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GrumpyOldMan 05-25-2021 12:46 PM

Winged rat (pigeon) or dove?
 
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Two Bills 05-25-2021 01:28 PM

Looks Dovish, and Ratish!

GrumpyOldMan 05-25-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1950553)
Looks Dovish, and Ratish!

Someone on another site identified her as a Morning Dove. Since I don't know, I will accept that - :)

Two Bills 05-25-2021 01:37 PM

Pigeons and Doves, I dislike intensely.
At war all the time with them, as they try to eat my veg and seedlings in our Garden.
More nets out there at the moment, than off a deep sea trawler!

GrumpyOldMan 05-25-2021 02:11 PM

My daughter just informed me Pigeons and doves belong to the same family of birds (Columbidae). Those referred to as Doves tend to be smaller.

Joe V. 05-25-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1950537)

Pigeons nowadays get a bad rap. Pigeons were the unsung heroes of WWl. Look up Cher Ami (awarded the Croix de Guerre with Palm) and President Wilson (the winged one). Very interesting readings.

davem4616 05-25-2021 02:36 PM

It's 'Mourning' Dove...the sound they make is a haunting cooing sound, thus the name

quite common in TV as is the mocking bird

Topspinmo 05-25-2021 04:09 PM

Pigeon’s? Very few pigeon’s around villages. Morning doves are native, pigeons and dove are main food source for all the raptures. Now if we had starling infestation I would somewhat agree. Many places where I came from starlings would blackout the sky at roosting time.

Topspinmo 05-25-2021 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1950591)
It's 'Mourning' Dove...the sound they make is a haunting cooing sound, thus the name

quite common in TV as is the mocking bird

I bet you don’t like screech owls either?:)

Two Bills 05-26-2021 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1950624)
Pigeon’s? Very few pigeon’s around villages. Morning doves are native, pigeons and dove are main food source for all the raptures. Now if we had starling infestation I would somewhat agree. Many places where I came from starlings would blackout the sky at roosting time.

One of the great sights of nature, but carry an umbrella.
Starlings eat bugs, so they are on my Christmas Card list!:icon_wink:

La lamy 05-26-2021 06:13 AM

Those red eyes!!! Maybe hungover dove? :icon_wink:

Baldawgdad 05-26-2021 06:20 AM

It’s a Mourning Dove.

jakers 05-26-2021 06:34 AM

Actually, it is Mourning Dove, because of its sad sounding coo

bobdeb 05-26-2021 08:15 AM

A beautiful and sweet mourning dove. I love hearing their call.

jimjamuser 05-26-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1950537)

Dove....my love. In survival school, you learn that ALL birds are edible!

jimjamuser 05-26-2021 08:41 AM

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Could you PLEASE bring back the picture of the dog? I REALLY thought the dog was cute! And "freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose"!

GrumpyOldMan 05-26-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1950936)
Could you PLEASE bring back the picture of the dog? I REALLY thought the dog was cute! And "freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose"!

Booby McG - love it - "I's feelin' near as faded as my jeans"

Your wish is my command... Avatar reverted.

maggie1 05-26-2021 10:01 AM

It's a Mourning Dove.

brfree1411@aol.com 05-26-2021 11:20 AM

Pigeon

Topspinmo 05-26-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1950771)
One of the great sights of nature, but carry an umbrella.
Starlings eat bugs, so they are on my Christmas Card list!:icon_wink:


Invasive species over here, shot on site if want protect woodpeckers and purple martins. Now shall we discuss the English sparrow? :icon_wink::1rotfl:

Decadeofdave 05-26-2021 11:29 AM

Nesting in palm trees is common, doves stay in pairs and have 2 eggs to hatch approx. 3 times per year.
Just had a pair of them in our tree in february.

Two Bills 05-26-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1950996)
Invasive species over here, shot on site if want protect woodpeckers and purple martins. Now shall we discuss the English sparrow? :icon_wink::1rotfl:

English Sparrow is declining fast, and Starling numbers are nothing like years ago.
Smaller songbirds are nowhere near the numbers of the past.
Progress has its costs!:ohdear:

Topspinmo 05-26-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1951000)
English Sparrow is declining fast, and Starling numbers are nothing like years ago.
Smaller songbirds are nowhere near the numbers of the past.
Progress has its costs!:ohdear:

Not where I came from the flying rats over here are on increase, not too many is this area, but travel north and see the bloom. 4 thing that causes decline of native birds are, invasive starling’s, e. Sparrow, house cats, and removal of habit. :welcome:

GrumpyOldMan 05-26-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1951002)
Not where I came from the flying rats over here are on increase, not too many is this area, but travel north and see the bloom. 4 thing that causes decline of native birds are, invasive starling’s, e. Sparrow, house cats, and removal of habit. :welcome:

It is estimated that domesticated cats kill 2.5 billion birds every year.

I expect the real invasive species that harm nature the most are people...

"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

-- The Matrix, Agent Smith.

Topspinmo 05-26-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1951021)
It is estimated that domesticated cats kill 2.5 billion birds every year.

I expect the real invasive species that harm nature the most are people...

"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

-- The Matrix, Agent Smith.

Tend to agree except for the matrix.

Topspinmo 05-26-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1951000)
English Sparrow is declining fast, and Starling numbers are nothing like years ago.
Smaller songbirds are nowhere near the numbers of the past.
Progress has its costs!:ohdear:


Maybe in jolly old England, but not in North America.

jimjamuser 05-26-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1950537)

Love that dog - he or she IS a beauty - such character in the face!

jimjamuser 05-26-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1950624)
Pigeon’s? Very few pigeon’s around villages. Morning doves are native, pigeons and dove are main food source for all the raptures. Now if we had starling infestation I would somewhat agree. Many places where I came from starlings would blackout the sky at roosting time.

I hate starlings - they are NOT native to the US. Some clown in Colonial days brought over 6 mating pairs. They devastated the native birds of the Midwest - like bluebirds. Starlings are Illegal bird aliens!

jimjamuser 05-26-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1950771)
One of the great sights of nature, but carry an umbrella.
Starlings eat bugs, so they are on my Christmas Card list!:icon_wink:

They also eat the eggs of robins, bluebirds, and ALL other more beautiful bird species.

jimjamuser 05-26-2021 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1950942)
Booby McG - love it - "I's feelin' near as faded as my jeans"

Your wish is my command... Avatar reverted.

Janis Joplin - she WAS and IS today - so underrated. One of my all-time favorites. And thank you / thank for the dog! What a beauty!

BekaJayne 06-04-2021 06:33 AM

I have had a Mourning Dove nest in my fern plant by my front door 2 yrs in a row. I never knew the hatching of their eggs were a shared task until this. This season, only one egg hatched. Somehow one was cracked. :( I put up signs to walk with caution as there is a nest. We are still able to go in & out our front door (slowly) w/o egg-sitting being disrupted. I love to watch the process. God's beauty.

I'm Popeye! 06-04-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1950591)
It's 'Mourning' Dove...the sound they make is a haunting cooing sound, thus the name

quite common in TV as is the mocking bird

Not a Morning Dove, Morning Doves have very dark eyes.
This one seems to be mixed between Dove and a Clinker.
Clinkers are "street pigeons" with red eyes.


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