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graciegirl 04-19-2021 06:46 AM

What is your guess as to percentage of Villagers who are vaccinated against Covid-19?
 
Heard on the news that half the country has been vaccinated. I saw a map with deep colors showing counties with the most vaccination. Sumter county stands out right away on a map of Florida.

I wonder what percentage of Villagers have been vaccinated.

I am guessing about 70%.

I am proud of our careful thinking of ourselves and others.

Tmarkwald 04-19-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1932020)
Heard on the news that half the country has been vaccinated. I saw a map with deep colors showing counties with the most vaccination. Sumter county stands out right away on a map of Florida.

I wonder what percentage of Villagers have been vaccinated.

I am guessing about 70%.

I am proud of our careful thinking of ourselves and others.

I agree. Lots of smart people here..

Neils 04-19-2021 06:50 AM

Gracie
I heard a comment on TV last week saying that 80% of Sumter county residents had a least one shot. So my guess forTV would be 85%

Stu from NYC 04-19-2021 08:01 AM

Might even be 90%. Happy to see clubs and other activities reopening.

Went to a club breakfast just over a week ago and you had to tell the organizer you have the vaccine before being ok to go. Was very happy to see that.

bobdeb 04-19-2021 09:02 AM

And maybe we'll get to do it all over again in 6 months?

Tmarkwald 04-19-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1932127)
And maybe we'll get to do it all over again in 6 months?

Sure, who cares? Better to be immune than dead.

tuccillo 04-19-2021 09:39 AM

67% of Sumter County has had 1 shot, 54% has had 2 shots as of 4/18.

Sumter County, FL COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker | theadvertiser.com

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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1932028)
Gracie
I heard a comment on TV last week saying that 80% of Sumter county residents had a least one shot. So my guess forTV would be 85%


OrangeBlossomBaby 04-19-2021 09:42 AM

My guess is that at least 70% have had their first shot or the J&J shot, in Sumter County. I think the reason for that, is because it has a LOT of people who are older than 65, which means they had access to a vaccine longer than anyone else. On the other hand, there are neighborhoods and sections of the county that are NOT Villages, where families live, who have NOT had access to the vaccine until the past few weeks. So they are less likely to have had their first shot by now, than the seniors.

In addition, up until this month, there were THOUSANDS more seniors here, than there are now. Those seniors also have had their shots. But they're not here anymore. They count in the category of "vaccines distributed in this county" but they don't count as "people who are living here right now who have been vaccinated."

So I don't think the percentage is going to mean much, if you're counting something as vague as "how many people in Sumter County have been vaccinated." If you mean how many seniors, probably a lot more than 60%. If you mean all people who are living in the county at the present moment, I'd say closer to 60%. If you mean ONLY villagers, and no other residents, I'd say probably closer to 80%.

Mortal1 04-19-2021 09:50 AM

My careful thinking...
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1932020)
Heard on the news that half the country has been vaccinated. I saw a map with deep colors showing counties with the most vaccination. Sumter county stands out right away on a map of Florida.

I wonder what percentage of Villagers have been vaccinated.

I am guessing about 70%.

I am proud of our careful thinking of ourselves and others.

is that I sneeze and cough into my arm...take mine and my wife's temp every day and I don't go into crowded areas like the town squares or stores. I wash my hands frequently and carry hand sanitizer(75% alcohol)which I use after coughing, sneezing and handling objects others might have touched.

Nope...haven't got the vaccine yet(I'm 67...wife is 65). We don't plan to and I do not consider our decision to be NOT careful thinking or ourselves and others. Since you can still infect others if vaccinated I don't see the need for your comment. Especially since I view your posts as the most common sense and caring of all posters.

Tmarkwald 04-19-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1932168)
Since you can still infect others if vaccinated I don't see the need.

And this is why it still goes on.

Rather than believing the science, we have bullheaded people who think they are somehow special or immune.

You can lead a horse to water....

