remember, these people don't think.....they simply repeat what they are told to think.

They rely on being the "victim" on every issue. No discussion, no nothing except that they believe everyone is out to get them.

DeanFL 03-28-2021 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922190)
I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

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I 'hear ya'. ... cars safer with seat belts. guns safer with trigger locks. apples<>apples.

STILL both can be killers if not used properly.

Cars will be deadly if used by drunk or drugged (or whatever) drivers.
Guns will be deadly if used by criminal/'bad folks' (or whatever) shooters.

...all I can say is...IF I am in a situation where, in a store their is a nutty 'shooter', I sure hope there is a trained, armed indivudual in the store too - take out the bad guy before damage is done and waiting for LEOs.
I can't be that guy...no guns, my choice. Just glad it IS a choice.
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LiverpoolWalrus 03-28-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1922195)
Your logic is clear.....your point is a great one.

Remember, these people don't think.....they simply repeat what they are told to think.

They rely on being the "victim" on every issue. No discussion, no nothing except that they believe everyone is out to get them.

Well said, Bucco. I think cable news is partly responsible for this. I've heard educated commentators (I'm sure everyone has) who have said things like "they're coming for our guns," when they know darn well that's not true. It's called propaganda, or pandering to the base, because that's what the base wants to hear. Then when they hear it enough (or maybe even only once), then they believe it.

It's the same with them parroting "socialism" this and "socialism" that. It's because the cable news commentators are saying it's socialism or a person is a socialist, not because it IS socialism or the person is a socialist.

Just the other day I heard a respected commentator say "if we still have to wear masks after getting vaccinated, then why bother to get vaccinated"? My jaw dropped. He's smarter than that. He knew the answer. He was just playing the role of his audience members. He was telling them what they wanted to hear, even though he knew better.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-28-2021 03:25 PM

1. It WAS headline news nationwide.
2. The reason it wasn't made as big a deal as shootings was:
2a) he never shot the gun or even aimed it at anyone.
2b) the only law he actually broke was carrying the gun in public WHILE IT WAS LOADED. You don't need a permit of any kind to carry a rifle in Georgia. He had the right to bring his weapon into Publix, he had the right to carry ammo on his person. He even had the right to load it in the bathroom. What he didn't have the right to do, was leave the bathroom with the loaded rifle in his possession. That's it. Barely a slap on the wrist.

LiverpoolWalrus 03-28-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1922212)
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I 'hear ya'. ... cars safer with seat belts. guns safer with trigger locks. apples<>apples.

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But just as importantly:

Cars will be safer and nobody's taking a car you own = Guns will be safer and nobody's taking a gun you own

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-28-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922237)
Well said, Bucco. I think cable news is partly responsible for this. I've heard educated commentators (I'm sure everyone has) who have said things like "they're coming for our guns," when they know darn well that's not true. It's called propaganda, or pandering to the base, because that's what the base wants to hear. Then when they hear it enough (or maybe even only once), then they believe it.

It's the same with them parroting "socialism" this and "socialism" that. It's because the cable news commentators are saying it's socialism or a person is a socialist, not because it IS socialism or the person is a socialist.

Just the other day I heard a respected commentator say "if we still have to wear masks after getting vaccinated, then why bother to get vaccinated"? My jaw dropped. He's smarter than that. He knew the answer. He was just playing the role of his audience members. He was telling them what they wanted to hear, even though he knew better.

He wasn't telling them what they want to hear. He was dictating to them what they are required to believe. It's called propaganda and it's very effective (obviously).

5:00somewhere 03-28-2021 03:32 PM

No Gun Control Laws Will Ever Work
 
It's been proven time and time again, gun control laws do not work. Killing someone is against the law in every state in the U.S. If a criminal is going to break that law, why would he obey ANY gun law?

Chicago has the toughest gun laws in our country and they have the highest homicide rate too. It's not guns, it's criminals.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.

I know that nothing has ever been written that would change the mind of anyone on either side of this issue. But I keep hoping that if both sides really tried to find an intelligent solution and stop politicizing the issue, progress can be made. Let's try to reestablish the two parent family to begin. Let's increase funding for mental health issues. Let's start thinking outside the box on this.

tvbound 03-28-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922178)
I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922178)
Yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

It's proved to be great for business for the gun and ammo manufacturers though, to keep scaring the easily gullible people by constantly saying it.

Bucco 03-28-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922237)
Well said, Bucco. I think cable news is partly responsible for this. I've heard educated commentators (I'm sure everyone has) who have said things like "they're coming for our guns," when they know darn well that's not true. It's called propaganda, or pandering to the base, because that's what the base wants to hear. Then when they hear it enough (or maybe even only once), then they believe it.

It's the same with them parroting "socialism" this and "socialism" that. It's because the cable news commentators are saying it's socialism or a person is a socialist, not because it IS socialism or the person is a socialist.

