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Bay Kid 05-21-2021 07:00 AM

$3,000 per month
 
Did I hear correct that starting in July the govern will pay $3,000. per month, per child, for the poor?

Carla B 05-21-2021 07:36 AM

No, per yesterday's newspaper, it is $3600. per year or $300.00 per month per child through age 5, then $3000.00 per year or $250. per child ages 6 through 17.

gatorbill1 05-21-2021 07:39 AM

I believe it is actually a tax credit paid in advance instead of next year when taxes are paid.

Stu from NYC 05-21-2021 07:41 AM

Lucky for us the govt has plenty of money so they can just give it away.

stan the man 05-21-2021 07:47 AM

Should be $5000 per/year

valuemkt 05-21-2021 08:27 AM

It is the new economy.. Get paid stimulus money to sit on your butt and watch netflix. When you;re bored watching TV you can get paid for making babies ! Put's new meaning to the value of HARD work.

retiredguy123 05-21-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1948008)
I believe it is actually a tax credit paid in advance instead of next year when taxes are paid.

Is it still called a tax credit even if you don't owe any taxes?

Aces4 05-21-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1948077)
Is it still called a tax credit even if you don't owe any taxes?

They will probably mail them a refund check, lol.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-21-2021 09:17 AM

Always good to start a trouble thread with wrong information and it would be nice to use the word working poor and that includes a lot of people , if it works properly it could cut child hunger and needs by 50%

milling73 05-21-2021 09:26 AM

We all know how well gov subsidy programs work..like every other hand out program- money will go towards frivolous or wasted purchases for the adult and not change the food or well being status of the child - not one iota

jimjamuser 05-21-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1948071)
It is the new economy.. Get paid stimulus money to sit on your butt and watch netflix. When you;re bored watching TV you can get paid for making babies ! Put's new meaning to the value of HARD work.

Pretty good joke! I don't have a problem with government payments for up to 2 children - but 2 ONLY, NOT more. If you have more that is your problem. The government should only encourage 2 children. The US needs to control its population based on "quality of life" calculations. Too much population is a BAD problem. There is probably a population number that maximizes "quality of life". That number needs to be calculated and then tax and immigration policy should be adjusted to achieve that population. The US population density and natural resources are limited. We don't want to end up like India and China!!!!!!!!!!

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-21-2021 10:32 AM

Hmmm sort of like being retired
 
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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1948071)
It is the new economy.. Get paid stimulus money to sit on your butt and watch netflix. When you;re bored watching TV you can get paid for making babies ! Put's new meaning to the value of HARD work.

and getting stimulus money , did you give it all back or give it away , I gave every dollar away , passed out $100 bills to all the waitstaff at places I go and people who I see every day at stores and to Salvation Army this was on top of my normal charity donations , not looking for praise , but for all of us who have been lucky enough to do well no matter how much you give we all could do more

golfing eagles 05-21-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milling73 (Post 1948119)
We all know how well gov subsidy programs work..like every other hand out program- money will go towards frivolous or wasted purchases for the adult and not change the food or well being status of the child - not one iota

Yes, but think of the increased revenue for liquor stores, lotto tickets, beer sales, casinos, crack dealers and prostitutes!

Two Bills 05-21-2021 11:09 AM

Stop Press.

Karex files for bancruptcy
Huge rise in birth rate.

Number 10 GI 05-21-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1948022)
Should be $5000 per/year

If a person can't afford to provide for their children then they shouldn't have any.

Number 10 GI 05-21-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1948135)
Pretty good joke! I don't have a problem with government payments for up to 2 children - but 2 ONLY, NOT more. If you have more that is your problem. The government should only encourage 2 children. The US needs to control its population based on "quality of life" calculations. Too much population is a BAD problem. There is probably a population number that maximizes "quality of life". That number needs to be calculated and then tax and immigration policy should be adjusted to achieve that population. The US population density and natural resources are limited. We don't want to end up like India and China!!!!!!!!!!