Some things you just cannot change. Common sense being one of them I suppose.

Swoop 04-19-2021 10:17 AM

According to the CDC 87% of those who have been hospitalized or died from Covid were obese or overweight. Also according to the CDC, on average, those who died from Covid had 2.6 comorbidities. The most common being diabetes, lung disease, heart disease and hypertension. As someone who is not overweight and has none of the common preexisting conditions, my risk level is extremely low. Therefore I will most likely opt not to take the vaccine.

Altavia 04-19-2021 10:32 AM

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SUMTER COUNTY, FLORIDA

In Sumter County, Florida, 80,527 people (60.8%) have received at least one dose and 65,351 (49.4%) are fully vaccinated. Fewer than 0.001% of people who have received a dose experienced a severe adverse reaction, none of them deadly.

bobdeb 04-19-2021 02:28 PM

I'm fully vaccinated, but I do know that there are those who are waiting to see how safe it is in their minds before doing so. And they are far more afraid of you than you of them.

There's a scary mentality out there.

Altavia 04-19-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1932182)
According to the CDC 87% of those who have been hospitalized or died from Covid were obese or overweight. Also according to the CDC, on average, those who died from Covid had 2.6 comorbidities. The most common being diabetes, lung disease, heart disease and hypertension. As someone who is not overweight and has none of the common preexisting conditions, my risk level is extremely low. Therefore I will most likely opt not to take the vaccine.

You may want to do some research into the 10% of COVID survivors who become long haulers.

I know several relatively young healthy people who survived COVID but are now miserable suffering brain fog, Chronic fatigue, horrible headaches and other symptoms.

What It Means to Be a Coronavirus “Long-Hauler” – Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic

Swoop 04-19-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1932283)
You may want to do some research into the 10% of COVID survivors who become long haulers.

I know several relatively young healthy people who survived COVID but are now miserable suffering brain fog, Chronic fatigue, horrible headaches and other symptoms.

What It Means to Be a Coronavirus “Long-Hauler” – Health Essentials from Cleveland Clinic

I know more than 20 people who have had the virus and none have had lingering symptoms. Per the link you provided: “Our experience shows most long-haulers tend to fall into the high risk category”...

charmed59 04-19-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1932159)
My guess is that at least 70% have had their first shot or the J&J shot, in Sumter County. I think the reason for that, is because it has a LOT of people who are older than 65, which means they had access to a vaccine longer than anyone else. On the other hand, there are neighborhoods and sections of the county that are NOT Villages, where families live, who have NOT had access to the vaccine until the past few weeks. So they are less likely to have had their first shot by now, than the seniors.

In addition, up until this month, there were THOUSANDS more seniors here, than there are now. Those seniors also have had their shots. But they're not here anymore. They count in the category of "vaccines distributed in this county" but they don't count as "people who are living here right now who have been vaccinated."

So I don't think the percentage is going to mean much, if you're counting something as vague as "how many people in Sumter County have been vaccinated." If you mean how many seniors, probably a lot more than 60%. If you mean all people who are living in the county at the present moment, I'd say closer to 60%. If you mean ONLY villagers, and no other residents, I'd say probably closer to 80%.

According to the Florida Department of Health, Florida vaccinated just over 190,000 seasonal folks who live in Florida in the winter but have a permanent addresses elsewhere. They are not counted as part of the 80,000 residents of Sumter County that have been vaccinated.

There are approximately 124,000 permanent residents of Sumter County over the age of 16. So about 64% of those residents have at least one vaccine, 52% are fully vaccinated.

If you look at the number for those 55 and older in Sumter County, those numbers are 80% at least one vaccine, 67% fully vaccinated. I’d guess that is also the percentage for The Villages.

justjim 04-19-2021 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1932028)
Gracie
I heard a comment on TV last week saying that 80% of Sumter county residents had a least one shot. So my guess forTV would be 85%

Remember not all of TV is in Sumter - there is Lake and Marion counties to consider. This makes it a SWAG. Maybe 60% has one shot and 55% both shots. Obviously this changes each week. Just a guess. :ho:

camaguey48 04-20-2021 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1932301)
According to the Florida Department of Health, Florida vaccinated just over 190,000 seasonal folks who live in Florida in the winter but have a permanent addresses elsewhere. They are not counted as part of the 80,000 residents of Sumter County that have been vaccinated.

