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bobdeb 05-19-2021 05:49 PM

Jaquar Land Rover sales tank over quality issues
 
Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-19-2021 06:44 PM

Jaguar is owned by the Indian conglomerates Tata , if you buy your car in the USA it is most likely built in Coventry in England which is there main plant, a simple goggle would have shown that but that’s not the agenda also I lived in Hong Kong for 2 years the Chinese love jaguars and yes there is a plant there also

bobdeb 05-19-2021 07:00 PM

Yes, various plants, however North America sales still tanked.

And quality for what is expected to be a premier brand is questionable.

That was my 'agenda'. Sales ongoing now. Do your own research.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-19-2021 08:35 PM

So maybe you should have blamed the English and India I read it right the first time hmmmmm

manaboutown 05-19-2021 10:31 PM

Jaguars have never been reliable. I owned an XK 140 roadster while in college and of course loved it. The old story even back in the 1950s was you needed to carry you mechanic around in your trunk.

Land Rovers are very popular among people I know but I will stick to BMWs thank you very much!

Two Bills 05-20-2021 01:58 AM

Jags have always had looks, style and performance, but unfortunately quality control was never a factor in production.
Biggest step forward in quality control was when Ford took them over, but that marriage didn't last long.
Seems they have gone back to the old ways.
I love my Volvo!

Indydealmaker 05-20-2021 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1947298)
Jaguar is owned by the Indian conglomerates Tata , if you buy your car in the USA it is most likely built in Coventry in England which is there main plant, a simple goggle would have shown that but that’s not the agenda also I lived in Hong Kong for 2 years the Chinese love jaguars and yes there is a plant there also

I am all for any agenda that slams communism.

MandoMan 05-20-2021 05:38 AM

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Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

Given that a gigantic percentage of what is sold in WalMart is made in Communist China, as was my iPhone and iPad, that’s probably not the problem. Even when Land Rover and Jaguar were made in the UK, Consumer Reports gave them terrible ratings because of reliability. I consider a Land Rover a vehicle for those who want to look rich and don’t care that they are paying a huge amount for mediocrity. This year’s Land Rover rated 49 out of 100, and the Jaguar SUV rated 52. The Land Rover has a Reliability Score of 1 out of 5. (By comparison, the mediocre Jeep Grand Cherokee scores a 67 and has a Reliability score of 3 and the Jeep Compass a 39 with a Reliability score of 2.)

Back in the 50s and 60s, if you lived in Africa and drove off-road most of the time and didn’t mind a gas guzzler, a Land Rover was a sturdy vehicle, easily fixed. Think “Wild Kingdom” days, back when we were young. It hasn’t been worth buying in decades, and it is wildly expensive. Jaguars have always broken down a lot, despite their class and beauty.

BlackHarley 05-20-2021 05:56 AM

Buy a Jag, buy the best! Drive a mile and walk the rest!

WesMan 05-20-2021 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1947281)
Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

Leave them in China

Lil GTO 05-20-2021 06:15 AM

What many Buick drivers that drive Encore, and Envoy is that they’re made in communist China too. Still I see tones of them running around the Villages.

Chevy Trax their version of the Buick Encore is also made in China.

When I sold these brands and the manufactures announced that they would be manufacturing in China the first thing they said was that no Chinese produced vehicles would enter the U.S. but that that product was for the Asian markets specifically China.

The first thing they did was bring the Encore here for sale then Envoy, then Trax

And of course Cascada convertible dead seller is from Australia meant to sell against BMW, Audi and Mercedes. What a joke


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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1947281)
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ce the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.


Bay Kid 05-20-2021 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1947375)
Jaguars have never been reliable. I owned an XK 140 roadster while in college and of course loved it. The old story even back in the 1950s was you needed to carry you mechanic around in your trunk.

Land Rovers are very popular among people I know but I will stick to BMWs thank you very much!

