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GrumpyOldMan 05-07-2021 04:40 PM

Brownwood at night
 
Walked around Brownwood Square a little while last night and snapped a few shots. Totally new to B&W, so any suggestions on these would be greatly appreciated.

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JMintzer 05-07-2021 05:19 PM

Wonderful shots...

Stu from NYC 05-07-2021 05:57 PM

Where was everyone?

What time did you take the shots?

Boomer 05-07-2021 06:48 PM

I don't know anything about the technique of photography, but I love to see black and white shots. There is something about b&w that always gets my attention. Thank you.

Someone I know did a grouping of b&w photos of TV for a wall above a hall table in her foyer. She used simple, inexpensive frames and wide matting. There was something elegant about the display. Guests always seemed to notice and stop for a closer look. Those photos in the entry hall often started conversations.

Boomer

dalecrenshaw 05-07-2021 06:51 PM

Great photos. Nice job.

GrumpyOldMan 05-07-2021 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1940973)
Where was everyone?

What time did you take the shots?

There were a few people around, not many. I was there around 9:30 to 10:30 PM.

Velvet 05-07-2021 08:36 PM

A different way to see Brownwood. For example, I really thought the cowboy was doing something else ... given the expression on his face.

joseppe 05-08-2021 05:01 AM

All are good, however there are 4 that stand out for me. 2-Cowboy, 6-street, 7-street, 8-Sales ofc.

dblwyr 05-08-2021 05:16 AM

Lovely shots! Thank you for posting.

billlaur 05-08-2021 05:18 AM

Must be difficult to get the color out ?:pray:

Jewelz 05-08-2021 05:42 AM

I'm impressed!!!! Thanks for sharing!

ogutierrez29@icloud.com 05-08-2021 05:52 AM

Stunning pics!

linnea1107 05-08-2021 05:53 AM

Great photos. Thanks for sharing

Pdesensi 05-08-2021 06:37 AM

Great shots. Thanks for sharing

dewilson58 05-08-2021 06:45 AM

Very nice for a Grumpy Old Man.

Villages Kahuna 05-08-2021 06:45 AM

Nice shots. Remember, the viewer’s eye will always be drawn to the item or content that is noticeably brighter than the rest of the composition. Try “flipping” your photograph from front to back and see where your eye is initially drawn. If it’s not the part of your scene that you intended the viewer to be drawn to, then you need to reconsider composition.

Notsocrates 05-08-2021 06:55 AM

The contrast of these shots exceeds the range of your camera. Extreme bights and darks are washed out. There is a technique where you can use several exposures to grab detail at both ends and combine them for a better result..

Shansonmarx 05-08-2021 07:05 AM

I think they look great!!!!

forebubba 05-08-2021 07:37 AM

Great pictures

Syd2008 05-08-2021 07:37 AM

Not a photographer but live B&W and viewed these multiple times. Beautiful.

colorpixel 05-08-2021 07:56 AM

Great photos and use of depth of field....you may want to watch the contrast would be my only input but it could be my monitor?

jebartle 05-08-2021 08:03 AM

Grumpy, you are very talented. Atta boy!

jcgrether 05-08-2021 08:54 AM

Good Eye
 
You've got a good eye for interesting shots. I cut my teeth on B&W 50 years ago and got many different effects by varying the film speed and f stops. That doesn't help much today in the digital world with no film...but you should be able to play with f stops I'd think. Keep it up...!

BlackhawksFan 05-08-2021 09:14 AM

I have a couple questions.

Did you use a phone or dslr?
Was it shot in b/w or converted in post?
If converted was in a monochrome or true b/w conversion?

I ask about the conversion because I noticed the extemes previously noted as well.

jimjamuser 05-08-2021 09:30 AM

Dear Grumpy O. I liked the last one. The chains and entrance to the square. It had a long perspective! And balance!

BigHoss18 05-08-2021 09:36 AM

Great pics. Thanks for sharing. Check out YouTube pros like Tony and Chelsea Northrup, Greg Cazillo, and Mark Denney. They have superior videos and they’re easy to understand.

jimjamuser 05-08-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1941124)
Nice shots. Remember, the viewer’s eye will always be drawn to the item or content that is noticeably brighter than the rest of the composition. Try “flipping” your photograph from front to back and see where your eye is initially drawn. If it’s not the part of your scene that you intended the viewer to be drawn to, then you need to reconsider composition.

I have no idea what, "try flipping your photograph from front to back" means?????

GrumpyOldMan 05-08-2021 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1941242)
I have a couple questions.