There are approximately 124,000 permanent residents of Sumter County over the age of 16. So about 64% of those residents have at least one vaccine, 52% are fully vaccinated.

If you look at the number for those 55 and older in Sumter County, those numbers are 80% at least one vaccine, 67% fully vaccinated. I’d guess that is also the percentage for The Villages.

There's a lot of guessing going on. Ask the good Doctor.

Byte1 04-20-2021 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1932127)
And maybe we'll get to do it all over again in 6 months?

A question that has been circulating in regards to a booster shot in 6 months is "WHY?" Why should anyone bother to get the booster IF our gov insists that we should continue to wear masks? I wonder about this myself, considering the fact that I really had to think about whether or not I wanted the shots in the first place. Now, after coercing many reluctant folks to get the shots, they are being told that they must continue to wear their masks? AND on top of that, they must get a booster after only six months? I empathize with those that find this hard to swallow.

Sorry about going slightly off topic of how many in the Villages have their shots, but I too have been thinking about the six month booster and whether or not there will be as high a turn out for the second stage of this saga. Not sure that our stats are going to show as well on the next turnout, UNLESS we receive some assurances from those on high that they are going to provide a light at the end of this long tunnel.

Byte1 04-20-2021 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 1932353)
So why does the Governor of the state forbid the use of vaccine passports? He is out of touch thats why.

Thank goodness!

nick demis 04-20-2021 05:22 AM

Does this mean we have reached herd immunity? Can we do away with masks? Can things open up fully again? Just asking.

Petersweeney 04-20-2021 05:46 AM

You know, on the bright side, no one is dying from the flu anymore or pneumonia or whatever

drgoofy 04-20-2021 05:52 AM

Variants!
 
The variants are constantly evolving! That's the reason for continued mask wearing and the potential need for a booster. Because we are dealing with a "novel" virus, there are changing parameters.

scottiesrgreat@gmail.com 04-20-2021 06:03 AM

I have NEVER been afraid of Covid. The only reason I wear/wore a mask and distanced is to be thoughtful for those who have been afraid.

Wasting this past year ++ in the final years of my life on earth has been the biggest challenge of my long life. Ok, I have a stupid rant..... I am sure people think they are being kind when they say “Stay Safe!” - but, it makes me cringe inside when anyone says it in the context of Covid. My mom & dad used to tell me to “be safe” and I find myself telling my friends and loved ones to be safe - but it is in reference to things like - staying safe from bad drivers, pick-pockets, cyber-criminals, slippery streets during a ice/snow storm, embarking on a long trip, going up a ladder to clean gutters ....

Anyway, sorry for rambling - if knowing makes you happy - yes, I got the vaccinations. I have absolutely no desire to know if you have gotten the vaccine. I will wear a mask - where I must. I will, however, choose to patronize businesses that do not mandate masks (please don’t get in a tizzy - it is my choice, if you feel different - that is your choice).

If masks remain mandatory - I will not waste my time getting any more Covid vaccinations. Again, don’t get in a tizzy - my choice.

‘Stay Sane!!’ :-) :-) :-) I think this is much more appropriate :-). But - again - it is just what I think. Say and do what you want to!

shelley77 04-20-2021 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1932173)
And this is why it still goes on.

Rather than believing the science, we have bullheaded people who think they are somehow special or immune.

You can lead a horse to water....

Some things you just cannot change. Common sense being one of them I suppose.

Here's some Science:

Abstract
Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ efficacy is lacking, adverse physiological, psychological and health effects are established. Is has been hypothesized that facemasks have compromised safety and efficacy profile and should be avoided from use. The current article comprehensively summarizes scientific evidences with respect to wearing facemasks in the COVID-19 era, providing prosper information for public health and decisions making.