BMW x7s are American built. They drive and ride great. The seats are the best.

nick demis 05-20-2021 06:21 AM

Both brands have deteriorate drastically over the past many years. They were the industry standards for excellence, but no longer.
Now you are only buying the name.

bobdeb 05-20-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1947320)
So maybe you should have blamed the English and India I read it right the first time hmmmmm

I could blame the Brits for that piece of junk MGB I had back when.

And I had an office in Bangalore for years, which leads me to question quality coming from there also.

Kgcetm 05-20-2021 07:05 AM

Always wondered how cars so beautiful could spend so much time in the shop.

Jimmy Lee 05-20-2021 07:29 AM

My friend just bought a new Jaguar F Type convertible and brought it over to show my wife and me. After he left my 75 year-old wife exclaimed "That's the most beautiful car I've ever seen!".

Maybe when you're as old a many of us Villagers are you're not so worried about possible maintenance problems with your car 'cause you don't have to get to work. And not so worried about maintence problems years down the road for the same reason you don't need shingles with a 50-year guarantee.

meridian5850 05-20-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1947281)
Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

I'm on my second Jaguar F-Type, just picked it up in Tampa on Saturday. I traded my 2015 F-Type for it and in the three years I owned it, no mechanical issues at all. I just wanted a newer model with more horsepower.

Oh, and both mine were built in England.

fgaba1949 05-20-2021 07:32 AM

I drive a Porsche Macan and love it//
My wife drives a Lexus 350 RX and loves it as well
Knock on wood ..we have had Zero quality issues and was recently offered more then i paid for the Macan by the dealer as they are having chip supply issues and cant make enough
Would have loved to buy the Porsche true sports car but my knees would not allow a graceful exit..lol

toeser 05-20-2021 07:41 AM

I have always absolutely loved the styling of Jaguars, but I would not touch one with a 10-foot pole. I have better things to do than sit in a repair shop.

toeser 05-20-2021 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by meridian5850 (Post 1947490)
I'm on my second Jaguar F-Type, just picked it up in Tampa on Saturday. I traded my 2015 F-Type for it and in the three years I owned it, no mechanical issues at all. I just wanted a newer model with more horsepower.

Oh, and both mine were built in England.

Gorgeous car.

richinfl 05-20-2021 08:10 AM

Know before you post
 
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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1947281)
Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

Research before you post.

Check the link below to see where Land Rover is currently being produced.

Jaguar Land Rover’s Manufacturing Plant in Slovakia | One Life | Land Rover UK

waynehal55 05-20-2021 08:32 AM

Love my 2021 Mazda CX5....AWD turbo, not thrilled with the dealer in Ocala.

capecoralbill 05-20-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil GTO (Post 1947428)
What many Buick drivers that drive Encore, and Envoy is that they’re made in communist China too. Still I see tones of them running around the Villages.

Chevy Trax their version of the Buick Encore is also made in China.

When I sold these brands and the manufactures announced that they would be manufacturing in China the first thing they said was that no Chinese produced vehicles would enter the U.S. but that that product was for the Asian markets specifically China.

The first thing they did was bring the Encore here for sale then Envoy, then Trax

And of course Cascada convertible dead seller is from Australia meant to sell against BMW, Audi and Mercedes. What a joke

Wrong! My 2018 Buick Encore made in Korea.

bobdeb 05-20-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Bleau (Post 1947502)
Most of you sound like really snobby car folks. Get over it and buy yourself a good used pickup and customize it.

LMAO!

Many of those customized models (pos) wouldn't pass a normal state inspection. Hack jobs.

On my third F150 so...

Two Bills 05-20-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1947503)
Gorgeous car.

Nearly as good as Jags most beautiful car, the E-type!
:bigbow:

Nick B 05-20-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1947281)
Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

The quality of Jags has always been a joke. This is not new. Land Rover went downhill when they became a luxury car

WickedMike 05-20-2021 12:04 PM

Think you have some names mixed up. The Buick Envison is built in China. The Cascada was built in Poland.

bobdeb 05-20-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by richinfl (Post 1947525)
Research before you post.