U.S. population growth has been falling for a long time now.

U.S. population growth less than 0.5 percent as immigration and birth rates drop, new report says

golfing eagles 05-21-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1948022)
Should be $5000 per/year

should be ZERO

Aces4 05-21-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1948152)
and getting stimulus money , did you give it all back or give it away , I gave every dollar away , passed out $100 bills to all the waitstaff at places I go and people who I see every day at stores and to Salvation Army this was on top of my normal charity donations , not looking for praise , but for all of us who have been lucky enough to do well no matter how much you give we all could do more


I don’t know everyone else’s circumstances at this point but ours had nothing to do with “ luck”. I wish all those “unlucky” people would have had to follow most of us around and performed the work we did to see what constitutes “luck”. Granted, there are families who have had their hard work devastated by illness. They definitely need and deserve a hand up. The rest can reap what they produce from their labors as far as I’m concerned. If a woman bears a child neither she or the child’s father can support, sterilization for both would be an excellent solution. I love children and they deserve far better than being born into a life with incompetent parents.

jimjamuser 05-21-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1948152)
and getting stimulus money , did you give it all back or give it away , I gave every dollar away , passed out $100 bills to all the waitstaff at places I go and people who I see every day at stores and to Salvation Army this was on top of my normal charity donations , not looking for praise , but for all of us who have been lucky enough to do well no matter how much you give we all could do more

I'll give you praise for giving it away. That is a great thing to do. I shop at Salvation Army every chance I get.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-21-2021 04:29 PM

You think you’ve heard it all on this site
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1948176)
Yes, but think of the increased revenue for liquor stores, lotto tickets, beer sales, casinos, crack dealers and prostitutes!

and then you realize you have to lower your expectations even more

Topspinmo 05-21-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1948014)
Lucky for us the govt has plenty of money so they can just give it away.


Yep, reward for having children you can’t afford. Why should someone be rewarded for personal choice. Looks like the singles will get shaft again.

Topspinmo 05-21-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1948071)
It is the new economy.. Get paid stimulus money to sit on your butt and watch netflix. When you;re bored watching TV you can get paid for making babies ! Put's new meaning to the value of HARD work.

It’s called paying for or buying votes.

Topspinmo 05-21-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1948116)
Always good to start a trouble thread with wrong information and it would be nice to use the word working poor and that includes a lot of people , if it works properly it could cut child hunger and needs by 50%

Right......

jimjamuser 05-21-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1948203)

OK thank you for that comment. That is a good thing. But, I take it a couple of steps forward by saying that the maximum "quality of life" for the resources of the US just MIGHT (?) (when calculated) turn out to be as low as a population of 275 million people. We may currently be WAY above the IDEAL population. That IS what I am suggesting. And I realize that I am an outlier with this opinion. Nevertheless, I am sticking with my opinion!

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-21-2021 04:44 PM

So you never made a mistake that cost you
 
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1948273)
I don’t know everyone else’s circumstances at this point but ours had nothing to do with “ luck”. I wish all those “unlucky” people would have had to follow most of us around and performed the work we did to see what constitutes “luck”. Granted, there are families who have had their hard work devastated by illness. They definitely need and deserve a hand up. The rest can reap what they produce from their labors as far as I’m concerned. If a woman bears a child neither she or the child’s father can support, sterilization for both would be an excellent solution. I love children and they deserve far better than being born into a life with incompetent parents.

you never lost a job and then got a better one ,, I know educated people for one reason or another never got ahead , I also grew up in a very tough neighborhood not a lot of success stories even for the ones that tried hard , and to generalize that all the working poor don’t care for there children and want a better life is ridiculous, we also better help these children because with the birth rate declining who will pay into social security Oh I forgot many of us won’t be around so why should we care . I know of someone hadn’t cared enough to get me out of reform school and get me into the Army I would have ended up in the trunk of a car or prison like many of my Boston friend so yes I had a lot of luck

Topspinmo 05-21-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1948135)
Pretty good joke! I don't have a problem with government payments for up to 2 children - but 2 ONLY, NOT more. If you have more that is your problem. The government should only encourage 2 children. The US needs to control its population based on "quality of life" calculations. Too much population is a BAD problem. There is probably a population number that maximizes "quality of life". That number needs to be calculated and then tax and immigration policy should be adjusted to achieve that population. The US population density and natural resources are limited. We don't want to end up like India and China!!!!!!!!!!