Here's the whole study, if you're really interested in the "Science"

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:15 AM

It looks as if the USA will be added to the list of those countries mandating a "burqa" in the near future. Hmm, I wonder if an additional mask is required of those wearing the traditional "burqa."
Conspiracy theory?
Conspiracy: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."
What difference does it make on stats that tell us how many are inoculated, when the information provides no value as to when or how we will ever get back to the norm? When is ENOUGH really considered ENOUGH?

donassaid 04-20-2021 06:17 AM

Or maybe lots of naive people. I wouldn't call taking an "experimental vaccine" that has caused the death of numerous healthy people and severe symptoms in many others to avoid a virus with a 99% recovery rate, particularly smart. To each his own. Guess i won't be attending any events that "require proof of vaccination".

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:19 AM

"As of this morning Florida is second in the nation behind Michigan in new Covid cases. Not good. "

New cases is highly doubtful. Every positive or false positive is counted as a new case. One person requiring proof of a "negative" test result in order to return to work will be counted several times as a new case. If you want REAL stats, count how many died FROM covid, not WITH covid. The numbers are skewed......why? Power?

graciegirl 04-20-2021 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by coconutmama (Post 1932387)
As of this morning Florida is second in the nation behind Michigan in new Covid cases. Not good.

Florida has the third highest population in the U.S.

Michigan has half the population of Florida. states in order of population 2020 - Bing


Home - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:21 AM

" I wouldn't call taking an "experimental vaccine" that has caused the death of numerous healthy people and severe symptoms in many others to avoid a virus with a 99% recovery rate, particularly smart."

It's NOT "experimental." "Numerous?" How many were saved by the vaccination? Probably more than "numerous."

sallyg 04-20-2021 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1932127)
And maybe we'll get to do it all over again in 6 months?

No problem. Whatever it takes. I will gladly get another vaccination, esp if it protects against variants.

graciegirl 04-20-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1932391)
It looks as if the USA will be added to the list of those countries mandating a "burqa" in the near future. Hmm, I wonder if an additional mask is required of those wearing the traditional "burqa."
Conspiracy theory?
Conspiracy: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."
What difference does it make on stats that tell us how many are inoculated, when the information provides no value as to when or how we will ever get back to the norm? When is ENOUGH really considered ENOUGH?

Actually, this is the accepted definition of conspiracy theory;

"A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable. The term has a negative connotation, implying that the appeal to a conspiracy is based on prejudice or insufficient evidence. A conspiracy theory is not simply a conspiracy; instead, it refers to a hypothesized conspiracy with specific characteristics, such as an opposition to the mainstream consensus among those people who are qualified to evaluate its accuracy."

Enough is enough when many, many, many people are no longer dying every day from the Coronavirus called Covid-19. I hear it is awful to be suffocated with thick, solid mucous, blocking your ability to breathe. Alone, without the person who loves you most. The danger of course is higher, the older we are. It isn't someone doing something bad to us on purpose. It is a terrible accident of nature and we have no recourse but to do all of the things we as mankind have done. It is just common sense in the face of very real and dangerous virus.

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 1932398)
No problem. Whatever it takes. I will gladly get another vaccination, esp if it protects against variants.


Hmmm, I wonder how many will complacently get multiple shots for "variants" and still quietly accept wearing a mask with no prediction on when they will be able to rid themselves of the hindrance in the future.

hrenner 04-20-2021 06:30 AM

Six month booster hoax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1932354)
A question that has been circulating in regards to a booster shot in 6 months is "WHY?" Why should anyone bother to get the booster IF our gov insists that we should continue to wear masks? I wonder about this myself, considering the fact that I really had to think about whether or not I wanted the shots in the first place. Now, after coercing many reluctant folks to get the shots, they are being told that they must continue to wear their masks? AND on top of that, they must get a booster after only six months? I empathize with those that find this hard to swallow.