Check the link below to see where Land Rover is currently being produced.

Jaguar Land Rover’s Manufacturing Plant in Slovakia | One Life | Land Rover UK

And Read previous quotes before you post. This has been covered.

Read before you post.

cologal 05-20-2021 07:36 PM

I own a 2020 E Pace Jaguar SUV I love it and it lives in Colorado!
 
I love my Jaguar!

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2021 08:14 PM

I miss my Jaguar. It was the low-end X-type sports package model. In MGB Racing Stripe green (which I called money green). And a burlwood dash. 6-way automatic heated leather seats with lumbar support. Climate control, automatic windshield wiper sensors, heated side mirrors (they defrosted themselves). A subwoofer in the back. 6-cd changer. Long, sleek, sexy curves. It wasn't my #1 Jaguar dream-car but I got it for $20k still under warranty so I couldn't say no. Lost the transmission on it a year later and traded it in for the piece of crap tin can I still drive today, 12 years later.

If I'm ever super wealthy, I'll buy TWO Jaguars. 1985 XJ Vanden Plas, fully restored, both in racing stripe green, with updated sound system. Need two, so that I always have one to drive while the other is in the shop being fixed. It's the same as owning a Harley.

Bay Kid 05-21-2021 06:49 AM

I had a '16 Jag F-type. Great car. Fast, stylish. Traded for '21 BMW 550i. Faster, rides so much better and a real trunk.

graciegirl 05-21-2021 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1947281)
Once the premier yuppie mobiles, Jaquar and Land Rover sales have plummeted over the latest JD Power quality report. JLR reports a lost of 100,000 sales due to quality.

JLR are now both manufactured in China. The company is now claiming they are making the necessary improvements.

Yes, JLR are now being manufactured in communist China. Enjoy the ride.

On the bright side, good sales up to 30% off for the brands are ongoing...

So much for communism.

G not Q. Jaguar not Jaquar. There is no pee in Lake Sumter. Carry on.

fgaba1949 05-21-2021 07:24 AM

agree

bobdeb 05-21-2021 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1947971)
G not Q. Jaguar not Jaquar. There is no pee in Lake Sumter. Carry on.

Sounded better maybe...

Just remember, there is no 'I' in TEAM, but there is a 'Me'.

mk1126 05-21-2021 02:33 PM

Jags
 
Jaguar made some beautiful cars back in the day! I had a 2001, but similar story - costly to repair and hard to find a decent, qualified mechanic to work on them. Going to Jag Dealership for same would result in having to take a second job on!
M.

Topspinmo 05-25-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 1947404)
Given that a gigantic percentage of what is sold in WalMart is made in Communist China, as was my iPhone and iPad, that’s probably not the problem. Even when Land Rover and Jaguar were made in the UK, Consumer Reports gave them terrible ratings because of reliability. I consider a Land Rover a vehicle for those who want to look rich and don’t care that they are paying a huge amount for mediocrity. This year’s Land Rover rated 49 out of 100, and the Jaguar SUV rated 52. The Land Rover has a Reliability Score of 1 out of 5. (By comparison, the mediocre Jeep Grand Cherokee scores a 67 and has a Reliability score of 3 and the Jeep Compass a 39 with a Reliability score of 2.)

Back in the 50s and 60s, if you lived in Africa and drove off-road most of the time and didn’t mind a gas guzzler, a Land Rover was a sturdy vehicle, easily fixed. Think “Wild Kingdom” days, back when we were young. It hasn’t been worth buying in decades, and it is wildly expensive. Jaguars have always broken down a lot, despite their class and beauty.

agree, except anything in 60’s was easy to repair.

Topspinmo 05-25-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1947971)
G not Q. Jaguar not Jaquar. There is no pee in Lake Sumter. Carry on.


Sounds like Jaguar owner:popcorn::icon_wink:


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