China booming, we sold out to them 60 plus years ago and they been buying up American, world, “P”, colleges deans, soon Chinese will be third language behind Spanish and English. CCP not stupid like out career congress members that we vote in again, and again, and again. they don’t give they’re money away without strings attached.


Shouldn’t be reward for there choice of having children. Singles pay higher tax rate, IMO it “P” word. IMo that’s what wrong with tax system to many rewards. Should be flat tax with NO deductions/credits, but that’s not the American way when 1% decides who pays how much with lawyers in hand.

Topspinmo 05-21-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1948308)
you never lost a job and then got a better one ,, I know educated people for one reason or another never got ahead , I also grew up in a very tough neighborhood not a lot of success stories even for the ones that tried hard , and to generalize that all the working poor don’t care for there children and want a better life is ridiculous, we also better help these children because with the birth rate declining who will pay into social security Oh I forgot many of us won’t be around so why should we care . I know of someone hadn’t cared enough to get me out of reform school and get me into the Army I would have ended up in the trunk of a car or prison like many of my Boston friend so yes I had a lot of luck

Not special lots of us had to move on to create better life. Sometimes you have to go where jobs (in you’re case was army which opens up other door’s if you can take orders, some can’t) are or leave momma’s skirt to break out on you’re own. I agree low percentage that’s stuck but they made bad criminal choices.

jimjamuser 05-21-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1948308)
you never lost a job and then got a better one ,, I know educated people for one reason or another never got ahead , I also grew up in a very tough neighborhood not a lot of success stories even for the ones that tried hard , and to generalize that all the working poor don’t care for there children and want a better life is ridiculous, we also better help these children because with the birth rate declining who will pay into social security Oh I forgot many of us won’t be around so why should we care . I know of someone hadn’t cared enough to get me out of reform school and get me into the Army I would have ended up in the trunk of a car or prison like many of my Boston friend so yes I had a lot of luck

A good story!

Topspinmo 05-21-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1948304)
OK thank you for that comment. That is a good thing. But, I take it a couple of steps forward by saying that the maximum "quality of life" for the resources of the US just MIGHT (?) (when calculated) turn out to be as low as a population of 275 million people. We may currently be WAY above the IDEAL population. That IS what I am suggesting. And I realize that I am an outlier with this opinion. Nevertheless, I am sticking with my opinion!

It would be good thing if accurate? Millions not being counted IMO.

Number 10 GI 05-21-2021 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1948304)
OK thank you for that comment. That is a good thing. But, I take it a couple of steps forward by saying that the maximum "quality of life" for the resources of the US just MIGHT (?) (when calculated) turn out to be as low as a population of 275 million people. We may currently be WAY above the IDEAL population. That IS what I am suggesting. And I realize that I am an outlier with this opinion. Nevertheless, I am sticking with my opinion!

A good start towards reaching 275 million would be to deport the estimated 14 million illegals living in the U.S. and stop the flood of new ones illegally entering the country.

Stu from NYC 05-21-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1948321)
A good start towards reaching 275 million would be to deport the estimated 14 million illegals living in the U.S. and stop the flood of new ones illegally entering the country.

Not going to see the flood of new illegals being addressed now but no way do the illegals already here get deported.

Do not understand how we do not control our own borders.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-21-2021 07:02 PM

was so bad that the American army came later
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1948313)
Not special lots of us had to move on to create better life. Sometimes you have to go where jobs (in you’re case was army which opens up other door’s if you can take orders, some can’t) are or leave momma’s skirt to break out on you’re own. I agree low percentage that’s stuck but they made bad criminal choices.