Did you use a phone or dslr?
Was it shot in b/w or converted in post?
If converted was in a monochrome or true b/w conversion?

I ask about the conversion because I noticed the extemes previously noted as well.

I shoot with a DLSR (Nikon D7500).
The Nikon records color and I convert to B&W in post.
I use Capture One to convert to B&W. The process used involves adjusting the color components based on color theory. I start by setting each color component to contribute the following amount of its value Red 30%, Blue 11%, Green 59%, and their three. compliments Yellow 89%, Cyan 70%, Magenta 41%. Then I fiddle with it.

The blown highs are not a result of the conversion, they were blown in capture. The only way I could capture that range of light would be using HDR, and I don't "like" HDR.

So, I had to chose where I kept the detail and where I was willing to blow it. I wanted the blacks black, and no detail, I wanted the detail in the mid-levels, and I was willing to lose some detail in the lighting to get that.

If I lost any detail in the mid-levels, it was a mistake and not intentional. I am new at black and white and so I have a lot to learn. I was going for a more "Artistic" look instead of exposure accuracy.

Thank yiou

GrumpyOldMan 05-08-2021 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1941256)
I have no idea what, "try flipping your photograph from front to back" means?????

I believe the idea being suggested is to flip the photograph so it does not look like you composed it. Whether it is flipped vertically or horizontally shouldn't matter.

It is similar to an old drawing technique of looking at your subject upside down. It forces your brain to notice details.

GrumpyOldMan 05-08-2021 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1941124)
Nice shots. Remember, the viewer’s eye will always be drawn to the item or content that is noticeably brighter than the rest of the composition. Try “flipping” your photograph from front to back and see where your eye is initially drawn. If it’s not the part of your scene that you intended the viewer to be drawn to, then you need to reconsider composition.

Thank you, good suggestion!

richdell 05-08-2021 10:38 AM

Nice shots. It's been a while since I shot anything in black and white. I used to use Kodak Tri-x 400 film back in the day.

stanthomas44@gmail.com 05-08-2021 11:36 AM

They look great. Nice job.

JoMar 05-08-2021 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseppe (Post 1941046)
All are good, however there are 4 that stand out for me. 2-Cowboy, 6-street, 7-street, 8-Sales ofc.

Cowboy is Gary Morse.

Tsalla Apopka 05-08-2021 02:32 PM

Nice shots.
If you made slight changes in position I think you could block some of the washed out lights. For instance move a tad to the left and block the light behind the cowboys shoulder??
You could get real fancy and take multiple shots and merge in Photoshop?

lennythenet 05-08-2021 02:43 PM

Very nice! Love them in black and white. Thanks for sharing!

GrumpyOldMan 05-08-2021 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsalla Apopka (Post 1941359)
Nice shots.
If you made slight changes in position I think you could block some of the washed out lights. For instance move a tad to the left and block the light behind the cowboys shoulder??
You could get real fancy and take multiple shots and merge in Photoshop?

Do you mean to merge them for a panorama or merge them for an HDR exposure?

Yes, I need to pay more attention to backgrounds.

Thank you.

BlackhawksFan 05-09-2021 10:35 AM

Thanks for your reply

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1941271)
I shoot with a DLSR (Nikon D7500).
The Nikon records color and I convert to B&W in post.
I use Capture One to convert to B&W. The process used involves adjusting the color components based on color theory. I start by setting each color component to contribute the following amount of its value Red 30%, Blue 11%, Green 59%, and their three. compliments Yellow 89%, Cyan 70%, Magenta 41%. Then I fiddle with it.

The blown highs are not a result of the conversion, they were blown in capture. The only way I could capture that range of light would be using HDR, and I don't "like" HDR.

So, I had to chose where I kept the detail and where I was willing to blow it. I wanted the blacks black, and no detail, I wanted the detail in the mid-levels, and I was willing to lose some detail in the lighting to get that.

If I lost any detail in the mid-levels, it was a mistake and not intentional. I am new at black and white and so I have a lot to learn. I was going for a more "Artistic" look instead of exposure accuracy.

Thank yiou


GrumpyOldMan 05-09-2021 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 1941050)
Must be difficult to get the color out ?:pray:

I use Tide and hot water.

shortstack 05-09-2021 01:51 PM

My opinion regarding BW
 
I do not car for that old plow/disk thing, now the star burst thing above Town Dental sign.

shortstack 05-09-2021 01:52 PM

My opinion regarding BW
 
I do not care for that old plow/disk thing, now the star burst thing above Town Dental sign. Other things to me, look great.


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