Just the other day I heard a respected commentator say "if we still have to wear masks after getting vaccinated, then why bother to get vaccinated"? My jaw dropped. He's smarter than that. He knew the answer. He was just playing the role of his audience members. He was telling them what they wanted to hear, even though he knew better.

You are spot on.

The age of disinformation is blooming.....the age of having zero accountability is here.....the buzz words are sickening in most cases, and are consistent.

Most importantly, the age of simply mouthing what we are told to say, and ceasing to use our brains to determine how we feel by understanding the issue. Generalities used to slander has replaced using facts to show a point of view. When confronted, make yourself the victim.

Those crying for headlines only want the headline they want, not truth or even Justice.

This was news but instead of applauding the person who alerted authority, or applauding those officials who handled this so professionally, some are simply looking for new thread to go in their direction.

This story should have generated a discussion of folks being able to assemble an arsenal like that in their home. Not sure about anyone else, but that was my first thought.

Bucco 03-28-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1922240)
He wasn't telling them what they want to hear. He was dictating to them what they are required to believe. It's called propaganda and it's very effective (obviously).

I hope you are wrong.

I always maintained that those who simply blindly mouth others words are simpletons, but cannot think of a word strong enough to describe anyone who feels obliged to believe words from whatever they consider "on high"

But, then again, a mental review of the news might validate strongly what you say

LiverpoolWalrus 03-28-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1922244)
the age of simply mouthing what we are told to say, and ceasing to use our brains to determine how we feel by understanding the issue.

I think I know whose fault this is:

SATAN

He’s brainwashing us all.

DeanFL 03-28-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1922238)
1. It WAS headline news nationwide.
2. The reason it wasn't made as big a deal as shootings was:
2a) he never shot the gun or even aimed it at anyone.
2b) the only law he actually broke was carrying the gun in public WHILE IT WAS LOADED. You don't need a permit of any kind to carry a rifle in Georgia. He had the right to bring his weapon into Publix, he had the right to carry ammo on his person. He even had the right to load it in the bathroom. What he didn't have the right to do, was leave the bathroom with the loaded rifle in his possession. That's it. Barely a slap on the wrist.

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OMG!!! I'm sorry - I MUST SAY "WHAT IF???" and from all acounts THAT IF WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. We MUST warn other cooks out there re consequences!!!!!!
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OrangeBlossomBaby 03-28-2021 06:13 PM

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OMG!!! I'm sorry - I MUST SAY "WHAT IF???" and from all acounts THAT IF WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. We MUST warn other cooks out there re consequences!!!!!!
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What if what? Put some verbs in your sentences please; I don't speak thought-sense. If by "cooks" you mean "crooks" or "kooks" (either works), they either know already what the consequences are, or they don't care. That's what makes them crooks (or kooks, as the case may be).

Regardless, this DID make the national news. Your question was "why didn't this make the National news?" and you continued to criticize the lack of national news. It made the National news, you are criticizing the existence of something that doesn't exist (which is to say - a conspiracy by media to cover up something that wasn't covered up).

Topspinmo 03-28-2021 06:13 PM

Mental case or dumber than gooney bird. How do I know? Brings 6 unloaded guns and ammo in. Go to rest room makes lot noise loading taking his time so police can show up and arrest him. Who cares 6 gun and none of them loaded? another thing how do you get 6 guns and all the ammo into business? Mental case or dumber that gooney bird ������?

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-28-2021 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1922296)
Mental case or dumber than gooney bird. How do I know? Brings 6 unloaded guns and ammo in. Go to both room makes lot noise loading taking his time so police can show up and arrest him. Who cares 6 gun and none of them loaded? another thing how do you get 6 guns and all the ammo into business? Mental case or dumber that gooney bird ������?

They get it in, because it it not illegal to do so. It is LEGAL to bring guns and ammo into businesses in Georgia. Perfectly, totally, completely legal. No permit required.

Number 10 GI 03-28-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by liverpoolwalrus (Post 1922178)
yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

what?????????

Number 10 GI 03-28-2021 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1922190)
I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

So far beyond false that it is meaningless.

Number 10 GI 03-28-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1922195)
Your logic is clear.....your point is a great one.

Remember, these people don't think.....they simply repeat what they are told to think.

They rely on being the "victim" on every issue. No discussion, no nothing except that they believe everyone is out to get them.

I'm so glad that we have intellectually superior people like you to tell us how to think and what is the truth. The word "Elitist" comes to mind.

Topspinmo 03-28-2021 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1922332)
I'm so glad that we have intellectually superior people like you to tell us how to think and what is the truth. The word "Elitist" comes to mind.

You’re post will get deleted like mine when calling him out.

Topspinmo 03-28-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1922297)
They get it in, because it it not illegal to do so. It is LEGAL to bring guns and ammo into businesses in Georgia. Perfectly, totally, completely legal. No permit required.

Was not shooting range or GUN store. I highly doubt you can walk in to any business with guns. How do you carry that many guns without being noticed? The guy was nut job.


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