I started out with the first foreign para battalion in Vietnam in 1954 and with the first para regiment in Algeria before I saw American Army so I’m paying for the luck I had with both army’s and the the 30 something years I had as a civilian helping to keep bad governments in power or to put bad rebels into power according to where the political winds of the west were blowing I don’t know why it never made me crazy hmmm or maybe it did lol

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-21-2021 07:11 PM

So I'm seeing a whole lot of posters here who obviously are in favor of a woman's right to a safe, legal abortion, right? Because - if (as you all insist) a woman who can't afford a baby shouldn't have one - well if she gets pregnant anyway, she should be permitted to not have it.

Aces4 05-21-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1948308)
you never lost a job and then got a better one ,, I know educated people for one reason or another never got ahead , I also grew up in a very tough neighborhood not a lot of success stories even for the ones that tried hard , and to generalize that all the working poor don’t care for there children and want a better life is ridiculous, we also better help these children because with the birth rate declining who will pay into social security Oh I forgot many of us won’t be around so why should we care . I know of someone hadn’t cared enough to get me out of reform school and get me into the Army I would have ended up in the trunk of a car or prison like many of my Boston friend so yes I had a lot of luck

You do realize if there weren’t so many handouts to dole out to the the people having children they don’t know how to raise, can’t support and live the on the public tit, there would be more than enough money for your social security benefits. Strong, two parent families go a long way toward keeping their children out of prison.

Aces4 05-21-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1948373)
So I'm seeing a whole lot of posters here who obviously are in favor of a woman's right to a safe, legal abortion, right? Because - if (as you all insist) a woman who can't afford a baby shouldn't have one - well if she gets pregnant anyway, she should be permitted to not have it.

Yeah right, because the decent option of putting your knees together, sitting up and saying no is much worse than killing a baby. To say nothing of all the other options; the pill, IUD’s, condoms, foam, tubal ligation, etc. that are available. Just step up and murder your mistake.:ohdear:

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-21-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1948405)
Yeah right, because the decent option of putting your knees together, sitting up and saying no is much worse than killing a baby. To say nothing of all the other options; the pill, IUD’s, condoms, foam, tubal ligation, etc. that are available. Just step up and murder your mistake.:ohdear:

ALL those options can fail. Tubal ligations are not considered reversible. How about all you males just get vasectomies when you hit puberty, and get them reversed when you can prove you're able, ready, and willing to be responsible for the life YOU create in someone else's womb.

If you're not willing to do that, then you really have no business telling women what they should or should not do with their own bodies.

Aces4 05-21-2021 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1948409)
ALL those options can fail. Tubal ligations are not considered reversible. How about all you males just get vasectomies when you hit puberty, and get them reversed when you can prove you're able, ready, and willing to be responsible for the life YOU create in someone else's womb.

If you're not willing to do that, then you really have no business telling women what they should or should not do with their own bodies.

I couldn’t agree more. However, it’s the woman who ultimately decides to take the risk, have unprotected sex and then proceed to kill the baby when pregnancy occurs. More than one type of birth control can be employed at the same time. NO is fail proof.

tsmall22204 05-22-2021 05:00 AM

Thank you, refreshing to get the straight news. Why do people post what they don't know? Some people always seem to want to start problems.

Lil GTO 05-22-2021 05:17 AM

Plenty of OUR MONEY!


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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1948014)
Lucky for us the govt has plenty of money so they can just give it away.


Girlcopper 05-22-2021 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1948071)
It is the new economy.. Get paid stimulus money to sit on your butt and watch netflix. When you;re bored watching TV you can get paid for making babies ! Put's new meaning to the value of HARD work.

Exactly. What a life nowadays. Sit your fat butt home, collect your undeserved govt checks and as a perk......if you pop out a few kids, youll get more money!! Cant beat that!!


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