Sorry about going slightly off topic of how many in the Villages have their shots, but I too have been thinking about the six month booster and whether or not there will be as high a turn out for the second stage of this saga. Not sure that our stats are going to show as well on the next turnout, UNLESS we receive some assurances from those on high that they are going to provide a light at the end of this long tunnel.

The study said that vaccine shots have only been studied for six months and they know it is effective for six months. After six months? It could be effective for years. The click bait headlines fooled you. Read the article!

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1932404)
Enough is enough when many, many, many people are no longer dying every day.


Oh? And when in our history has there been a time where "many, many people have not died "every day?" Being positive is one thing, but willingly accepting a vague promise of a return to normalcy with no sight of light at the end of the tunnel, might be construed as naive to some.
Not disagreeing with you. Just wondering when "enough" will really be "enough."

mrf6969 04-20-2021 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com (Post 1932381)
I have NEVER been afraid of Covid. The only reason I wear/wore a mask and distanced is to be thoughtful for those who have been afraid.

Wasting this past year ++ in the final years of my life on earth has been the biggest challenge of my long life. Ok, I have a stupid rant..... I am sure people think they are being kind when they say “Stay Safe!” - but, it makes me cringe inside when anyone says it in the context of Covid. My mom & dad used to tell me to “be safe” and I find myself telling my friends and loved ones to be safe - but it is in reference to things like - staying safe from bad drivers, pick-pockets, cyber-criminals, slippery streets during a ice/snow storm, embarking on a long trip, going up a ladder to clean gutters ....

Anyway, sorry for rambling - if knowing makes you happy - yes, I got the vaccinations. I have absolutely no desire to know if you have gotten the vaccine. I will wear a mask - where I must. I will, however, choose to patronize businesses that do not mandate masks (please don’t get in a tizzy - it is my choice, if you feel different - that is your choice).

If masks remain mandatory - I will not waste my time getting any more Covid vaccinations. Again, don’t get in a tizzy - my choice.

‘Stay Sane!!’ :-) :-) :-) I think this is much more appropriate :-). But - again - it is just what I think. Say and do what you want to!

Excellent! If people were being truthful I am sure a great majority would agree with how you feel. I know I do.

graciegirl 04-20-2021 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1932408)
Hmmm, I wonder how many will complacently get multiple shots for "variants" and still quietly accept wearing a mask with no prediction on when they will be able to rid themselves of the hindrance in the future.

Probably the same percentage that used birth control.

jeanninern@yahoo.com 04-20-2021 06:43 AM

However, if you do contract Covid-19 you may not die, but you could expose others to the virus who may not be so lucky.

Dasher0928 04-20-2021 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1932182)
According to the CDC 87% of those who have been hospitalized or died from Covid were obese or overweight. Also according to the CDC, on average, those who died from Covid had 2.6 comorbidities. The most common being diabetes, lung disease, heart disease and hypertension. As someone who is not overweight and has none of the common preexisting conditions, my risk level is extremely low. Therefore I will most likely opt not to take the vaccine.

And there are effective biological (medications) to treat the effects of the virus. I have a doctor who has a plan to treat promptly, in the unlikelihood I do contract the virus, rather than being told to go home and wait until problems develop causing the need for hospitalization.

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1932419)
Probably the same percentage that used birth control.


Not even apples and oranges. Not even fruit to veggies. Definitely not relevant.



I agree with the idea that has been posted many times that some will feel misled and not be so easily "coerced" into getting boosters for an illness that still requires one to wear a mask for an indefinite amount of time in the future. Some folks have survived a whole year in the worst of this virus without a vaccine. Not advising anyone to avoid getting their vaccinations, but I can definitely understand why some would be hesitant. I have mine and encourage everyone to think seriously about getting vaccinated. But, there are many questions that should be considered, rather than "going along" with peer pressure without weighing all the available information.


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